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ErskineF
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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  00:26:43  Show Profile  Visit ErskineF's Homepage Send ErskineF a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GoCeraf

4 + 3 = 4...

They might get confused.


Er, ummmmm... it's New Math?




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GoCeraf
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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  00:48:42  Show Profile  Visit GoCeraf's Homepage Send GoCeraf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ErskineF

quote:
Originally posted by GoCeraf

4 + 3 = 4...

They might get confused.


Er, ummmmm... it's New Math?







So you have 13 and you take away 7 and that leaves 5!

...

Well... six, actually.

The idea is the important thing.

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ErskineF
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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  00:56:06  Show Profile  Visit ErskineF's Homepage Send ErskineF a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GoCeraf

So you have 13 and you take away 7 and that leaves 5!


That's true for very large values of 7.




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Ghost King
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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  01:03:34  Show Profile  Visit Ghost King's Homepage Send Ghost King a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
Assuming you said their names or one of their titles correctly. I could pray to Kiaransalee but what if the consonants in her name were actually voiced, and the folks in the Realms pray to Giaranzalee. A real word example is the difference between Xocolatl and chocolate.

Deities will only notice you if you say their names or their titles correctly.



Tongue spell specifically says that you understand what people are saying and mean. Granted, you wouldn't know a deity's exact title but I could see the deity just the same ignoring you even if you did know the correct way to address them. That is what my reasoning would be, as it was already noted briefly, all the Faerun gods behave similar to Greek/Roman/Egyptian/etc gods that are very human-like in their strength and weaknesses. If for some strange reason you happen to become of an interest to a deity, then it might be a boon and/or a curse just like in Greek mythology.

Personally, if it is going to be like that I would just rather not pray or if I did for some strange reason pray to one of them, hope I was ignored. After all, most are just glorified mortals with deific powers and happen to live like immortals, but can be slain, though admitably harder.

As for Faerunian's being wiped out by a disease I think considering they have wierd creatures trafficing in and out with summon spells and portals from other planes they would probably possess the greatest resilience to disease then us. It wouldn't be the War of the Worlds for them and considering if Ed's stories are true of El visiting our world, we probably wouldn't experience any problems going there, because I doubt El sterilizes himself before he goes planar-hoping.

quote:
How would you identify a wizard, if there weren't any wandering around in robes? What if you were in a small town with no wizards, or at least none friendly? What if you popped up in Thay or Zhentil Keep?

And honestly, what if writing down math didn't do it, or there weren't any Deneirans handy? I know I'm not going to be impressed if someone walks up to me and starts doing math, even if it's something I don't know like vector calculus, and I'm certainly not going to interpret it as an attempt to track down someone else...


Totally agree with Wooly's point here. Math while impressive would only be truly significant to an intellectual, and the likelihood of running across an educated person in the Realms is slim at best. Plus remember this isn't a world of science in our sense. Very few people even bother exploring out avenues outside of magic that are smart enough to explore science in Faerun. I think Lantan is the only one that knowingly pursues technology over magic.

Now as I said people know of clocks, so if you have a hand watch with hands that mark the time, then you'd probably catch someone's fascination...again only if you could find a way to communicate first though. And as pointed out is not an easy task.

Anyways, figured I'd point that out and clarify a few points from earlier.

Edited by - Ghost King on 23 Jan 2009 01:05:02
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GoCeraf
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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  01:18:36  Show Profile  Visit GoCeraf's Homepage Send GoCeraf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ErskineF


That's true for very large values of 7.







An effective argument, this does not make!

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Kyrene
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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  09:57:13  Show Profile  Visit Kyrene's Homepage Send Kyrene a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd leave a quick note to my wife and I'd be off. Even if I get killed by the very next goblin or kobold that I meet, at least I would have seen it—or heard it or felt it kill me. I'm not afraid of death or hardship, so I would love the adventure of the unknown. A portal back, at some future point would just be gravy.

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Wenin
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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  10:43:42  Show Profile Send Wenin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but regarding the language barrier issue.... has there ever been mentioned such an issue when Greenwood and Elminister spoke of the Realms? Has there ever been an issue with Greenwood speaking with any of those who have found their way into his home? I don't recall any issue.


As for one of us killing off the people of Shadowdale with the common cold.... I would think that the people's health system is more hearty than our own. Imagine all the diseases that are going around that Devils and Demons from the lower planes are introducing to the world, let alone humanoids. I would think we would have more to fear than than they. =)

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ranger_of_the_unicorn_run
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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  12:48:37  Show Profile Send ranger_of_the_unicorn_run a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wenin

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but regarding the language barrier issue.... has there ever been mentioned such an issue when Greenwood and Elminister spoke of the Realms? Has there ever been an issue with Greenwood speaking with any of those who have found their way into his home? I don't recall any issue.


It probably wouldn't be an issue due to the tongues spell. It's vaguely possible that we share one or more languages with Faerunians, but that would be an extreme coincidence.
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Markustay
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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  15:36:30  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If my kids were fully grown - lets say in another 15 or so years, and I'm too old to really care about how much time I had left, and I could see a city in the distance, or at least a town, then I might... MIGHT... consider it.

I still don't think I'd last a day, but at that point I wouldn't care as much... and there's always the possibility of me getting my hands on a longevity potion.

I still think an Orc would go from mere 'canon fodder' to something out of your worst nightmares, but whatever, it would be nice to visit a world that hasn't experienced the vilest of all evil organizations - corporations.

Although Thaymart comes close...

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Alisttair
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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  16:11:32  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

If my kids were fully grown - lets say in another 15 or so years, and I'm too old to really care about how much time I had left, and I could see a city in the distance, or at least a town, then I might... MIGHT... consider it.

I still don't think I'd last a day, but at that point I wouldn't care as much... and there's always the possibility of me getting my hands on a longevity potion.

I still think an Orc would go from mere 'canon fodder' to something out of your worst nightmares, but whatever, it would be nice to visit a world that hasn't experienced the vilest of all evil organizations - corporations.

Although Thaymart comes close...



You might be okay if its a Many-Arrows Orc

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 23 Jan 2009 :  23:42:02  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Nerfed2Hell

Communication? Easy, find a wizard who can cast the Tongues spell and offer to trade knowledge for an amulet or ring that has with permanent Tongues ability.
Money? Once I can communicate freely, I can get any old job until I find a way to make a profit from my 21st century earth knowledge.


Out of curiosity, how do you propose to find this wizard, impress him with your knowledge, negotiate with him, and then seal the deal -- all while being unable to communicate with him?



I plan on gifting with the hide of a freshly skinned Giant Space Hamster to win his curiosity enough to want to communicate with me.

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 24 Jan 2009 :  00:01:50  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And if I happened to be sitting on the couch with my wife when this portal appeared and saw Storms Cottage, I would grab her and be through that portal in an eyeblink. She is plenty hot enough to get Storms attention and help for the both of us

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yshyi
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Posted - 24 Jan 2009 :  03:58:14  Show Profile  Visit yshyi's Homepage Send yshyi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aye! Id leave in in instant. My heart longs to wander the forrests of Cormyr, to wander the roads, and gaze upon Sylune and her tears. If im attacked by brigands or any manner of creature, so be it, Id either slay them or die with a smile on my face.

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Thalos_Milathriel
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Posted - 24 Jan 2009 :  04:21:33  Show Profile  Visit Thalos_Milathriel's Homepage Send Thalos_Milathriel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If my wife was coming with me then no, because I'd worry for her safety and who would take care of our daughter and two adorable Corgis? If it was me solo... hmmm... I've always wanted to hook up with an elf... or two.

Put me down as UNDECIDED. Offically that is.
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bahadre
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Turkey
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Posted - 24 Jan 2009 :  05:05:53  Show Profile  Visit bahadre's Homepage Send bahadre a Private Message  Reply with Quote
would go for sure, although i dont know my real life stats

something like
STR:11
DEX:10
CON:9 (smoker)
INT:12
WIS:11
CHA:12
i guess so cant decide what class i would be (prolly an average priest)

but i wouldnt wanna go to anytime in 4th ed.

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danbuter
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Posted - 24 Jan 2009 :  15:09:20  Show Profile  Visit danbuter's Homepage Send danbuter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd go, but with my luck, I'd come out in Menzoberranzen.

Nothing beats the gray box!
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Green Giant
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Posted - 25 Jan 2009 :  03:17:36  Show Profile Send Green Giant a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm not sure about the problems with communication. Didn't the boxed sets mention that characters from other worlds automatically spoke FR's version of common when they arrived and any other languages they spoke changed to the Realm's versions? Or was that changed in 3e?

I still wouldn't go though.
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sneakypetev
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Posted - 25 Jan 2009 :  13:39:52  Show Profile  Visit sneakypetev's Homepage Send sneakypetev a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am now 44 and I am to attached to my creature comforts to go. But 20-25 years ago I would not have hesitated.

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Matt James
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Posted - 25 Jan 2009 :  22:36:21  Show Profile Send Matt James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would definitely go.
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Ifthir
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Posted - 26 Jan 2009 :  03:46:06  Show Profile  Visit Ifthir's Homepage Send Ifthir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Another thread - at WotC - got me thinking about this.

If a portal opened-up in front of you, and you could just step through into the Realms... would you?

Orcs, Drow, Beholders, Evil Wizards, Dragons, liches... even Dragon-liches!

Would you leave your nice, comfortable, cozy modern life behind just to see it?

I realize being able to get back is a big determining factor here, so I would also add-in that you wouldn't be able to, or at least you weren't sure if you could. You'd just step through, with NO gaurantees.

No money, no job, in the middle of nowhere (or even inside a city like Waterdeep)... how much 'fun' would an adventure be then?

Everyone here likes to talk about how much we love the Realms, but do we love it enough to actually want to live there?



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khorne
Master of Realmslore

Finland
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Posted - 26 Jan 2009 :  09:47:16  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage Send khorne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
With a one-way ticket? No. Otherwise, I would only go it it dumped me in a relatively safe place (like waterdeep or silverymoon), since I'm a massive coward and about as much use in a fight as a sandwich.

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Fingal
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Posted - 27 Jan 2009 :  11:02:32  Show Profile Send Fingal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I think Kiaransalyn is the ONLY person being honest here.

I think the first time you saw an Orc coming at you you'd crap yourself... and that's just an Orc! Can you imagine living in a world with reptiles the size of buildings? With monsters and Mages being able to shoot 'beams' and destroy stuff instantly and completely?



Pffft..I'm from Glasgow mate; If you've ever been down Sauchiehall street on a saturday night you'd know it makes even the underdark look like an elf's garden party..

Seriously, though, I wouldn't mind a fortnight's holiday somewhere pleaseant in Tethyr but, first things first, I wouldn't mind sampling the wares of each tavern listed in 'Volo's guide to Waterdeep.' After that i'm taking the bottle of Glenmorangie i brought with me and finding some partying Dwarves.


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Fingal
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Posted - 27 Jan 2009 :  11:03:15  Show Profile Send Fingal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oops - Double post! Nothing to see here!


Edited by - Fingal on 27 Jan 2009 11:06:09
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Kiaransalyn
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Posted - 27 Jan 2009 :  11:58:51  Show Profile Send Kiaransalyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by danbuter

I'd go, but with my luck, I'd come out in Menzoberranzen.



Coming out in Menzoberranzan. Now that is an amusing mental picture.

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RyldVrinn
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USA
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Posted - 02 Feb 2009 :  09:40:18  Show Profile  Visit RyldVrinn's Homepage Send RyldVrinn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Me personally, I've memorized enough info about dragons, drow, monsters, demons, and devils to qualify as a sage anyday. And I know enough of survival skills (I think) to make it to civilization without too much of a problem. Ah, but the question is would I go, no matter what?
Heck yeah. I'll become a mage, whatever it takes, and gate my butt back home two decades (or so, give or take) from now, after I've had a chance to run around in the Realms I love so dearly. And I'll leave that note on El's door, asking if his friend Ed of the Greenwood is well; just to see his reaction! (Methinks the Sage of Shadowdale would be impressed with my cheek enough to not get *too* angry...)

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Ardashir
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Posted - 03 Feb 2009 :  20:32:12  Show Profile  Visit Ardashir's Homepage Send Ardashir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

On a one-way ticket? Nope. As Kia pointed out, there are the issues of not necessarily being able to speak the language and having no means of support. Also, I've no desire to leave my wife, my friends, my home, my car, my books, and the internet behind. I am too fond of my creature comforts to want to trade them away.

Now, with the option of returning, I'd be more interested. If I could return, and I didn't have to worry about language or supporting myself, then yeah, I'd take a vacation there. Assuming it was to pre-Sellplague times, of course.



I agree with Wooly! I'd love to visit Eilistraee's Promenade for one place, and it might almost be worth my life to have even an hour to talk with an elder dragon or lich. Just imagine what the insights of a 1000-year-old mind could be like!
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skychrome
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Posted - 29 Mar 2009 :  23:47:29  Show Profile  Visit skychrome's Homepage Send skychrome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Enter without being in "god-mode" or having Epic-Level?

I think that would be a very short "pleasure".
Apart from the possible language barrier... what is one good for? No guarantee for being able to learn magic, no clue how to defeat a kobold cause I only know how to fight with a spoon... staring all over as a commoner? I think that really sucks...

After reading several FR novels I started wondering, how much it sucks to be a commoner in the Realms. R.A. Salvatore is especially good in whiping out commoner's existences and/or families by randomly marauding Ogres, orks etc. Commoners who instead of seeing the wonders of Faerun work all day long on the fields to survive.
Also a nice "cold shower" for every portal junper is reading The Yellow Silk. Man, what a miserable place for everyone but a true hero.

So unless there comes a short intro on with what skills and abilities I arrive in the Realms along with the portal... no way. Would be a shame to see only the victim's side of the Realm, one loves so much.

If I had a choice, then I'd enter preferably as a mage with speciality on teleport and contingency spell, as not even an Epic level guarantees stying alive on supposedly harmless travels from let's say Cormyr to Sembia.

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coach
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Posted - 03 Apr 2009 :  05:41:40  Show Profile Send coach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Put me in Waterdeep and I would teach them sports :)

start with soccer/futbol, then try to add american football and baseball

seriously, most here could catch on as a herald/spy once the language barrier was solved

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bishopssix
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Posted - 03 Apr 2009 :  05:42:12  Show Profile  Visit bishopssix's Homepage Send bishopssix a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would, no matter what it put me in, even if I was a halfling.

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swifty
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Posted - 05 Apr 2009 :  14:43:09  Show Profile  Visit swifty's Homepage Send swifty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
with the language barrier thing.would common be english.because im sure if a french person reads the realms they regard common as french.although i cant imagine a french dwarf somehow.apart from their president.

go back to sleep america.everything is under control.heres american gladiators.watch this.shuttup. BILL HICKS.
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