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Portella
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Posted - 09 Feb 2009 :  22:45:10  Show Profile  Visit Portella's Homepage Send Portella a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Anyone running pathfinder rpg beta with the realms setting?

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 09 Feb 2009 :  22:49:09  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not yet, but there are plans to. Oh my, the plans. Beautiful, glorious plans!!

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 09 Feb 2009 :  22:52:45  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I adapted some of the alpha/beta into my campaign...mainly the 0-lvl spells and the healing/turning thingy...the cleric just forgets about that all the bleeding time

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Portella
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Posted - 09 Feb 2009 :  23:06:13  Show Profile  Visit Portella's Homepage Send Portella a Private Message  Reply with Quote
what really liked about it is that all my 1000s of pounds worth of book can be reused. but besides that i really liked what they have done with the sorcerer with the idea of using the bloodlines... that really made sense as the class is someone with a strange bloodline that gives them special abilities. I loved it made me want to start a sorcerer. They increased the HP dice for some classes (mage now 1d6) skill are lot simpler. I really giving the thought about it. all in all I really up for playing FR again using pathfinder. (i havent played since mid 3ed)

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Portella
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Posted - 09 Feb 2009 :  23:08:56  Show Profile  Visit Portella's Homepage Send Portella a Private Message  Reply with Quote
my problem is finding a group, I live near reading in the united kingdom. in fact i crying because my main problem since i left brasil was finding a group. in the uk it is such very hard to get groups outside of major cities. all i see is game workshops. those give me the shivers.

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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 09 Feb 2009 :  23:12:04  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm a couple hundred kilometers away from ya...plus my campaign is on hiatus as I am actually playing a game again, after almost 8 years DMing straigh

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Portella
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Posted - 09 Feb 2009 :  23:46:22  Show Profile  Visit Portella's Homepage Send Portella a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So jealous I havent played for ages, my last group was a disaster, I ended up killing the most moronically played wizard, that guy deserved to die.

the guy was a joker type that liked to do anything he liked talking up to authority when in truth they neede their help casting spells in the wrong places, being a pain really everyone privitly would complain about him... so in a indirect way i had to deliver consequences of his actions, no more of the nice dm. just as point i was not out and about to kill his pc, just that i would not change or make tings easier if for fault of his own he caused some problem or death to himself.

Here is the sort story of his death:

abandoned gnome city near silvermoon, ancient and forgotten realm of garvensliterstone, the PC found out of its existence from old scriptures held in the libraries in silvermoon after finding some old stone tables in ascore the ages old dwarven city in the borders of anauroch. I will not go into to much about it, but the PC were on race against time to reach the city where it was told part of the archonkey was said to be hidden. (archonkey was an ancient artifact (by name not a true artifact) used on the binding of old demon lord which was said once came close to annexing toril as another layer of the abyss). any how...

this wizard decided to go up a tower by himself using a gnome elevator (some contraption you know gnomes) where a recurring villain was using his spells and wands against the party below. little did he know (the pc) the caster had a wand of summoning, he conjured up 4 lesser tiny earth elemental's so when the pc arrived at the top he had to deal with a angry wizard and 4 elemental's (he was not meant to go there the elevator could carry 3 people. so it rolled like this the earth elemental's killed him but they disappeared quickly as the spell didnt last long, at this time the other PC were finishing things up below they decided to join the fray above (give the wizard pc credit he did keep the villain occupied even if it was for 4 rounds for summoning the elementals (four rounds to go up you see) the villain didnt know how many were coming up) as they were going up the elevator they saw a corpse falling from the tower (they couldnot identify it) arriving at the top they saw the PC character looking at the window as if he had just thrown the corpse outside the other pc asked how he was etc, but had just used a small illusion spell the pc after some interogation saw through his disquise but by that time the wizard (still under a fly spell effect) flew out of the tower and out of the complex with the key!.

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Portella
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  00:39:49  Show Profile  Visit Portella's Homepage Send Portella a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
flew out of the tower and out of the complex with the key!.



not the entire key in fact it was a imitation designed to misdirect people looking for the item.

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Uzzy
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  01:46:10  Show Profile  Visit Uzzy's Homepage Send Uzzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've been working on converting some of the Forgotten Realms PrC's to Pathfinder rules. Pretty simple, if time consuming. I've not yet had the pleasure of running the Realms in the PFRPG yet, but I'm sure I will at some point.

Edited by - Uzzy on 10 Feb 2009 01:46:30
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  01:53:36  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-You can find a bunch of Forgotten Realms stuff converted to Pathfinder HERE.

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Brynweir
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  01:54:14  Show Profile Send Brynweir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just a thought for those of you who can't find local groups - try playing online. If it weren't for AIM I'd never get to play... well, I don't right now, but that's besides the point
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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  04:24:27  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dagnirion

-You can find a bunch of Forgotten Realms stuff converted to Pathfinder HERE.



Awwww, thanks Dag!

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Wrigs13
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  09:14:30  Show Profile  Visit Wrigs13's Homepage Send Wrigs13 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Due to licencing issue will there ever be official pathfinder/realms material? I doubt it is possible. How much conversion is actually required to place pathfinder characters in a D&D 3.5 FR setting?

Do not try to understand the 4th edition. Thats impossible. Instead...only try to realise the truth. There is no 4th edition.
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Portella
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  09:53:28  Show Profile  Visit Portella's Homepage Send Portella a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dagnirion

-You can find a bunch of Forgotten Realms stuff converted to Pathfinder HERE.


Thank you,

there wont any official pathfinder conversion or source book released by paizo that infringe hasbro IP. FR stays hasbro.

however nothing stop us from converting what ever to PFRPG.

I really not sure what is reguired to convert.

I would go play my owm campaign so i would not be require to convert anything as it all would be created from pf rpg rules i would just have the setting.

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Wrigs13
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  10:20:42  Show Profile  Visit Wrigs13's Homepage Send Wrigs13 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was looking at the Pathfinder Beta and I liked the base classes but if I just slip them into a standard 3.5 Realms setting will they be significantly overpowered? On the piazo site there is some discussion on the disparity in powers but does anyone actually know how bad it is? Is it as simple as moving CR's up by one or adding an extra ECL encounter per adventure?

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Portella
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  10:38:08  Show Profile  Visit Portella's Homepage Send Portella a Private Message  Reply with Quote
the beta classes as far as i know would be stronger then 3.5 classes. but that is what i got off reading their forums

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Daviot
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  10:51:58  Show Profile  Visit Daviot's Homepage Send Daviot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've been using most of the Pathfinder Beta rules in my just-finished and soon-to-start games. In my experience, a Pathfinder version one of the 11 PHB base classes matches up well against some of the non-PHB 3.5 base classes (knight, warlock, etc.). I don't use everything from the beta, but it's definitely worth a look for DM's and players who run 3.0 or 3.5.

One usually has far more to fear from the soft-spoken wizard with a blade and well-worn boots than from the boisterous one in the ivory tower.
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Portella
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  11:05:50  Show Profile  Visit Portella's Homepage Send Portella a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have mostly played 2ed. in fact all my experience has been using 2ed, besides the last 1 year DMing a 3.5 group. having read the pathfinder rules changes i have found that they are defiantly going to right direction. it is like the A of dnd. i dont think i will be going into 4ed right away i have so many source books and things, plus i dont feel right with 4ed yet. i havent had enough of 3.5 yet. if anyone is running a campaign soon let me know i would not mind playing.

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Sian
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  11:39:12  Show Profile  Visit Sian's Homepage Send Sian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pathfinder classes is stronger than Core ... but its from the point of view that the base classes which was added beyond core (in complete books along others) was stronger, and that Prestige classes was a 'nobrainer' ... with the stronger Pathfinder classes it can actually be a bad thing to do Prestige classes if you don't think hard on if you want it or not

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Portella
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  11:42:04  Show Profile  Visit Portella's Homepage Send Portella a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I get the feeling that the prestige classes are more sidelined in pathfinder and that the base classes are more in focus.

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Portella
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  11:58:19  Show Profile  Visit Portella's Homepage Send Portella a Private Message  Reply with Quote
but as it seems we are moving away from the subject a bit, the Realms would run fine in pathfinder (me thinks) sure npcs would need converting monsters (only source book monters) would require converting too but for careful game master that would not be too much of a problem. I would like to play before the spell plaque even ignore the spell plague all together or for the more conservative gm make an adventure path that would stop the assassination mystra 2.0 which has hardly been on power. but like or not something like that would still cause some major changes in the realms.

One thing that i felt weird and still feel strange about it is the coming back of one of the enclaves of netheril. now new empire of netheril...

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Portella
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  12:06:26  Show Profile  Visit Portella's Homepage Send Portella a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sian love your signature it is "hysterical" with all respect meant.

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Asgetrion
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  12:22:46  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Portella

Anyone running pathfinder rpg beta with the realms setting?



I am. My campaign is set in Thunderstone, Cormyr. There are a few issues with the rules (mainly with the "gap" in balance between the spellcasters and the "martial" PCs), but I think the final rules will deal most of that stuff.

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Portella
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  12:25:59  Show Profile  Visit Portella's Homepage Send Portella a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anything else you have found ? Did you have to converted anything? if so what?

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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  13:37:00  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am working on posting a few more characters this Sunday on the WotC boards.

The conversion is actually pretty simple. As for the 'power level' of the Paizo classes, it's not that huge of a bump really, IMO. They balanced out a few of the classes to look more balanced at higher levels (the fighter makes me drool again). You may need to bump encounters up a level, but for the most part it still works the same. The biggest difference is changing the feat progress from every third level to every other level, so you might just want to toss an extra feat to the baddies to even things out.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Marc
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  13:40:37  Show Profile Send Marc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll decide in when it comes out

so far, the changes are good, but minor imo

it needs something like 4e powers, but less restrictive, maybe a feat/spell trees system, but flexible

it will never happen


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Ashe Ravenheart
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  13:47:27  Show Profile Send Ashe Ravenheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Maruluthu Mistrivvin

I'll decide in when it comes out

so far, the changes are good, but minor imo

it needs something like 4e powers, but less restrictive, maybe a feat/spell trees system, but flexible

it will never happen





I disagree. Looking at the at-will use of Orisons and Cantrips for casters, and the powers that Clerics, Sorcerers and Wizards get, I think they do have that flexible style akin to the 4E powers. And they also expanded on some of the tree feats (Stunning Fist, Power Attack, Dodge, etc.) as well.

I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.

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Portella
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  14:30:17  Show Profile  Visit Portella's Homepage Send Portella a Private Message  Reply with Quote
they did change the cantrips and orisons so they are not game breaking... it looks quite cool. and makes a lot of sense played in FR

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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  16:15:27  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wrigs13

Due to licencing issue will there ever be official pathfinder/realms material? I doubt it is possible.


-Only if WotC and Paizo sit down, and WotC grants Paizo the Forgotten Realms license. Which, as you said, is doubtful, given Paizo's "challenge for control" with WotC.

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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  20:35:49  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Portella

Anyone running pathfinder rpg beta with the realms setting?

I have two campaigns going, and they both use PRPG rules. If you want a kickass Excel character sheet, check this out:

http://chargen.motime.com/

My two gaming groups now swear by it! :)
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Nerfed2Hell
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 :  22:56:56  Show Profile  Visit Nerfed2Hell's Homepage Send Nerfed2Hell a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I tried it... and while there are some good changes in both the alpha and beta, there are things I don't like. I've been putting together my own 3.5e/Pathfinder hybrid (so, I guess a D&D 3.62 edition) combing changes I like and updating older material (such as races, classes, skills, and feats) with all the regular "extra" material from official sourcebooks and third party sources, too.

A big flop for me is CMB and the way skills are handled, and a few of the core classes seem a little over-powered and got some tweaking (or outright replaced with something entirely different from core 3.5 or Pathfinder). Love the unlimited cantrips/orisons, love the redefined Channel Energy compared to the older Turn/Rebuke Undead ability, and ditched the whole spontaneous casting of healing spells because of it... now clerics can spontaneously cast their domain spells.

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