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Kyrene
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 Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 07:42:20
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I'm referring of course to this latest offering from WizBro. While it's not being charged for under the DDI, it's certainly not new. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that bit of so-called 'new' D&D Fiction simply culled from the actual novel Crypt of the Moaning Diamond?
I will await some replies before making my point...
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 16:55:02
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| -These are indeed the characters from Crypt of the Moaning Diamond, and I do recall a section within said novel where they discuss a siege going awry due to pigs exploding, but not having read the novel recently, I can't tell you if that is an exact word-for-word copy of the discussion in the novel, or some new literature based on what was alluded to in the novel. My gut feeling is the first one, though. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 18:53:27
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I have read Crypt of the Moaning Diamond, and let me tell you that particular passage is NOT contained therein, though the incident is indeed mentioned in retrospect.
It would appear that WotC has published a free, online short story by Rosemary (noted as the author, see byline). I don't really *know*, but maybe she'll confirm.
Until then: Go Rosemary!
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Rosemary Jones
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 24 Nov 2008 : 23:44:43
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Hi all:
This is actually a prequel to Crypt that was written for the WOTC website about a year ago! It was scheduled to be published at the same time as Crypt but suffered the sad fate of being eaten by the bits and bytes of the website redesign. The editor and I tried to retrieve it several times, but, alas, the pigs never flew.
Until today.
And it is a complete surprise to me. I was going to put it down in my memoirs as phantom pig story.
So there you go, an early holiday present for you and me: Exploding Pigs!
Sorry all about the long silence on the forum. I've been polishing up City of the Dead for next June and packing up all my books for a move. The two thousand and then some volumes that form my library made it safely from point A to point B. But the movers did call my boxes "daunting." I said "Daunting was finding enough boxes for all this and getting it into the boxes."
Cheers all! |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 00:31:09
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-Rosemary how many books will be published under the Banner of Ed Greeenwood Presents: Waterdeep. I could have sworn that I heard around GenCon this year that around 40 or was it 4 novels would be published for this series. If you cant answer this question then thank you anyway. 
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will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
South Africa
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 07:09:11
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Originally posted by Rosemary Jones
This is actually a prequel to Crypt that was written for the WOTC website about a year ago! It was scheduled to be published at the same time as Crypt but suffered the sad fate of being eaten by the bits and bytes of the website redesign. The editor and I tried to retrieve it several times, but, alas, the pigs never flew.
Was it ever published in any form whatsoever? Either I'm becoming psychic, or I've read it before yesterday. SPOILER: Wiggles saving the day is something I recall.
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For reference: My point from aboveeven if unmadeis now moot.
I must concur with Erik: You go girl! |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 13:44:09
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Originally posted by Brimstone
-Rosemary how many books will be published under the Banner of Ed Greeenwood Presents: Waterdeep. I could have sworn that I heard around GenCon this year that around 40 or was it 4 novels would be published for this series. If you cant answer this question then thank you anyway.
BRIMSTONE
In the Secrets of the Forgotten Realms seminar, it was said by Ed (by mentioning how many books in the series he had read besides Mistshore and Blckstaff Tower) that there were at least 5, then he ribbed Rich about it being an open , never ending series , to which Rich just laughed. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 13:51:38
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Someone should post a link or something....
Oh, whats this?
Exploding Pigs!?!?
P.S. Very cool Rosemary,thanks for the story and thanks for the note.
You are very gracious and appreciative of your fans. Very cool, and very appreciated by us! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 15:23:13
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Someone should post a link or something....
And someone did.  |
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Brimstone
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 17:26:08
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
In the Secrets of the Forgotten Realms seminar, it was said by Ed (by mentioning how many books in the series he had read besides Mistshore and Blckstaff Tower) that there were at least 5, then he ribbed Rich about it being an open , never ending series , to which Rich just laughed.
-Thank you Red Walker.
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to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
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757 Posts |
Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 18:22:43
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Originally posted by The Sage
Kyrene actually included a link in his opening post. 
Although to be fair to Red, I was being rather subtle. I think my forum foo was just a little high while posting that OP.
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Pigs 'n all have now been duly PDF-erized and is forming part of my collection alongside such notables as And all the Sinners, Saints, Bloodline, That Time of the Tenday, The Bones of the Beast, The Way, Wayfarer, Wraith and Bold as Brass. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 18:43:44
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Originally posted by Kyrene
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Originally posted by The Sage
Kyrene actually included a link in his opening post.
Although to be fair to Red, I was being rather subtle. I think my forum foo was just a little high while posting that OP.
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Pigs 'n all have now been duly PDF-erized and is forming part of my collection alongside such notables as And all the Sinners, Saints, Bloodline, That Time of the Tenday, The Bones of the Beast, The Way, Wayfarer, Wraith and Bold as Brass.
What a sneaky shade of blue you used for that link!  |
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Hawkins
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 20:03:03
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| I found the short story quite enjoyable. Thanks Rosemary! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 23:07:16
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Someone should post a link or something....
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 25 Nov 2008 : 23:30:12
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Originally posted by The Sage
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Someone should post a link or something....
And someone did.
And someone already noted that as well.
Indeed. But my answer was more humorously stated than yours. That's what's important, here. |
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Rosemary Jones
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 05 Dec 2008 : 05:42:56
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It's so much fun reading everyone's comments! If "Pigs Explode" seems familiar, the Siegebreakers do refer to this episode more than once in the "Crypt of the Moaning Diamond." Which is why it is a "prequel" rather than a sequel. But this is the first and only time that it's been published as far as I know.
Right now, there's four books listed in the Ed Greenwood Presents: Waterdeep
Blackstaff Tower by Steven Schend
Mistshore by Jaleigh Johnson
Downshadow by Erik Scott de Bie
City of the Dead by me (because my books always seem to start with C in the FR Alphabet)
That's all I know. Sadly, I have failed as the fount of all knowledge or even a cheap oracle. But the cover for City of the Dead has appeared on Amazon and I think it looks great:
http://www.amazon.com/City-Dead-Greenwood-Presents-Waterdeep/dp/078695129X/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228455380&sr=1-5
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 05 Dec 2008 : 15:06:38
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I suspect that we haven't seen the full lineup of Waterdeep novels . . . but only time will tell.
I for one will certainly keep y'all informed when announcements are made, but usually someone on these boards totally beats me to the punch.
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Brynweir
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Posted - 06 Dec 2008 : 15:11:37
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| Just read the story - very amusing and great character detail squeezed into such a brief look. ::Sigh:: Now I simply MUST read the Crypt of the Moaning Diamond . |
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He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Dec 2008 : 14:29:12
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| Read it, it's a fun book. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 08 Dec 2008 : 18:21:55
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Read it, it's a fun book.
I concur!
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'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 09 Dec 2008 : 07:44:03
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Originally posted by Brynweir
Now I simply MUST read the Crypt of the Moaning Diamond .
Erik is going to hate me for saying this, but I personally found "Crypt" the best of the four The Dungeons novels. Then again, I found Ghostwalker the best of The Fighters, so take my personal opinion for what it's worth. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 09 Dec 2008 : 17:20:28
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Ah Kyrene, I could never hate you! C'mere, ya big softie . . . [sneak attack]
But seriously, folks--Crypt is a grand ol' time, and judging from the quality in that novel, City of the Dead's going to be a real smasher.
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
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Kyrene
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 10 Dec 2008 : 13:06:06
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
C'mere, ya big softie . . . [sneak attack]
Softie? Perhaps. Flat footed? Not this Rogue. *picks Erik's pocket during his attempt* |
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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 10 Dec 2008 : 15:02:47
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Darn all those skill points I didn't spend in Spot! :looks for wallet:
Speaking of rogues, Kid (a character in Crypt and in the Pigs Explode piece) is one of the best Realms rogues out there. I named one of the characters in my last FR convention game after him.
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'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
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Lord Karsus
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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 10 Dec 2008 : 20:11:50
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Is he a ling-ling rogue? (i.e., extremely short tiefling, perhaps child of a halfling-tiefling union, i.e. ling-ling)
And I think Rosemary's Kidd *is* spelled with two Ds. My mistake?
Cheers
EDIT: No, I had it right the first time. One D. |
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'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 10 Dec 2008 : 22:16:52
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-He? It's a she. I guess the "I'm a double 'D'" joke went right over your head?
-She's a Human Bard, actually. Very roguish, though. Very fun character. And, better yet, we've stumbled across the concept that, in parallel universes, there are other Kidds, with other alignments, with similar mannerisms, likes, dislikes, and so on. There's CG Kidd, a Robin Hood-like captain, there's CN Kidd, a self-centered swashbuckler from Sigil, there's CE Kidd, the dread pirate, the LG Kidd, commodore of the high seas, and so on... |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 11 Dec 2008 : 14:56:15
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| I'm *in* some of these games, and even I was unaware of that! |
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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 11 Dec 2008 : 16:32:49
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Wow, the *double D* joke was really not obvious to me at all.
(Is that a good thing that boob jokes sometimes go right over my head?)
And "Kid"/"Kidd" is really not a name one generally associates with female characters. It's totally cool, and all, but when I hear it I think of, like "Captain Kidd" and "Billy the Kid", etc.
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