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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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 Posted - 20 Nov 2008 : 16:10:58
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"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 20 Nov 2008 : 18:25:27
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Originally posted by The Sage
Erik, do you mind if I borrow this and modify it slightly? We're presently revising the Candlekeep Code of Conduct for Candlekeep 2, and I'd like to add something like this to it.
Knock yourself out . . . though not literally! I, like many others in this thread in specific and on the boards in general, highly respect and appreciate the good work you admins/mods do on a daily basis--contending with all us Realmsian nuts! 
Also a general note to all those making an effort to police their posts keenly: Speaking for myself and I imagine for my fellow members, it's all very much appreciated.
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Originally posted by Markustay
Another big exception I think should be Ed's thread - [snip] that thread should be given at least slighty more leeway then most.
I do like to allow a certain amount of "off-topicness" in Ed's scroll, mostly because the Lady Hooded One herself enjoys a little subtle [and no-so-subtle  ] banter from time to time.
Agreed whole-heartedly. It's hard to get off topic when dealing with a man like Ed, whose mind encompasses several worlds and is equally active in all of them at all times . . . or his awesome messenger angel, THO.
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But it's when full-blown discussions start that have very little, if anything, to do with one of Ed's replys, that I have to step in and ask that the discussion be taken to another scroll.
Good call. 
I know that happens on my Sages scroll occasionally as well. Who are those masked rascals who keep bringing up mechwarrior?
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 20 Nov 2008 : 19:22:03
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Agreed whole-heartedly. It's hard to get off topic when dealing with a man like Ed, whose mind encompasses several worlds and is equally active in all of them at all times . . . or his awesome messenger angel, THO.
You mean hard not to get off-topic? |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 20 Nov 2008 : 22:44:33
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Also a general note to all those making an effort to police their posts keenly: Speaking for myself and I imagine for my fellow members, it's all very much appreciated.
Indeed. I've noticed this myself. Sometimes we Mods tend to miss things, so it's re-assuring to know that most scribes here are vigilant enough to maintain their own posts at times.
Additionally, I'd also like to thank those scribes who occasionally alert us to troublesome posts or scribes causing problems in other scrolls. I won't name any particular members of Candlekeep, but know that your efforts are greatly appreciated.
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Agreed whole-heartedly. It's hard to get off topic when dealing with a man like Ed, whose mind encompasses several worlds and is equally active in all of them at all times . . . or his awesome messenger angel, THO.
Heh. I just find it difficult trying to keep on track whenever the Lady Hooded One is around!
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I know that happens on my Sages scroll occasionally as well. Who are those masked rascals who keep bringing up mechwarrior?
Wooly strikes again! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36876 Posts |
Posted - 20 Nov 2008 : 23:01:06
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
I know that happens on my Sages scroll occasionally as well. Who are those masked rascals who keep bringing up mechwarrior?
Wooly strikes again!
Typical Cappie response: blame the Davions for your own shortcomings! |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 21 Nov 2008 : 00:06:35
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-Wow so this topic on going off topic, goes off topic.  Sorry about some of my off topic banter, I am used to the way another forum works. 
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 21 Nov 2008 : 02:45:02
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
You mean hard not to get off-topic?
I mean that in that scroll, the topic sort of has a tendency to expand to include all potential topics.
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Genis
Learned Scribe
USA
226 Posts |
Posted - 21 Nov 2008 : 11:13:45
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| I'm suprised I haven't been assasinated here yet for any spamming or off topicness...the mods do do a great job, and I frequent a certain Halomovieonline forum in which I got banned a few days from. I was bored one night at like 4 am so I "spammed" a whole lot, which means I replied to very old and forgotten topcs, and made some apparently rude jokes |
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Genis
Learned Scribe
USA
226 Posts |
Posted - 21 Nov 2008 : 11:15:00
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 21 Nov 2008 : 14:58:47
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
You mean hard not to get off-topic?
I mean that in that scroll, the topic sort of has a tendency to expand to include all potential topics.
Cheers
Ah, I see. And I agree. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Eremite
Learned Scribe
Singapore
182 Posts |
Posted - 30 Nov 2008 : 06:26:43
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 30 Nov 2008 : 19:34:36
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Is there an echo in here?
Anyhow, to bring this back On-Topic (even though I've already said my peace), I think we have the PERFECT balance of right now. We do keep it somewhat light-hearted, while not sinking into idiocy.
Thats not an easy line to walk, and I once-again commend the mods for the precarious balance they are able to somehow maintain. |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2009 : 00:54:51
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Agreed whole-heartedly. It's hard to get off topic when dealing with a man like Ed, whose mind encompasses several worlds and is equally active in all of them at all times . . . or his awesome messenger angel, THO.
You mean hard not to get off-topic?
I don't know which is funnier, you catching Sage's faux pas.......or him ignoring you doing so |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2009 : 04:11:46
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Agreed whole-heartedly. It's hard to get off topic when dealing with a man like Ed, whose mind encompasses several worlds and is equally active in all of them at all times . . . or his awesome messenger angel, THO.
You mean hard not to get off-topic?
I don't know which is funnier, you catching Sage's faux pas.......or him ignoring you doing so
What did I miss? |
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
762 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2009 : 10:10:51
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Kuje
there does, to me, seem to be a lot more off topic or one line comments in many threads lately, making it annoying to read through some threads.
Heh. Indeed, I've noticed a slight increase in this myself. [Though, sometimes, I've been just as responsible for said off-topicness].
How do other scribes feel about this issue?
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I don't mind it when a thread goes off-topic. I either stop reading or skim to where it picks up. Nearly every culture I've met likes humour so it's not surprising that one-liners appear in conversations. Conversations, as Nerfed2Hell said, are organic. They can and do wander.
Generally, I think the moderators do a great job nudging threads back on-topic. It's a light touch, which means things don't wander too far away from topic but ensures that conversation doesn't get killed.
Overly moderated boards tend to die because posters feel that they can't talk so they go where they can.
I've yet to have a real life conversation where we didn't go off-topic with witty asides. In most cases we quickly return to topic. |
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Revenge is Forgiveness
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2009 : 13:24:07
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Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
Generally, I think the moderators do a great job nudging threads back on-topic. It's a light touch, which means things don't wander too far away from topic but ensures that conversation doesn't get killed.
Overly moderated boards tend to die because posters feel that they can't talk so they go where they can.
That's a good point, and one I've long tried to maintain when moderating certain discussions here at Candlekeep. Sometimes I feel it's appropriate to simply let a brief period of "off-topicness" run its course. Its fun, and sometimes it generates something new that can be added to the ongoing topical discussion. Other times, I have to step in -- either quickly or frequently -- to prevent the off-topicness from spinning out of control.
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ranger_of_the_unicorn_run
Learned Scribe
USA
292 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2009 : 14:26:36
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Originally posted by The Sage
That's a good point, and one I've long tried to maintain when moderating certain discussions here at Candlekeep. Sometimes I feel it's appropriate to simply let a brief period of "off-topicness" run its course. Its fun, and sometimes it generates something new that can be added to the ongoing topical discussion. Other times, I have to step in -- either quickly or frequently -- to prevent the off-topicness from spinning out of control.
I think you do a good job of deciding when to stop the off-topicness and when to let it run it's course. I know I go off topic a lot, but the few times you have stopped it, it seemed appropriate when you did. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36876 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2009 : 15:39:20
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Originally posted by The Sage
That's a good point, and one I've long tried to maintain when moderating certain discussions here at Candlekeep. Sometimes I feel it's appropriate to simply let a brief period of "off-topicness" run its course. Its fun, and sometimes it generates something new that can be added to the ongoing topical discussion. Other times, I have to step in -- either quickly or frequently -- to prevent the off-topicness from spinning out of control.
That's pretty much been my stance, too. Especially since I'm as prone to wandering off topic as anyone else! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36876 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2009 : 15:42:33
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Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
Overly moderated boards tend to die because posters feel that they can't talk so they go where they can.
I'm only active on two forums, but I almost left the other one because of a moderator. He wasn't modding too much, but what he was doing was abusing his moderator status. When he changed one of my posts to reflect his opinions, I went ballistic. The fact that the site owner and one of the other mods on that site worked with me over the whole issue is the only reason I stayed. I still can't stand that particular moderator, though. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2009 : 16:18:12
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A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
762 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2009 : 16:29:51
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Originally posted by The Sage
That's a good point, and one I've long tried to maintain when moderating certain discussions here at Candlekeep. Sometimes I feel it's appropriate to simply let a brief period of "off-topicness" run its course. Its fun, and sometimes it generates something new that can be added to the ongoing topical discussion. Other times, I have to step in -- either quickly or frequently -- to prevent the off-topicness from spinning out of control.
A moderator is like a chairman/woman at a meeting. They encourage debate but make sure that the points of the meeting are discussed. |
Death is Life
Love is Hate
Revenge is Forgiveness
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
762 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2009 : 16:31:19
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
I like how this topic has drifted to a lovefest for the Mods
There's nothing wrong with telling people we appreciate them. Especially since they do this for free.
Besides, they're more likely to let us go off-topic if we're nice to them. |
Death is Life
Love is Hate
Revenge is Forgiveness
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36876 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2009 : 16:33:04
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
I like how this topic has drifted to a lovefest for the Mods
I see nothing wrong with that. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36876 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2009 : 16:34:13
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Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
I like how this topic has drifted to a lovefest for the Mods
There's nothing wrong with telling people we appreciate them. Especially since they do this for free.
Besides, they're more likely to let us go off-topic if we're nice to them.
Ah, the cunning plan is revealed!
Carry on! |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2009 : 16:39:06
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Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
I like how this topic has drifted to a lovefest for the Mods
There's nothing wrong with telling people we appreciate them. Especially since they do this for free.
Besides, they're more likely to let us go off-topic if we're nice to them.
Are you assuming I was being sarcastic?
And as for doing this for free....they get a key to the CDG dormitory way before we can earn one |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
762 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2009 : 20:10:51
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Are you assuming I was being sarcastic?
Me? Oh no, never. |
Death is Life
Love is Hate
Revenge is Forgiveness
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2009 : 22:55:43
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'm only active on two forums, but I almost left the other one because of a moderator. He wasn't modding too much, but what he was doing was abusing his moderator status. When he changed one of my posts to reflect his opinions, I went ballistic. The fact that the site owner and one of the other mods on that site worked with me over the whole issue is the only reason I stayed. I still can't stand that particular moderator, though.
I recall that incident. And it's something similar to what I've experienced on the CBT boards as well. Though I brought the matter to the head site admin and the moderator eventually lost his status because of what he did to some of my posts. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 03 Feb 2009 : 22:57:18
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Originally posted by Kiaransalyn
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Originally posted by The Sage
That's a good point, and one I've long tried to maintain when moderating certain discussions here at Candlekeep. Sometimes I feel it's appropriate to simply let a brief period of "off-topicness" run its course. Its fun, and sometimes it generates something new that can be added to the ongoing topical discussion. Other times, I have to step in -- either quickly or frequently -- to prevent the off-topicness from spinning out of control.
A moderator is like a chairman/woman at a meeting. They encourage debate but make sure that the points of the meeting are discussed.
Aye. But the chairperson usually doesn't make a habit of entering new off-topic points into a debate -- like some of the Mods here at Candlekeep. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2009 : 09:14:33
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Feb 2009 : 09:47:28
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So... who can tell me who it was that played bass on the Elvis Costello song Veronica?
Well, assuming it really is him, I would say Paul McCartney.
Of course, the real debate in the music world is Anette Olzon or Tarja Turunen. 
Getting back on-topic, how does your post relate to threads going off-topic? |
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