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createvmind
Senior Scribe
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 Posted - 27 Oct 2009 : 16:12:37
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Hello,
ED where would one find the most extensive collection of bestiaries, underdark, planar, aquatic etc cetera....who is the most famous author of such compendiums?
Are there any such magical compendiums that actually give the reader knowledge of creatures upon request, possibly at a cost of severe headaches, temporary mental damage for having ones brain crammed suddenly with information? I plan to make such tomes but wonder if any already existed, possibly in temples to Sarvas or Candlekeep?
Might such bestaries actually be found likely on other planes? |
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Malcolm
Learned Scribe
242 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2009 : 01:53:53
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Dear Ed and THO,
I've been asked to help write a "Murder Mystery Dinner Party" for a local charity, and knowing Ed has done at least one, I wanted to know if either of you could share any pointers on establishing atmosphere (plot is no problem, and the venue - - a smallish ornate old local mansion - - is a given). Are there mystery books I should read? Pitfalls to avoid?
Thanks!
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2009 : 07:04:05
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Found this question floating in the ether:-
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Originally posted by Snowblood
Hi Ed..took your advice decamped my biggys to the main arena...so in the 'ye olden days' how did the elves go about bonding and raising their dragons.
What kinds of 'monsters' over ran the southern high forest and how did they change the landscape?
Did Eaerlann have a Coronal?
Is Myth Glaurach built on the ruins of Sharlarion??????
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
804 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2009 : 14:09:21
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| Hmmm. Methinks there's been something said about Myth Glaurach's location here at the Keep, but not by Ed or THO. Anyone remember where this lore might be found? |
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
804 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2009 : 14:12:21
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Sage? Wooly? This thread of Ed's seems to have gone wonky again. It's not updating post counts or displaying this page (109) in the Chamber of Sages threads overview page...
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2009 : 14:49:25
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Originally posted by Blueblade
Hmmm. Methinks there's been something said about Myth Glaurach's location here at the Keep, but not by Ed or THO. Anyone remember where this lore might be found?
We have a pretty exact placement for Myth Glaurach, from the Mintiper's Chapbook entry of the same name. What I don't know is where Sharlarion was -- it's been a while since I read Evermeet, and I'm not recalling other references to its location. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2009 : 15:24:13
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Blueblade
Hmmm. Methinks there's been something said about Myth Glaurach's location here at the Keep, but not by Ed or THO. Anyone remember where this lore might be found?
We have a pretty exact placement for Myth Glaurach, from the Mintiper's Chapbook entry of the same name. What I don't know is where Sharlarion was -- it's been a while since I read Evermeet, and I'm not recalling other references to its location.
Brian James made an early attempt at placing Sharlarion in the '-25,500 DR map' of the Grand History PDF. It's just SW of the western most border of Ostoria. |
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gomez
Learned Scribe
Netherlands
254 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2009 : 15:33:34
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Hi, all.
Well, I would choose Storm Silverhand. She needs a LOT more love.
Ed agrees, and would do her second; he wants to do Alustriel first, before "the chance is completely gone."
Hmm. Interesting deductions can be made from that statement.
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Baleful Avatar
Learned Scribe
Canada
161 Posts |
Posted - 29 Oct 2009 : 19:18:01
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Dear Ed,
Last night I encountered a beautiful lady at Toronto's airport. She saw the copy of ELMINSTER'S DAUGHTER I was reading while I waited for my relatives' flight to arrive and told me she once worked for TSR and she "loved meeting you" because you were "such fun."
She also said that you did a "mean striptease" !!!
And she added teasingly that something in that book is based on a real-life detail of something about TSR, at the time.
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Malcolm
Learned Scribe
242 Posts |
Posted - 29 Oct 2009 : 23:33:43
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Menelvagor
Senior Scribe
Israel
352 Posts |
Posted - 30 Oct 2009 : 07:26:59
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Originally posted by The Hooded One:
Ed agrees, and would do her second; he wants to do Alustriel first
So Ed would 'do' them both, but you would only choose them? Have you converted or something, my lady?
Seriously though, I've got a question: How would you classify Alassra's madness before and after Elminster? For example: 'Before Elminster her madness was seen by general unhinged behavoir, such as [insert behavoir here], and after Elminster her madness was seen only in [insert behavoir here].
Of course, if that's too specific, I'll take whatever you can give. |
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Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.
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Zandilar
Learned Scribe
Australia
313 Posts |
Posted - 30 Oct 2009 : 10:48:40
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Heya,
quote:
Originally posted by Baleful Avatar
Last night I encountered a beautiful lady at Toronto's airport. She saw the copy of ELMINSTER'S DAUGHTER I was reading while I waited for my relatives' flight to arrive and told me she once worked for TSR and she "loved meeting you" because you were "such fun."
She also said that you did a "mean striptease" !!!
And she added teasingly that something in that book is based on a real-life detail of something about TSR, at the time.
So, care to elaborate?
This story kind of confuses me... I think it's the "real-life detail of something about TSR" in a Elminster's Daughter. Elminster's Daughter was definitely published by Wizards of the Coast (TSR is long defunct now). I presume that she meant it was based on a real life detail of something that happened in the past while TSR was still in existence?
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~audaces fortuna iuvat~
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 30 Oct 2009 : 15:52:13
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| Well, duh. It obviously refers to when Gary Gygax had to chase Jeff Grubb across the rooftops of most of Lake Geneva back in 1983. |
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
804 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2009 : 16:22:45
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Dear Ed and THO,
I was re-reading my way through one of my old GenCon program books (I used to write notes to myself in them, about what I heard at seminars and people I met and new products and games to try and suchlike), and I came across this one, from the last or nearly the last Milwaukee GenCon: "Jim Butler has new Realms art/Elminster with Lion Sword/ask Ed about the Blue Unicorn"
So, okay, Ed, belated this truly is, but . . . what's the Blue Unicorn, and what else can you tell us about it?
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
804 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2009 : 16:39:37
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Hi, everybody. I just received this e-mail from the lovely Lady THO, who tells me she can't log on to the Keep for some tech-glitch reason. She's asked me to post it, so here it is:
Hi again, all.
crazed venturers recently asked: "We know from 'Cormyr: a Novel' that Dhedluk is named after an individual who helped 'save Cormyr', am wondering whether Tyrluk is named after someone as well? (given the similar nomenclature?). I would of course be interested in all the other major town names (Suzail excluded for obvious reasons) and how they came to be called what they are (Arabel - a corruption of 'a rebel' given its history?)
As an aside: Eveningstar is it named after the Starwater? I have always assumed this is a common transalation of the elven name for the settlement that was there before humans came to rule Cormyr?"
Ed replies:
My full nomenclature notes for Cormyr are both scattered and buried (as a result of respnding to various TSR requests long ago, at various times, then packing everything up for a house move), but I can tell you that "luk" in the old human local parlance meant "place of" or "home of" ("alukh" in speech, shortened to the suffix "luk" when made part of a name), and that Tyrluk is so named because of a local human "lord" (war leader; a 'robber baron' sort of chap) named Arlutyr (pronounced "Arl-ah-TEER") about whom not much is remembered save that he was black-bearded and handsome, a gallant rake, a forester who led a large band of outlaws who got along well with the elves but resisted all attempts by anyone to rule over him, and who slaughtered a lot of monsters [he was fond of threatening those who came after him by leaving the bleeding corpses of monsters in their homes for them to find when they awakened one morning, WITHOUT wakening them during his break-in to put them there].
Eveningstar is a human translation of an elven name, but then "Starwater" is also based on an elf name that meant in part "Stars-in-the-Water." When I find my #$%@$# notes, I'll be able to tell you more. :}
So saith Ed, who is busy busy busy. As usual.
love,
THO
. . . And that's it. Great fun, receiving a THO missive in my inbox. Perhaps some day I'll meet the lovely lady in person (hint hint, no need to wear clothes yto our meeting, ahem).
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2009 : 16:52:35
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Hi again, all! The glitch Blueblade refers to was apparently in my keyboard, not the Keep end, and it seems Ed's thread is working again! Huzzah! (And thanks to Sage, Wooly, and whoever else my have hand a hand in fixing it!)
I even bring another Ed-reply, this time to Baleful Avatar: "Having just read the end of THE GHOST KING (don't worry, no spoilers!), I'd just like to ask Ed: how do you PREFER to end series books? Cliffhanger? Revelation? Big battle? Or does it depend on the story? Thanks!"
Ed replies:
It very much depends on the story. I like any and all of cliffhangers, revelations, and big battles, but NOT contrived ones. They have to be part of the story; throughout the reading experience, I want the reader to feel as if I'm reporting the unfolding history of what actually happens in the Realms, never "constructing a plot."
Bob and I have discussed what's going on at the end of GHOST KING, and why, and I fully agree with him. LOVE his poignant last line, too!
So saith Ed. Who will return with more Realmslore as soon as he can.
love to all - - and thanks, Blueblade, for the prompt assist!
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2009 : 19:34:25
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Hi again, all.
Blueblade, unless a different Blue Unicorn I've never heard of is meant, the Blue Unicorn in the Realms is two linked things:
1. A famous Waterdhavian-noble-born lady of pleasure who worked in Suzail, masked to conceal her identity, and:
2. The brothel/"club" she founded, owned, and ran, in Suzail (it's still going, but she died of old age/natural causes in the 1340s, though I THINK one of her "girls" took over the title and mask). It's very upper-crust; that is, a quiet, luxuriously-furnished, discreet "grand house" in which members can relax, read, play board or card games, chat, dine on meals prepared in the club for them, and so on, with lots of well-behaved servants/bouncers to keep things private. It is NOT haughty, or reserved for the nobility, though a lot of them frequent it, and it's become a sort of "neutral ground" for them, a place where feuds and so on are temporarily set aside, and nobles mingle with wannabes they'll "cut dead" outside, on the street.
Ed can, of course, say more - - such as whether or not a THIRD "Blue Unicorn" (search me . . . please!) is meant.
love,
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2009 : 23:52:00
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
(And thanks to Sage, Wooly, and whoever else my have hand a hand in fixing it!)
Actually, I think it just adjusted itself. It sometimes happens, when enough posts are made to register the new page on the forum tables. The delay, I'm afraid, is connected to the little ASP gremlins that have again began plaguing Candlekeep. |
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crazedventurers
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1073 Posts |
Posted - 01 Nov 2009 : 07:09:46
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Originally posted by Blueblade
Hi, everybody. I just received this e-mail from the lovely Lady THO, who tells me she can't log on to the Keep for some tech-glitch reason. She's asked me to post it, so here it is:
Cheers BB for posting THO's email and thanks to Ed and THO for responding so quickly.
Much appreciated
Damian
wondering if the ghoulies and ghosties have been active in Faerun recently?
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So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
Candlekeep Forum 7 May 2005 |
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AlorinDawn
Learned Scribe
USA
313 Posts |
Posted - 03 Nov 2009 : 01:52:59
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It's been a long while since I've roamed these halls. Since it's been a while. I have the only question that is approproate at my return.
Ed & THO,
How the hell have you two been? |
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
2165 Posts |
Posted - 03 Nov 2009 : 04:21:30
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| It's been a while for me too, and I don't have any new questions. I just thought I'd check in on the core of my interest, being a mere fanboi of all things Realmsian and their lineage. That's all. |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 03 Nov 2009 : 18:31:49
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Oh, Jakk, believe me: once he saw the stellar expanding and polishing job our Garen Thal did on the Cormyr lineage, Ed started moving heaven and earth to get it published, somewhere and somehow.
Even though that was a metaphorical heaven and earth, moving it was still a hard and heavy task, and isn't finished yet.
Believe me, we all want to see the Lineage published. Brian Cortijo did the superb job of rounding out the work of Ed, Eric, George, Grant, Tom, Bryon, and several others!
love,
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Hemera
Acolyte
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Posted - 03 Nov 2009 : 20:23:18
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Dear ED/THO:
I am a great fan of the FR campaign set and I play a group of Eilistraeen followers with my friends. We would like to know if there is any information available of any legend or tale about the Seldarine and the chronicles of the War of the Elven Gods. I have read somewhere that there was something canon, but I don't know for sure if it's just a rumor.
Also, is there any reference of all the orders that serve to the church of Eilistraee? I have read about the Protectos of Song and the Darksong Knights. Are there the only ones?
Finally, we would like to know if there is a list somewhere of Eilistraeen shrines and settlements through the Realms.
All these questions are of previous Spellplague age, of course, before that *cough* nasty thing that happens (I will not spoil anything here).
Thank you for your time and best regards. |
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althen artren
Senior Scribe
USA
780 Posts |
Posted - 03 Nov 2009 : 22:26:05
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Here are some random questions that I have thought of as I populate
my Myth Drannor for 1377 DR.
The redeemed drow. It has been stated somewhere else to use either
the ability mods of either moon elves or wild elves. Is there an
official stance somewhere?
What kind of general personality traits do these elves have now?
I am totally unable to wrap my head around how these elves will
interact with their former deadly adversaries.
Would they still use their drow surnames, or would a change be
encourage to show their new start?
Same general combat styles and magic preferences?
Would there be prejudice from the conservative old money
elven families, or would there be a race wide message from
the Seldarine to welcome them back into the fold? |
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Icelander
Master of Realmslore
1864 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2009 : 06:25:48
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In the City of Ravens Bluff accessory, Dean of Illusion at the Wizards' Guild, Uldiznae Rockfall, is stated to bemoan the status of his people, the gnomes, as the 'Forgotten Folk' of the Realms. He longs to make Ravens Bluff a place where they might be more accepted and take a larger role in shaping events.
As the first step of realising his dream, he is reportedly planning to manouver at least four gnomes to the Merchant Council of the city.
This interests me and I'd like to showcase this gnome and his ambitions further in my campaign. But I have a bit of a conundrum. I couldn't find four gnomes or gnome-run businesses in the book, let alone four with enough clout and revenue to be considered for the Council.
Can Ed point me toward any powerful gnomes in the city, either ones I might have missed in the book or ones that did not make it in, for some reason?
I can, of course, make them up from whole cloth, but I would prefer if at least some of them fitted into the fabric of the city as Ed sees it. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 04 Nov 2009 : 09:29:06
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Greetings Ed, another question that's perhaps not entirely FR-related from me again (sorry)
I've been on a Jacqueline Carey-trip lately (strongly recommended to those who like long novels where the author allow the plot to develop at its own pace, and who don't mind some occasionally very detailed sex-scenes - quite often between characters of the same gender), and one of the things I really like about her first trilogy is the way it has a leading lady who is completely and utterly unsuited to be the heroine of your typical epic fantasy series: (no magic powers [or well... that statement could be discussed, but no obvious magic powers as a D&D-player would recognise it], would probably have a hard time beating your average 14-year-old boy in a hand-to-hand fight, and would probably rather go shopping for new clothes than gallivanting 'round the alternate Europe she lives in). So to bring this post on to topic - has Ed ever considered writing (or even written) a story or novel about a similarly fish-not-so-much-out-of-water-as-out-of-the atmosphere-character? |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 04 Nov 2009 : 14:13:43
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quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase
Greetings Ed, another question that's perhaps not entirely FR-related from me again (sorry)
I've been on a Jacqueline Carey-trip lately (strongly recommended to those who like long novels where the author allow the plot to develop at its own pace, and who don't mind some occasionally very detailed sex-scenes - quite often between characters of the same gender), and one of the things I really like about her first trilogy is the way it has a leading lady who is completely and utterly unsuited to be the heroine of your typical epic fantasy series: (no magic powers [or well... that statement could be discussed, but no obvious magic powers as a D&D-player would recognise it], would probably have a hard time beating your average 14-year-old boy in a hand-to-hand fight, and would probably rather go shopping for new clothes than gallivanting 'round the alternate Europe she lives in). So to bring this post on to topic - has Ed ever considered writing (or even written) a story or novel about a similarly fish-not-so-much-out-of-water-as-out-of-the atmosphere-character?
Not to step on anyone's toes, but you might want to check out Ed's Falconfar Saga. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 04 Nov 2009 : 16:44:03
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Well said, Ashe.
Kajehase, the Falconfar trilogy (Rebellion will publish the third book, FALCONFAR, as soon as they can; Simon & Shuster now have it slated for March 2010 in North America; Ed finished it long ago) is centered on a fish-out-of-water protagonist.
And although many of the supporting characters in Ed's Niflheim books are capable and heroic, they are also fishes out of water, operating outside the environments they grew up in and understand (surface world vs. underground, city-dwellers in the subterranean world out in the wild tunnels, clergy out in the secular world, etc.)
love,
THO
P.S. MANY of Ed's short stories, outside the Realms, and some set in the Realms (e.g. The Place Where Guards Snore At Their Posts) feature unlikely, "unqualified" heroes. |
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Menelvagor
Senior Scribe
Israel
352 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2009 : 20:16:43
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| Okay... no one has yet made any remark on Kajehase saying that Phedre has no magic powers? Aren't we growing staid and prim... |
"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.
"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.
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