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Misery
Acolyte
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 Posted - 23 Nov 2008 : 07:41:01
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Anyone else pick it up? I know this is getting AWFULLY close to that-which-shall-not-be-named but so far I'm kinda digging the feel of this one. I enjoyed NWN2's story and was ENTHRALLED by Mask of the Betrayer, but this seems to find its own thing in all of this. I don't think it will live up to how MotB was, but it might have a special place on my hardrive.
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Snotlord
Senior Scribe
Norway
476 Posts |
Posted - 23 Nov 2008 : 13:32:34
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I have not picked it up yet, but I am thrilled the game actually work again after the last patch after 6-9 months in Vista limbo. I'm gonna finish MotB before installing anything new to this game.
As for that-which-shall-not-be-named, new material like Storm of Zenhir may just be what the new realms needs. The fantastic Baldur's Gate II was what finally sold me on the Realms back in the day, after years of indifference on my part.
... so I am hopeful, if not optimistic. |
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
894 Posts |
Posted - 23 Nov 2008 : 15:02:22
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| What's the level range for the game? It says on the site that it's a mid-level based campaign. I take it you can start a character at the suggested level right away? All my current characters will be too much high level for this. |
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Misery
Acolyte
27 Posts |
Posted - 23 Nov 2008 : 15:42:58
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... can I still be a bad A and like kittens? |
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
894 Posts |
Posted - 30 Nov 2008 : 15:02:09
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I'm now level 8, and I think it's great! First, the NVN2 dialog system (where skill such as lore diplomacy and taunt could become an option if the character's skill was high enough) as been improved. Now, all your characters appear as small icons and they give you additional option. It depends mostly on skills, alignment and even on base class i.e. a druid will have the option to be pissed off on a quest to kill as many animals possible. In NWN, you always had a good/evil/lawful/chaotic/neutral option (most of the time) now you only have those of your character's alignement, and I think it adds to "role-play".
Second, the new world map system is awesome. It reminds me of old final fantasy's world map, but instead of random encounter, your skills such as listen ans spot allow you to discover the enemies before it's too late (and then if you wish to charge in, be my guest). You can see the ECL of the encounter above the encounter, so you can judge if it's too much for you. Even at Dungeon-hardcore difficulty, you should have no problem taking fights 3-4 levels above you if you know what you are doing. I think almost all your skills does something, so I won’t name them all, just play the game! 
Third, you cannot rest whenever/wherever you want anymore! That's right, no more 1-fight-then-I-take-5-seconds-to-get-all-hp-/-spells/back. You can rest a) at an inn, or b) outside on the world map, and yes, you might wake up with a troll above you. This finally makes combat a real strategy challenge. Remember in any BG/NWN how you felt when you entered an area where resting was impossible? I was like "Damn, now I have to THINK!" yup, no more just give everything you've got every fights, and that's a good thing IMO.
There is some more cool stuff. Volo is great, just like as how I pictured him from his Volo's guide series. After 6-7 hours of play-time, my highlight is: You enter a black market filled with illithids merchant (yes, you can try to shut the place down, I lasted two rounds). One of them is just mumbling to himself, and you learn that is crazy because he tried to read the mind of a god: Cyric, the prince of lies. If you talk to him again, what he actually mumbles is: Midnight falls... And death itself mourns. I let you try to discover what it means, it's brilliant.
Hint: Storm of Zehir is still in 3.5 ed, but is the bridge to 4th
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 01 Dec 2008 : 13:36:13
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 01 Dec 2008 : 15:14:36
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Originally posted by Kilvan
It depends mostly on skills, alignment and even on base class i.e. a druid will have the option to be pissed off on a quest to kill as many animals possible. In NWN, you always had a good/evil/lawful/chaotic/neutral option (most of the time) now you only have those of your character's alignement, and I think it adds to "role-play".
Some people would hate that, since it doesn't let your character change. Wouldn't particularly bother me, since I generally intend to be the alignment I choose at the beginning of the game.
Not to mention that I haven't always cared for CRPG interpretations of alignment--you are pretty much at the whim of what the designers think about it (and they might be wrong).
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Hint: Storm of Zehir is still in 3.5 ed, but is the bridge to 4th
That's reason enough for me to be a bit wary of rushing out to buy it. |
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
894 Posts |
Posted - 01 Dec 2008 : 15:32:06
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I think you must have detachment on the 4th ed part when it comes to video gaming. For the moment, I have absolutely no intention (or desire) of switching to 4th ed in my pen-and-paper gaming, and even less to use the 4th ed realms. As for video games, that's a different story. A good game is a good game, and the impact of the chosen setting is lessened. I love the NVN serie, even more than the BG's, and I think this one is no exception.
The only drawback for the moment is that the game will have poor development between you and your companions, since you actually are 4 of the 6 in the party.
Oh and by the way, I just encountered One of Many from MotB, he kicked my ass.
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 01 Dec 2008 : 23:13:35
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| I will probably buy it, even though I will not touch the 4e Realms (or 4e itself, but that is because of the 4e Realms, not the other way around). Especially if they capture a bit more of the feel of the BG series (like it is supposed to). |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 02 Dec 2008 : 00:33:11
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Originally posted by Kilvan
I think you must have detachment on the 4th ed part when it comes to video gaming. For the moment, I have absolutely no intention (or desire) of switching to 4th ed in my pen-and-paper gaming, and even less to use the 4th ed realms. As for video games, that's a different story. A good game is a good game, and the impact of the chosen setting is lessened. I love the NVN serie, even more than the BG's, and I think this one is no exception.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. Just to clarify, I have no problem with the 4E, just the 4E Realms setting (it's not for me). For the first time ever, I'm reluctant to pick up a new NWN game--although I know there's more to it than the included campaign--because I can't help but resist anything having to do with the Spellplague and the 4E Realms, even if all there is are allusions to it (and none-too-subtle ones, I must say). |
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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 02 Dec 2008 00:33:49 |
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Kilvan
Senior Scribe
Canada
894 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2008 : 23:17:09
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okay, has anyone made it to the final battle? It is im-po-ssi-ble. All my characters/cohorts are 17, I'm on hardcore difficulty, and it just can't be done. I won't give any details so I won't spoil it for you, but I want to know if anyone managed to do it, there must be a way (beside going out and leveling up a few times).
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mistervanni
Acolyte
Italy
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Posted - 30 Mar 2009 : 15:44:54
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hi, my first post!
i purchased long ago the nwn2 pack but got so stressed up by the camera and the movements of the party in the city of nw that i dropped it, i thought that the tthing was better run in the prequel (maybe was just being used to it...) then tried playing the MotB and got myself like: what the hell were thinking with the soul bar? is this like halo, just reverse?
to sum it up, i loved nwn and the 2 exp (and aribeth too!) but nwn2 disappointed me a bit, first time for a fr-games.
apart my personal issues, is storm of zehir worth playing and easy to control?
thanks
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Nefarious
Acolyte
USA
21 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jun 2009 : 15:48:20
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I'll have to pick this up. I loved MoTB and even the original NWN2.
Also - does anyone know if they've fixed the lag issues with NWN 2 online servers? They were pretty much unplayable last time I played (2008). |
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Sill Alias
Senior Scribe
Kazakhstan
588 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2010 : 09:56:34
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 12 Apr 2010 : 17:09:12
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Originally posted by Sill Alias
I will definitely install Storm of Zehir just for Doomguide. Kelemvor rules!
Heheh, once I get a computer that can run this game, I will have a Doomguide in my party as well. |
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Neverwinter Nights 2 - Storm of Zehir
