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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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 Posted - 14 Mar 2009 : 23:43:41
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Originally posted by Penknight
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Originally posted by Markustay
Maybe it was published by that false King - didn't he end up in Ravenloft or something?
Wooly's correct. He wound up in Ravenloft, changed alignment, found himself a girl, and became a member of the Circle... a Knight of the Shadows. I myself have a character that's a Knight of the Shadows. I can't wait till Halloween to play him again; it's a seasonal campaign though we play it sometimes on Friday the 13th or during really bad storms. Adds a lot of flavor. 
Oh, he's on page 144 of the Ravenloft Gazeteer Volume II if that helps anyone, by the way. 
And so long as you aren't particular about which edition you're drawing information from... you'll find a little more about Gondegal in the old "Black Box" for the RAVENLOFT setting.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 15 Mar 2009 : 01:56:42
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Hi again, all.
This, from Ed of the Greenwood and The Hooded One, to bobwriggins:
LUCK!
love,
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Broken Helm
Learned Scribe
USA
108 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2009 : 02:10:17
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So I come sidling up to THO, not wanting to get my behind handed to me for daring to "nudge" the Creator of the Realms, but I believe someone (not, he added hastily, me) asked for a clue or even two to be provided to flummoxed scribes, re. the possible publisher of the steamy Queen Filfaeril chapbook.
So . . . howzabout it? (Leaps back out of range, adopts wide smile of apology, grovels a bit for good measure, then sits up grinning like an idiot and panting like a dog.)
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Longtime Lurker
Seeker
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Posted - 15 Mar 2009 : 03:38:26
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Hmmm, I wonder if it could be an envoy/ambassador to the Court of Cormyr from somewhere less friendly than Silverymoon (such as Sembia, or Westgate, or Amn). Scribes, has Ed ever named any such?
Or what about those craven high holy men of Cormyr we saw at the end of DEATH OF THE DRAGON? Any of them lust after Queen Fee, or hold a grudge against her, or want to enrage any of the Obarskyrs for some reason?
Hmm, indeed . . . |
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Longtime Lurker
Seeker
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Posted - 15 Mar 2009 : 03:40:36
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Oh, and move over, dog of a Broken Helm. I can pant and grin idiotically at the lovely Lady Hooded just as well as you can, and I hear there's room in the spanking line . . .
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2009 : 12:46:09
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-I will lay on my back and let THO rub my belly!
BRIMSTONE |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2009 : 15:25:33
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I hate it when his leg starts kicking... 
Any way, I have a guess for the author - The Lark |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36906 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2009 : 17:35:25
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As promised, some questions about books!
I was just looking at Krash's Book List for Tomes in Candlekeep, which builds on Steven Schend's Candlekeep Collection. There were three books that jumped out at me (actually more, but that was because of typos; I'm doubting Alusair wrote a book in 1239!  ). These particular books jumped out at me because of their names, so I thought I'd see what lore you could provide about these books and their authors.
Memoirs of an Illithid-Human Crossbreed, by Naneetha Shinalstar, War Mage of Saelmur
Tavern Dancing My Way to Wizardly Might, by Jerenneth Ghalvin of Neverwinter
What Came Out of My Mouth Too Swiftly, by Jeremmer Hardree, “the Mad Jester”
As always, thank you for your time! |
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gomez
Learned Scribe
Netherlands
254 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2009 : 20:35:31
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Gondegal did wind up in Ravenloft. And the market for such a chapbook is much, much smaller there.
He was one of the non-darklords detailed in the first release of the setting.
He was mentioned in the Grand History of the Realms, too, with a totally ridiculous attempt to portray him using some recycled image.
I liked the portrair with the drooopy mustache in Ravenloft.
I wouldn't say the book would be less popular there. It would be the next hot thing in Dementlieu.
Anyway, 'people known at the court of Cormyr' may actually contain a lot of people depending on how well they need be known...
How about Lady Tavernant? I just found her in Volo's Guide to Cormyr, and she is an noblewoman (hence would be known at court, I guess), eccentric, and can print her own copies... even if she didn't write it, I am sure she printed a few...
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Menelvagor
Senior Scribe
Israel
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Posted - 15 Mar 2009 : 20:58:00
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| Really, because I'd love to see info on this book, and what it contains: 'Why I Ride Men and Not Thrones', by Alusair. What were the reactions? Especially in Cormyr, by nobles, commoners, and family? |
"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.
"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.
"There are no stupid questions – just a bunch of inquisitive idiots."
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2009 : 23:24:41
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
As promised, some questions about books!
I was just looking at Krash's Book List for Tomes in Candlekeep, which builds on Steven Schend's Candlekeep Collection. There were three books that jumped out at me (actually more, but that was because of typos; I'm doubting Alusair wrote a book in 1239! ). These particular books jumped out at me because of their names, so I thought I'd see what lore you could provide about these books and their authors.
Memoirs of an Illithid-Human Crossbreed, by Naneetha Shinalstar, War Mage of Saelmur
Tavern Dancing My Way to Wizardly Might, by Jerenneth Ghalvin of Neverwinter
What Came Out of My Mouth Too Swiftly, by Jeremmer Hardree, “the Mad Jester”
As always, thank you for your time!
Actually, Wooly's question reminded me of my own wish to learn more about some of the books on "Krash's listing" as well. Since I've slowly been adding to it, and trying to including most of the other references, particularly those tomes from Blackstaff and Blackstaff Tower, I've had plenty of opportunity to sit and think about which titles I'd like to hear more about.
So, here's my listing:-
- A Harper's Song by Alustriel, High Lady of Silverymoon
- An Ecology of the Planes by Garth of Suzail
- Anthropologic & Folkloric Histories of the Settled Lands by Carcroft the Long
- Ballads and Lore of One Dusty Road by Sharanralee
- Cormyrian Customs and Scandals by Aserglan Burtrann
- Fallen Legacies: Arcaeological and Historical Analysis of the Mere of Dead Men by Khelben "Blackstaff" Arunsun
- I Harp as I See It by Abranthar "Twoquills" Foraeren
- Lyres, Harps, and Horns: Sixty Years at Court in Suzail & Elsewhere by Aglasz Jhavildar, Sage of Suzail
- The Red Book of a Thayvian Mage by Thaelrythyn of Thay
- The Strings of a Shattered Lyre by Tammarast Tengloves, Bard of Elupar
Ed, I appreciate any lore both you and the Lady Hooded One can provide. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 15 Mar 2009 : 23:27:32
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Originally posted by gomez
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Gondegal did wind up in Ravenloft. And the market for such a chapbook is much, much smaller there.
He was one of the non-darklords detailed in the first release of the setting.
Yes, I believe I mentioned that already.
And in terms of completeness re: lore for Gondegal, you'll also find a little more info in the Ravenloft Gazetteer Volume II. |
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althen artren
Senior Scribe
USA
780 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 00:43:18
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Questions raised, scribes:
You must be losing you touch, Madam Hoody.
There are only three or four scribes in line.
I guess I'll have to get in line a second and
third time.
I was just kind of wondering about the Blackstaff.
What was his line of research when it came to the Seros
sea? Do you have knowledge or is this all SES line of
thought?
Can we maybe have a "unofficial list" of things he might keep
in a dead magic field?
How does Elminster like his quiche?
This might be something that I have asked before, but may I
have a description of the Frozen Forest? If I have, I apoligise. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3249 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 02:26:58
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Originally posted by althen artren
You must be losing you touch, Madam Hoody.
There are only three or four scribes in line.
I guess I'll have to get in line a second and
third time.
Ahhh... she's not losing her touch. We're just patient and quietly standing in line. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
Ashe's Character Sheet
Alphabetized Index of Realms NPCs |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 03:05:43
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Originally posted by Markustay
I hate it when his leg starts kicking...
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6680 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 05:35:27
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Originally posted by The Sage
Actually, Wooly's question reminded me of my own wish to learn more about some of the books on "Krash's listing" as well. Since I've slowly been adding to it, and trying to including most of the other references, particularly those tomes from Blackstaff and Blackstaff Tower.
Mine is updated also and I was thinking the other day about sending through the revised list. I'll have to get onto Alaundo and do so - once I've checked with Steven about some book dates.
-- George Krashos
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Zandilar
Learned Scribe
Australia
313 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 05:42:49
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Heya,
quote:
Originally posted by althen artren
You must be losing you touch, Madam Hoody.
There are only three or four scribes in line.
I guess I'll have to get in line a second and
third time.
I can think of far better things to do than spank or be spanked... that's why I haven't jumped in the queue myself.
Umm... Question... Hmm... Are there any examples of demon/devil hybrids in the Realms? (ie: something that's half demon and half devil)... I'm pretty sure they (demons and devils) don't explode on contact, and there are examples of "risen" fiends of all stripes, so I think it's not beyond the realms of imagining.
I ask because in my home brew (Cresan) there's a big plot involving a faction of demons and a faction of devils who are working together (and creating a bunch of hybrids in the process)... I'm interested in insights (and ideas I can pinch) to make it hold together better... (It is Realms related, because Mystra hopped a ride in one of the NPCs when they and the PCs returned to Cresan. It was an attempt to avoid Cyric's murder attempt by establishing a presence for herself in another world.) |
Zandilar
~amor vincit omnia~
~audaces fortuna iuvat~
As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.
The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 06:05:46
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Originally posted by George Krashos
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Actually, Wooly's question reminded me of my own wish to learn more about some of the books on "Krash's listing" as well. Since I've slowly been adding to it, and trying to including most of the other references, particularly those tomes from Blackstaff and Blackstaff Tower.
Mine is updated also and I was thinking the other day about sending through the revised list. I'll have to get onto Alaundo and do so - once I've checked with Steven about some book dates.
-- George Krashos
Could you possibly send me a copy friend Krash? I can then match it up with my own and, maybe, save you some further work. I've also got to follow-up on Steven's offer about providing me with some details about several tomes that he couldn't include in either Blackstaff or Blackstaff Tower. After all that, I'll send the whole listing to Alaundo for inclusion on the main site. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36906 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 06:09:27
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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
Actually, Wooly's question reminded me of my own wish to learn more about some of the books on "Krash's listing" as well. Since I've slowly been adding to it, and trying to including most of the other references, particularly those tomes from Blackstaff and Blackstaff Tower.
Mine is updated also and I was thinking the other day about sending through the revised list. I'll have to get onto Alaundo and do so - once I've checked with Steven about some book dates.
-- George Krashos
I did note a couple of oddball dates, like the aforementioned one with Alusair writing a book before she was born. Shall I email you those? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Menelvagor
Senior Scribe
Israel
352 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 08:48:38
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Oh, and for lore on books, I'll add a (possibly) final request:
What does A Small But Treasonous Chapbook, by Albaertin of Marsember contain? And why does it sound like something related to Filfaeril Bound and Walking? |
"Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly.
How much less them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation in the dust, are crushed before the moth?" - Eliphaz the Temanite, Job IV, 17-19.
"Yea, though he live a thousand years twice, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?" - Ecclesiastes VI, 6.
"There are no stupid questions – just a bunch of inquisitive idiots."
"Let's not call it 'hijacking'. Let's call it 'Thread Drift'." |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 16:38:06
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May I suggest posting the list somewhere, where we could all contribute?
I have a small list of my own, mostly pertaining to books relevant to the east. I'm not sure if you'd consider them 'Realms enough' for Candlekeep, but I have a lot from Kara-Tur and a few from Zakhara. |
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 20:45:40
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quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar
Heya,
<snip>
Umm... Question... Hmm... Are there any examples of demon/devil hybrids in the Realms? (ie: something that's half demon and half devil)... I'm pretty sure they (demons and devils) don't explode on contact, and there are examples of "risen" fiends of all stripes, so I think it's not beyond the realms of imagining.
I ask because in my home brew (Cresan) there's a big plot involving a faction of demons and a faction of devils who are working together (and creating a bunch of hybrids in the process)... I'm interested in insights (and ideas I can pinch) to make it hold together better... (It is Realms related, because Mystra hopped a ride in one of the NPCs when they and the PCs returned to Cresan. It was an attempt to avoid Cyric's murder attempt by establishing a presence for herself in another world.)
That's the best-kept secret in the multiverse... the demon-devil crossbreeds... they're yugoloths (formerly daemons, for those like me who remember 1E and 2E). At least, that would be a neat answer to the question... but I suspect that the yugoloths have their own origin story already... so we'll await Ed's response. |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
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createvmind
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 21:24:15
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Hello All,
Ed can you speak on thayan circle magic, how it has impacted faerun since Thay's birth. My players have tackled a thayan wizard and turned her over to a certain NPC, this NPC is well warded but I want to know if the investigating red wizards, all currently in Scornubel seek their abducted companion using circle magic, what occurs. I assume circle magic would be potent enough to pierce a single mages wards, if not at first, then eventually but is circle magic something that would be "noticed" by those sensitive to weave within Scornubel? Is it a subtle manipulation or a kick down the door type of manipulation? Would size of Scornubel and multitude of magics great and small within city blunt the circle magic ritual?
Secondly, the mage npc in question is an archmage of respectable lvls, would he know that his magic is being breached by a 'collective' effort as opposed to just hostile magic? Is divination magic something Thayans are good at casting collectively?
Anything you could provide would be helpful, thanks. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6680 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 21:50:37
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I did note a couple of oddball dates, like the aforementioned one with Alusair writing a book before she was born. Shall I email you those?
I think I've fixed them all in my revised, revised list but please send them through. The Book List is like the Roll of Years: no matter how many times you read through it, someone always finds another snafu you've missed.
-- George Krashos
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36906 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 23:24:25
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Sage, Krash, give me a day or two. Comparing the original and the revised list, I'm noting some other oddities -- in fact, the odd dates that I was originally noting appear to be caused by a date getting shifted down one row. I've also noted at least one book on the original list that's not on the revised list.
Speaking of sending stuff to you, Krash, I don't believe I received the review of that article I sent you... (hint, hint! ) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36906 Posts |
Posted - 16 Mar 2009 : 23:25:56
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Oh, and a couple more books to add to my query.
On the Care and Feeding of Banites, by Melthras of Semphar
The Phoenix Prophecies, by Unknown
Words Spent On Little Fools: Instructing Humans, by Hamairathgauraundon, High Wyrm of the Crags
Yellow Stars Above My Grave, by Indrikh Darsiir, "the Deathless Gnome" |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2009 : 00:07:01
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I've also noted at least one book on the original list that's not on the revised list.
Heh. I didn't notice that.
I, however, did notice a few errors with one or two of the authors listed as well, much like your example of Alusair earlier. I think the authors are correct, but with minor spelling irregularities that could've been caused by the transition from text to HTML. I'll take another look. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2009 : 00:12:12
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
The Phoenix Prophecies, by Unknown
Oh, I forgot about this one. Not only was I curious about the actual Prophecies, but much like the other books listed with "Unknown" authors, I was curious about what we could learn about the author as well.
And Ed, here's another three that I forgot to mention earlier. [That Wooly just reminded me of ]
- The High History of Faerűnian Archmages Mighty by Antarn the Sage
- Just Another Tome Among So Many: Last Leaves of a Librarian by Beldrim Bessart of Baldur's Gate
- Letters to Novice Court Wizards by Vangerdahast of Cormyr
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2009 : 00:31:27
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The Phoenix Prophesies were penned by the Herald Swordswreath.
However, he was just collecting and recording them for Candlekeep from MANY such prophesies created by the Abbalayar - the 'Arcane Prophets' of Calimshan.
The most famous of those prophets was Nar'ysr, and his Caleph Augeries feature prominently in the Phoenix Prophesies, the most important and cryptic of which are known as The Eclipses.
Empires of the Shining Sea, pg. 6-8 |
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