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zemd
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 24 Jul 2003 :  09:06:31  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It could be a good idea for a short story but i doubt of it for a novel the Mind Flayers and the Beholders social possibilities are a litlle bit weak. Furthermore they are too far from our way of thinking and acting.
But maybe a very talented writer could make me lie...
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MuadDib
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Posted - 24 Jul 2003 :  10:15:42  Show Profile  Visit MuadDib's Homepage Send MuadDib a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Or perhaps an Illithid, Githyanki crime duo....

Who knows. But I would certainly read a story about a mind flayer....so mysterious...like what are their motives, do they worship a God, who is their ultimate member, societal structure etc..

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The Sage
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Posted - 24 Jul 2003 :  10:38:32  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Considering the long and tumultuous history both the Illithids and Githyanki have had together, a crime duo would indeed seem like a very unlikely (if ever) match.


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DrizzitFan
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Posted - 29 Jul 2003 :  04:36:47  Show Profile  Visit DrizzitFan's Homepage Send DrizzitFan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It might be interesting to feature a series on the Pit Fiends and demons etc, e.g. Errtu - again from his perspective of vying for the Crystal Shard and that darn drow thwarting him from world domination.

Think demon society as yet not as developed (I may be wrong, don't own source books ) n might be scope for an demon slugfest in Hell leading to the establishment of the major demons.
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Mournblade
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Posted - 29 Jul 2003 :  06:08:00  Show Profile Send Mournblade a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sometimes monster societies are just meant NOT to be developed. Far to alien. They get Star Trekkish (sorry sage) if you start developing them in human terms.


A wizard is Never late Frodo Baggins. Nor is he Early. A wizard arrives precisely when he means to...
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The Sage
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Posted - 29 Jul 2003 :  06:19:54  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I feel I should clarify this a little.

Demons (Balors) inhabit the Abyss, and Devils (Pit Fiends) inhabit the Nine Hells of Baator. For nearly the entire history of the multiverse since the time of the Reckoning, both of these fiendish races have been involved in a brutal, chaotic and eternal Blood War. There is very little time for anything else in their lives. In fact everything these races do, is normally tied directly to influencing some aspect of this war. The only real reason for the slugfest you suggest would be the result of seeing the Crystal Shard as a means to finally defeating the other side.

As for the establishment of major Demons, there are already a variety of Abyssal Lords - Graz'zt and Juiblex being major examples of that type.


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The Sage
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No need to be sorry Mournblade, I happen to agree with you . In fact that is another reason why I have science- and anthropological issues with some major sci-fi stories (especially Star Trek).

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DrizzitFan
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Posted - 29 Jul 2003 :  06:59:04  Show Profile  Visit DrizzitFan's Homepage Send DrizzitFan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Sage n MBlade.

Esp for the clarification of the Demons and Devils in their respective realms. That was good info. I still think a one-shot on Errtu might be a good read though.

Actually a series of Zhentarim/Zhentish figures and their rise to power may be of interest, your thoughts? Even the Cult of Dragons/Dracoliches has potential for development.
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Mythander
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Posted - 29 Jul 2003 :  15:28:52  Show Profile  Visit Mythander's Homepage Send Mythander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I for one would like to see more written about the Avarial. They finally put some info about them in Races of Faerun, but all we had in 2ned was one lonely page at the very back of the Complete Book of Elves. I think an avian character could open up some interesting plot lines.

Wow! That has no saving throw written all over it.

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The Sage
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Posted - 30 Jul 2003 :  06:48:53  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
While I was reading through Monsters of Faerun this morning, I came to read over two curious sub-types of the Dwarves that I think would make a particularly interesting story for monstrous characters. That of the Innugaakalikurit, or Artic Dwarves, and the Wild Dwarves of Chult. Considering the differences of the 'Wild' natures between elves and dwarves, I think they would indeed provide an interesting perspective on the Dwarven race as a whole.


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Mythander
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Posted - 30 Jul 2003 :  15:50:47  Show Profile  Visit Mythander's Homepage Send Mythander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sage of Perth

While I was reading through Monsters of Faerun this morning, I came to read over two curious sub-types of the Dwarves that I think would make a particularly interesting story for monstrous characters. That of the Innugaakalikurit, or Artic Dwarves, and the Wild Dwarves of Chult. Considering the differences of the 'Wild' natures between elves and dwarves, I think they would indeed provide an interesting perspective on the Dwarven race as a whole.



That is a very interesting though. I always have the picture in my mind of Dwarves as the gruff, but caring underneath figure. I think that the wild (untrusting) nature might change that a bit.


Wow! That has no saving throw written all over it.
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Nocturno
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Posted - 31 Jul 2003 :  00:08:16  Show Profile  Visit Nocturno's Homepage Send Nocturno a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mythander

quote:
Originally posted by Sage of Perth

While I was reading through Monsters of Faerun this morning, I came to read over two curious sub-types of the Dwarves that I think would make a particularly interesting story for monstrous characters. That of the Innugaakalikurit, or Artic Dwarves, and the Wild Dwarves of Chult. Considering the differences of the 'Wild' natures between elves and dwarves, I think they would indeed provide an interesting perspective on the Dwarven race as a whole.


ý think the most intrestþng moster will be a pc created monster maybe some onw can merge an elemental and a cat
That is a very interesting though. I always have the picture in my mind of Dwarves as the gruff, but caring underneath figure. I think that the wild (untrusting) nature might change that a bit.





ý think the most entertaining picture of momsters will be a goblin kind. if an individual who is among goblin kind and have some intelligence and wisdom unlike his or her genetics that one can help or create ptroblems for npcws.Though it is always an human for first name the second can be a goblin and this can be entertaining
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