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darkcrow
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 08 Feb 2009 : 00:45:19
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I'm currently reading Realms of Mystery. I finished A Walk in the Snow by David Gross. I'm a little confused. I like the fact the these novels follow the rules of D+D. It makes all the characters have Limits. Even Elminster has limits. He may came back to life after many deaths but he does die.
Anyway at the end of the story, the murder of the wizard is solved. The bad guy takes the wizards Familiar ( cat) and drowns it and in doing so killing the wizard. You can't kill a magic user by killing his or her Familiar, can you?
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Aulduron
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 08 Feb 2009 : 01:34:33
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| IIRC, in 1E you gained your familiars hit points, and if it died, you permanatly lost double their HP. So, if you were very low on HP, losing your familiar might kill you. |
"Those with talent become wizards, Those without talent spend their lives praying for it"
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darkcrow
Learned Scribe
USA
269 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2009 : 02:03:52
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| I understand that but in this story it don't make sense because the wizard should of been at full health. |
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Afetbinttuzani
Senior Scribe
Canada
434 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2009 : 02:09:44
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You can't kill a magic user by killing his or her Familiar, can you?
Yes. In 2E, familiars acquired using the 1st level "find familiar" wizard spell were linked to their master's life force. The 2E PHB states:
"If the familiar dies, the wizard must successfully roll an immediate sytem shock check or die. Even if he survives this check, the wizard loses 1 point from his Constitution when the familiar dies." (p.134 TSR: 1989)
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darkcrow
Learned Scribe
USA
269 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2009 : 02:21:34
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| Thanks Afetbinttuzani for clearing that up. |
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ranger_of_the_unicorn_run
Learned Scribe
USA
292 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2009 : 02:58:56
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| Thst seems like it would make it a very bad idea to take a familiar, unless there were some amazing benefits. I mean, it's not like they're even useful in combat in 3e. |
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darkcrow
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 08 Feb 2009 : 04:05:03
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| You know, I started playing in 3E. Maybe that's why I didn't know about the sudden death upon the death of you familiar clause. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 08 Feb 2009 : 04:57:54
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Originally posted by ranger_of_the_unicorn_run
Thst seems like it would make it a very bad idea to take a familiar, unless there were some amazing benefits. I mean, it's not like they're even useful in combat in 3e.
I grew up in 2E, and I always thought that the vulnerability of familiars outweighed their benefits. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 08 Feb 2009 : 05:25:10
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by ranger_of_the_unicorn_run
Thst seems like it would make it a very bad idea to take a familiar, unless there were some amazing benefits. I mean, it's not like they're even useful in combat in 3e.
I grew up in 2E, and I always thought that the vulnerability of familiars outweighed their benefits.
-Right. Thats why I never use them.
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Aulduron
Learned Scribe
USA
343 Posts |
Posted - 08 Feb 2009 : 06:07:33
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| I never used one, for the same reason. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 09 Feb 2009 : 01:52:08
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Originally posted by darkcrow
I'm currently reading Realms of Mystery. I finished A Walk in the Snow by David Gross. I'm a little confused. I like the fact the these novels follow the rules of D+D. It makes all the characters have Limits. Even Elminster has limits. He may came back to life after many deaths but he does die.
Anyway at the end of the story, the murder of the wizard is solved. The bad guy takes the wizards Familiar ( cat) and drowns it and in doing so killing the wizard. You can't kill a magic user by killing his or her Familiar, can you?
I don't know, but I hate anyone who would drown a cat. |
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darkcrow
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 10 Feb 2009 : 02:00:18
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| lol, I don't think you're so pose to like the guy. |
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Realms of Mystery.......... Spoilers
