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Sian
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 Posted - 26 Nov 2008 : 16:36:13
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| also ... it should be noted that at least in RW the females in the Sarumai families is trained in Polearm and Knife use for defense of their estate while the men are off on missions, so it is reasonable to think that when the men are out of town the female part of the population sercetly gather in places with each other for training with their weapons of choice maybe even actually being better than men (maybe even from time to time meeting for training casually lying about it to be training in Tea ceremonies :p) |
what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month |
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Lemernis
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 : 20:08:45
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| Hmm, that's an interesting detail that women in a real life samurai family were trained in martial combat skills. No mention of that in the source book, I don't think. Just how much to borrow directly from real world historical Japan is pretty open-ended I guess. But I like the idea that women in those families can commonly be trained as fighters. |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Nov 2008 : 23:50:36
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-A plausible way to make the above-mentioned seppuku situation work: The child, believing itself to be a drain on the family, and thus, dishonoring the family, kills itself. Or, the child, being the recipient of "dishonor" by it's own family, will not suffer such dishonor, and kills itself in an honorable fashion.
-Taking some definitions to the extremes and such, but... |
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Sian
Senior Scribe
Denmark
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Posted - 27 Nov 2008 : 05:54:41
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| well Lemernis ... while the fact that they trained for defense is true it could easily be taken another step and saying that they did more training than they actually was demanded/needed to do and had another layer of secretcy with a Samurai group within and hidden from a known Samurai group :P |
what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month |
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see
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 27 Nov 2008 : 07:24:11
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Originally posted by Lemernis
I'm trying to decide how much of the cultural information presented in the section on Wa may be assumed to apply also to Kozakura. What do you all think?
1e Oriental Adventures has "An Overview of Kara-Tur" on pages 136-137. It says:
Kozakura ("Little Cherry Blossom") is inhabited by the same race of people as found on Wa and shares virtually the same customs and traditions.
So, almost everything should apply.
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Originally posted by Lemernis
Doesn't Kozakura seem almost superfluous? Maybe felt they they had too much material to fit into one land?
Kara-Tur was originally created by a single author for the 1e Oriental Adventures hardback as a sample setting. The paired empires of Shou Lung and T'u Lung, Wa and Kozakura, were specifically created to allow play in united/disunited China/Japan, all in the same brief setting. The Kara-Tur boxed set came several years later, and inherited the design decisions originally made for a briefly sketched sample setting. |
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Lemernis
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Posted - 27 Nov 2008 : 11:10:31
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Originally posted by see
1e Oriental Adventures has "An Overview of Kara-Tur" on pages 136-137. It says:
Kozakura ("Little Cherry Blossom") is inhabited by the same race of people as found on Wa and shares virtually the same customs and traditions.
So, almost everything should apply.
Perfect, just the sort of clarification in canon I was seeking, thanks! |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 27 Nov 2008 : 14:21:17
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Originally posted by Sian
well Lemernis ... while the fact that they trained for defense is true it could easily be taken another step and saying that they did more training than they actually was demanded/needed to do and had another layer of secretcy with a Samurai group within and hidden from a known Samurai group :P
This is interesting enough to be developed more.
I like the idea of 'silly women' meeting for Tea-cup training - little did those Samurai know they are using +3 tea cups! 
And even though that was a joke, many weapons from the Orient (and the west as well) were developed from simple, common items, mostly farm implements, but not always. One of interesting note were the Kanzashi - Hair pins - worn by women. Female Ninjas were trained in their use as weapons of assination (while posing as Geisha), so it wouldn't be too great a leap to see other Oriental women doing something similar with things at hand.
Fans, combs... even the Tea cup (remember Riddick?) could all become deadly weapons in the right hands.
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Sian
Senior Scribe
Denmark
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Posted - 27 Nov 2008 : 15:00:10
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| Mithril Fans and combs ... lethal when sharpened :p |
what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month |
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Pandora
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 27 Nov 2008 : 15:08:53
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Originally posted by Markustay
I like the idea of 'silly women' meeting for Tea-cup training - little did those Samurai know they are using +3 tea ups!
I have seen a japanese cook cut up a medium sized fish to be served without touching it. He used two "knives" which looked like swords (knife = 1 edge, sword = 2 edges at the blade). The whole thing was ritualized and looked very nice ... |
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Edited by - Pandora on 27 Nov 2008 15:09:39 |
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cultural differences between Kozakura and Wa?
