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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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 Posted - 23 Aug 2009 : 17:26:34
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Hi again, all. Tidbit time again, courtesy of Ed!
Back on page 80 of this thread, The Sage asked this (as a followup to a query from Markustay about Ed telling us about any Chosen who might reside outside Faerûn): “Ed, I'd also like to hear more about any Chosen of Mystra who might reside [or, maybe, once did reside] beyond Toril itself, perhaps somewhere else out among the reaches of Realmspace?”
Ed replies:
Some of what I’d like to say is under several NDAs, but I can mention one such Chosen: Narandor the Metal Mage. An embittered, cynical hermit (think Eeyore in the Pooh tales, for disposition), this archwizard of early Halruaa ended up on the wrong end of a spell-duel and got mangled horribly, in magics that kept him alive to feel the pain as a foe’s sequence of minor acid-burst and transforming spells wracked him (envisage, if you will, spells that shield the target from system shock and unconsciousness, and shapeshift them constantly to heal and reform around budding cysts in the interior of which flesh-searing acid is developed; the cysts grow and then burst, showering the surrounding flesh of the victim with agonizing “melting” effects; the cysts have an interior coating that resists and contains the acid until the cyst ruptures).
Debilitated but unable to die, Narandor writhed in helpless pain until some of his former apprentices found him. They tried to quell the spells riding him, but managed only to isolate them in several of his limbs—which they then blasted into oblivion. Narandor lost consciousness, and they debated as to what to do for him; slay him out of mercy, transform him utterly, transfer his sentience into a beast-body, or - - their eventual choice - - replace his missing limbs with flowmetal, something many Halruaans had been working on. This is in effect “living” metal that bonds with an organic body and slowly poisons it, but in the meantime can function as replacement limbs, digits, etc. Flowmetal’s poisoning has never been overcome, and its use was later abandoned as spells were developed that could “infect” it swiftly to cause death of someone bonded to it in a handful of breaths, but Narandor received a right arm and shoulder, a right leg, and a left knee, all of replacement flowmetal - - which he has to this day. He counteracted the poisoning by devising a spell that shifts the chemical balance of his remaining organic body constantly, so that it flows in shape, weeps a pus of ceaseless discharges, and can grow functional fingers, breasts, crude press-lungs, false eyes, etc. as he wills.
Narandor was already a master of skyship design, and he sailed one of his ships high into the sky and tethered it to a magically-levitated chunk of rock (all that remained of a blasted-to-dust “skycastle” fortress, that had once belonged to a Netherese archwizard until several rivals decided to destroy him whilst he was in residence).
Then Narandor used his spells to cover the rock with edible mosses, lichens, and mushrooms, and settled down in isolation to devise new spells. His experiments were long and studded with more failures than successes, but he eventually achieved two things: the ability to ensnare moisture and shield his home from the full heat of the sun, so as to keep that dampness and preserve his plants from baking on the rock - - and the ability to move his home through the skies with fair precision. Whereupon, of course, he set about traveling around collecting other aerial fragments, and “growing” his home into his own private little jungle, plus bits and pieces of several ruined skyships and aerial abodes.
Mystra imbued him with some of her silver fire (with his enthusiastic agreement) not to have him be a meddling “remake the world” Chosen, but to store some of herself where others were unlikely to come into contact with it. For his part, Narandor gained a permanent freedom from the flowmetal poisoning effect (the silver fire offsets it), Mystra’s love, gratitude, and presence whenever he grows lonely and calls for it, and philosophical debates from time to time with Mystra or various of her servitors, who now act as Narandor’s agents in Faerûn, to bring him back items he desires (mainly substances for spell experimentations).
Narandor is now fairly contented, though he retains his doleful manner, and lives his life making various exotic wines, researching spells, and using his magics to observe events on Faerûn far below.
This is all pre-Spellplague, of course; what befalls him when the Weave fails is up to you; I’d suspect his aerial home would be sent on a wild ride, and eventually crash to earth - - but I’d not count Narandor out as conveniently dying in the crash. I’d suspect he’d survive the Spellplague, as a disfigured, part-metal wandering wizard who keeps to himself and stays hidden as much as possible. Extremely bad news for any arrogant young warlock or wizard who encounters and misjudges him, of course. ;}
So saith Ed. Creator of the Realms, and spinner of masterful little tidbits of additional Realmslore (like this one) whenever we can nudge him into doing so.
And I (she purred) am a nudger from way back . . .
love to all,
THO
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Bladewind
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sfdragon
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Posted - 23 Aug 2009 : 18:55:10
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 23 Aug 2009 : 20:41:09
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Hi again, all.
sfdragon, I sent your query off to Ed, and he sent back:
There are vague, nebulous, no-publisher-attached plans for a setting book, yes. However, don't expect to see one soon. The final novel in the trilogy, also called FALCONFAR, has been submitted to the publisher, accepted, and is expected to appear in February 2010.
I say "expected" because there's a complicating factor (which is also why setting book plans remain nebulous): Black Library put the Solaris imprint up for sale, and any new owner may well have different plans (and interpretations of current books and series) than Solaris has right now.
However, yes, I would very much like to do a Falconfar setting book. Even a boardgame. :}
So saith Ed. Builder of worlds upon worlds...
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Jakk
Great Reader
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Posted - 23 Aug 2009 : 21:28:35
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Hi again, all.
I bring this tidbit, from Ed of the Greenwood:
Hi, Jakk. Regarding CASTLEMOURN, my honest answer is: right now, I don't know about its future. I have to chat with Jamie Chambers and Margaret Weis and see what their take on things is/are; I still have (eventual, future) plans for novels set in Castlemourn, with or without MWP involvement. I'd like to see Brian Gute and Jenn Brozek (plus three other writers who must remain secret for now, two because I haven't fully discussed this with them yet, and the other because of the uncertainty and his situation) get a chance to spread their wings and do Castlemourn fiction, probably a line of novels. However, I do want you to know that as far as I'm concerned, Castlemourn is NOT dead, and I retain rights to the setting.
And then there's Embersea . . .<snip>
  Yes... and let's not forget Falconfar, as mentioned in Ed's reply to sfdragon... many very good things... thank you, Ed and THO. |
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Brimstone
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Posted - 23 Aug 2009 : 21:29:32
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Castlemourn Novels sound great. I would read them.
Narandor the Metal Mage: pretty interesting. I see him Floating in the Astral Sea after the Spellplague.
Falconfar Setting would be total win. I still need to order Archwizard.
Thanks THO and of course Ed. |
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Zandilar
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 00:26:25
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Heya,
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Debilitated but unable to die, Narandor writhed in helpless pain until some of his former apprentices found him. They tried to quell the spells riding him, but managed only to isolate them in several of his limbs—which they then blasted into oblivion. Narandor lost consciousness, and they debated as to what to do for him; slay him out of mercy, transform him utterly, transfer his sentience into a beast-body, or - - their eventual choice - - replace his missing limbs with flowmetal, something many Halruaans had been working on. <snip explanation of flow metal>
I just love how his apprentices come up with several things they could do, then do the worst possible one they could - one that is (to the best of their knowledge at the time) going to result in a long, drawn out, and painful death. (Which is on top of what was already done to the poor man, really, did they want to break him completely?)
What happened to getting him to a cleric stat? |
Zandilar
~amor vincit omnia~
~audaces fortuna iuvat~
As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.
The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 01:38:11
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Ed, you've my eternal thanks. And you as well, my lovely Lady.
So this is intriguing stuff. I'll definitely be dropping this into my campaign when I've an opportunity. As my players can always expect some tantalising piece of Realmspace-lore to find its way into whatever type of campaign they're running through.
One additional question:- Could you possibly tell me more about Narandor's past skyship designs?
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 02:33:30
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Heh. Zandilar, you speak with the calm, reasoned voice of truth.
So at odds with early Halruaa, with all of its Netherese treachery, insanity, paranoia, backbiting, and wild reasoning.
I often wish a little more of Ed's Halruaa had been published, before we got the FR16 (it was 16, wasn't it? I'm away from my lore-library right now) and then Elaine's versions, both of which deal with the later, more tradition-bound and "ordered society" evolution of the land.
Sage, your query has been e-hurled in Ed's direction, to see what he'll cough up. 
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 06:44:50
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
Heh. Zandilar, you speak with the calm, reasoned voice of truth.
So at odds with early Halruaa, with all of its Netherese treachery, insanity, paranoia, backbiting, and wild reasoning.
I often wish a little more of Ed's Halruaa had been published, before we got the FR16 (it was 16, wasn't it? I'm away from my lore-library right now) and then Elaine's versions, both of which deal with the later, more tradition-bound and "ordered society" evolution of the land.
Sage, your query has been e-hurled in Ed's direction, to see what he'll cough up.
love to all,
THO
Yup, FR16 -- the first of two FR tomes to bear the name Shining South. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 08:04:12
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Sage, your query has been e-hurled in Ed's direction, to see what he'll cough up.
I've got a side-query related to that question as well. But since it'll bring up some details of my own campaign [which I can't really post here], I'll e-hurl your way.
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Kajehase
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 12:05:58
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Yup, FR16 -- the first of two FR tomes to bear the name Shining South.
Isn't one of them called the Shining South, though? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 14:29:53
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quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Yup, FR16 -- the first of two FR tomes to bear the name Shining South.
Isn't one of them called the Shining South, though?
Yes. FR16 is titled The Shining South. The 3e tome is simply Shining South.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 15:31:15
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Kajehase
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Yup, FR16 -- the first of two FR tomes to bear the name Shining South.
Isn't one of them called the Shining South, though?
Yes. FR16 is titled The Shining South. The 3e tome is simply Shining South.
Quite true, but it's a pretty minor difference in titles. I wish they'd given the 3E tome a name that wasn't practically identical, because that kind of thing only leads to confusion. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 16:01:52
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Yup, FR16 -- the first of two FR tomes to bear the name Shining South.
Isn't one of them called the Shining South, though?
Yes. FR16 is titled The Shining South. The 3e tome is simply Shining South.
Quite true, but it's a pretty minor difference in titles. I wish they'd given the 3E tome a name that wasn't practically identical, because that kind of thing only leads to confusion.
Hmmm. I seem to recall either Thomas Reid or Rich Baker [over at Wizards] suggesting that alternate names for the 3e tome were discussed at some point.
I'll have to check my archives.
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 17:09:03
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
I often wish a little more of Ed's Halruaa had been published, before we got the FR16 (it was 16, wasn't it? I'm away from my lore-library right now) and then Elaine's versions, both of which deal with the later, more tradition-bound and "ordered society" evolution of the land.
Sage, your query has been e-hurled in Ed's direction, to see what he'll cough up.
love to all,
THO
How much did the south, as shown in that product, match with Ed's original ideas? I would guess that most of it was the creation of Tom Prusa, but did it still manage to portray the right "feel" of the region as originally intended? |
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createvmind
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 21:33:29
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Hello All,
For Ed, THO you can answer if you hav any info as well. I want to know if Ed used diseases or poisons that affected creatures thought to be immune to either?
I'm thinking that Talona in particular would surely have issues with those that oppose her being immune to her afflictions.
I assume that Ed created afflictions that might be technically considered a poison or a disease in terms of symtoms but may have been something else entirely.
Any thing you can share? |
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Hoondatha
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Posted - 25 Aug 2009 : 22:38:11
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| Hey Ed, I hope you're recovering from GenCon alright; one of these days I'll make it down there and say hi again. In the meantime, however, I have a quick question: I was rereading Volo's Guide to All Things Magical and noticed something that had escaped me all the other times I read it. In the section on Elixirs, under the Great Elixir, Volo mentions that Elminster has assured him that the recipe he's about to give is accurate. However, he doesn't actually *give* a recipe, the way he does with the other three elixirs. Instead he launches right into the effects. Can you share how to make it? I enjoy sending my players off on various wild-goose chases (if anyone from my CK game is reading this... uhh... heh heh ), and could definitely make use of the recipe. Many thanks. |
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Jakk
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Aug 2009 : 06:57:33
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Hello Ed and THO,
I was perusing Candlekeep's library when I found (again) a scroll by Doug Niles recounting the Darkwalker on Moonshae refitting. It reminded me of a question I had when I first read the scroll three years ago (at which time I was not a contributing scribe, just a newly-arrived frequent reader). Is the original geography of your Moonshaes covered by the original-submission NDA blanket, or is it possible for you to share a map of that region with us at Candlekeep? Thank you for your reply, whatever it may be. |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 26 Aug 2009 : 18:26:41
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Sorry, Jakk. The "original" Moonshaes are indeed behind the mighty NDA wall.
Some scribes have seen them when (the Ed roast at a GenCon some years back, for instance) the "master" map of the Realms has been exhibited (Ed's photocopies all taped together and marker-coloured; glimpses of it can be seen in the D&D 40th anniversary coffee table book, again from a few years back), but neither TSR nor WotC have ever officially published them anywhere.
However, who knows? Ed will try again to get them into print, somehow and somewhere, and we'll see.
One can but try.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 26 Aug 2009 : 18:29:33
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Hi again, all.
Ed has fallen silent for two days to quickly take care of some future Realms matters. The Realms are not dead!
love to all,
THO |
Edited by - The Hooded One on 26 Aug 2009 18:31:37 |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Aug 2009 : 19:23:04
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
Hi again, all.
Ed has fallen silent for two days to quickly take care of some future Realms matters. The Realms are not dead!
love to all,
THO
That looks promising. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Joran Nobleheart
Senior Scribe
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495 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2009 : 19:31:20
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| Please tell Mr. Greenwood that I wish him all the best with his new Realms project, and that this is one paladin that's looking forward to opening a chest (my bookstore) and reading through the brand new tome that's found therein! |
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
2165 Posts |
Posted - 26 Aug 2009 : 19:53:45
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quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
Hi again, all.
Ed has fallen silent for two days to quickly take care of some future Realms matters. The Realms are not dead!
love to all,
THO
That looks promising.
It does indeed... |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
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Zandilar
Learned Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 27 Aug 2009 : 10:05:57
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Heya,
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
Ed has fallen silent for two days to quickly take care of some future Realms matters. The Realms are not dead!
I don't know why, but I feel like a goose just walked over my grave...
There's something ominous about the way you had to clarify that the Realms were not dead, my lady. Is there something I'm missing? |
Zandilar
~amor vincit omnia~
~audaces fortuna iuvat~
As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.
The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 27 Aug 2009 : 10:44:48
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quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar
Heya,
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
Ed has fallen silent for two days to quickly take care of some future Realms matters. The Realms are not dead!
I don't know why, but I feel like a goose just walked over my grave...
There's something ominous about the way you had to clarify that the Realms were not dead, my lady. Is there something I'm missing?
I just read that as eagerness and encouragement to those who are sceptical about the future of the Realms product-wise myself. |
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gomez
Learned Scribe
Netherlands
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Posted - 27 Aug 2009 : 13:51:38
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quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens
I just read that as eagerness and encouragement to those who are sceptical about the future of the Realms product-wise myself.
The Realms are vibrant and alive!
I also think she was joking about the relative quietness on the board.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 27 Aug 2009 : 16:39:35
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Hi again, all.
Right on, gomez and Jorkens.
You need not worry about the Realms, Zandilar. The number of burgeoning projects Ed is involved in or being consulted on or hearing about bodes very well for the Realms as a continuing published presence.
Not in the "half dozen sourcebooks and same number of novels plus comics and other extras, per year" form it used to be in - - but then, if you look across the industry, NOTHING is getting that sort of coverage these days (Warhammer comes closest, but only if you consider all the different novel lines still "one"). The era of the Net and the PDF and the online magazine and web enhancements have all hit, and wrought their changes.
Me, I'd still prefer the bookshelf of tangible books I could read, and re-read (and buy still-in-print replacements for, when they finally fell apart through heavy usage and love), but as Ed often says: "I'm not running a game company. I'd be a disaster at it if I tried."
love,
THO
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Aug 2009 : 20:10:31
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hehe THO tell ED for me that its a disaster if anyone tries that, even the ones who are doing it.
disaster= pain killers and killer headaches. |
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
804 Posts |
Posted - 27 Aug 2009 : 20:50:29
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Dear Ed and THO,
I ran into a gamer earlier today who once played in an Ed-run Realms adventure, and he told me to ask Ed to tell me "the story of the six dragons fighting in a castle, and wrecking it," apparently while he and other PC adventurers were inside.
So, Ed, being as this is one I've GOT to hear . . . please? 
Thanks!
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