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arry
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 14 Oct 2008 : 17:28:52
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Poll Question:
Do you intend using the post-Spellplague Realms? Either now or in the future, rules-as-written, house ruled or home-brew.
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Edited by - arry on 14 Oct 2008 17:29:39
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arry
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
317 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2008 : 17:37:39
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I would like to know what proportion of Candlekeep scribes will be using the 4e FR and what proportion won't.
I am not very interested in what is 'better', whatever that is, just the proportional interest. |
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Baragon Geddarm
Acolyte
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Posted - 14 Oct 2008 : 18:07:04
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| I've bought the books and may have pieces out of it. But I may go with my own timeline using changes like I mentioned in a previous scroll |
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Icelander
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 14 Oct 2008 : 18:14:38
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At the present, I have no need for a new campaign setting.
I understand that WotC claims that their new campaign setting is set in the same world as the Forgotten Realms, but after analysis of the materials, I can see little evidence of that. There are superficial similarities, sure, but it seems that these extend only to the names of polities and an NPC or two. The two campaign settings appear to be targeted at vastly different demographics and I regret to say that I find little in common with WotC's target audience. |
Za uspiekh nashevo beznadiozhnovo diela!
Forgotten Realms fans, please sign a petition to re-release the FR Interactive Atlas
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Nerfed2Hell
Senior Scribe
USA
387 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2008 : 18:16:52
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Even if I were to make the switch to D&D $e, I would continue from the Realms as they were at the end of 3e rather than adopt the ill-concieved changes that came with the 100 year shift and other nonsense.
But, I am sticking with 3e and when the campaign hits 1385, things will proceed in a business as usual fashion. No more RSEs. |
Some people are like a slinky... not good for much, but when you push them down the stairs, it makes you smile. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3248 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2008 : 18:37:57
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Hi guys! Fancy seeing you here! 
Much like those above me, the new Realms are not my Realms.
Ironically, Ed's been saying for years how everyone's Realms are different, but it took something like this to make everyone go off on their own idea of what's best. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
Ashe's Character Sheet
Alphabetized Index of Realms NPCs |
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BARDOBARBAROS
Senior Scribe
Greece
581 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2008 : 19:17:51
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BARDOBARBAROS DOES NOT KILL.
HE DECAPITATES!!!
"The city changes, but the fools within it remain always the same" (Edwin Odesseiron- Baldur's gate 2) |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2008 : 02:25:58
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| yep I will use the spellplague in my realms, because it is interesting to me. |
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Nerfed2Hell
Senior Scribe
USA
387 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2008 : 04:17:10
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| Congrats for daring to defy convention and go with the new, unpopular thing. I won't fault you for it, scererar... I'll just never join you in your opinion. |
Some people are like a slinky... not good for much, but when you push them down the stairs, it makes you smile. |
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GRYPHON
Senior Scribe
USA
527 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2008 : 05:05:05
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| Possibly... |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2008 : 05:09:14
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quote:
Originally posted by Nerfed2Hell
Congrats for daring to defy convention and go with the new, unpopular thing. I won't fault you for it, scererar... I'll just never join you in your opinion.
to each his own my friend  |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
2285 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2008 : 10:05:57
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Originally posted by scererar
quote:
Originally posted by Nerfed2Hell
Congrats for daring to defy convention and go with the new, unpopular thing. I won't fault you for it, scererar... I'll just never join you in your opinion.
to each his own my friend
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why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
My FR fan fiction
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2008 : 18:52:44
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| Does possibly using Returned Abeir in a different setting count as "yes"? Overall, I dislike the new setting, so I'm reluctant to vote "yes" just for that. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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arry
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
317 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2008 : 18:59:16
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From my own personal point of view I would say that counted as a 'no'. Could be because I'm planning on doing the same thing myself  |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2008 : 19:56:11
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quote:
Originally posted by arry
From my own personal point of view I would say that counted as a 'no'. Could be because I'm planning on doing the same thing myself
Then I'll vote "no". |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Dewaint
Learned Scribe
Germany
148 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2008 : 21:17:58
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No Shattered Realms in my Realms. Eventually I 'll adopt some lore if my players will ever be around 1380 DR, but no Spellplague. At the moment we are in summer 1369DR.
Ah, BTW: no timejump either |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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Nerfed2Hell
Senior Scribe
USA
387 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2008 : 21:50:06
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Alone? But there's 5 other people who answered the same as you.
That's enough for a game group! |
Some people are like a slinky... not good for much, but when you push them down the stairs, it makes you smile. |
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arry
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
317 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2008 : 21:51:04
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| If you look at the results, you are not alone. So far, not in the majority, but what does that matter. If you are having fun playing in whatever version of the Realms I don't think that anything else matters. |
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TwigB
Acolyte
South Africa
46 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2008 : 21:52:21
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Originally posted by Fillow
I answered YES witout any hesitation... and I feel alone... 
I'm with you. But no need to feel alone, there are plenty of players out there who use the Post-Spellplague realms. I know quite a lot of people who love the new realms |
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Tyranthraxus
Senior Scribe
Netherlands
423 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2008 : 23:58:22
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| I voted yes. The players in my group are relativly new to the Realms and D&D as a whole. They don't have alot of the AD&D and 3.X resources I have, so making a fresh start with a "new" campaign setting isn't bad because everything that happened before the Spellplague isn't important. But we're not starting with 4E untill we're done with our current campaign. |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2008 : 01:46:37
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| There are many folks who dig FR 4E. However, Candlekeep scribes do not fit in this boat for the most part in my opinion. So, any polls pertaining to 4e are biased by the participants here and basically self proven before they even begin.(again, in my opinion) |
Edited by - scererar on 16 Oct 2008 01:47:13 |
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Icelander
Master of Realmslore
1864 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2008 : 02:42:56
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quote:
Originally posted by scererar
There are many folks who dig FR 4E. However, Candlekeep scribes do not fit in this boat for the most part in my opinion. So, any polls pertaining to 4e are biased by the participants here and basically self proven before they even begin.(again, in my opinion)
Of course. Candlekeep mostly attracts scribes who know and love the Forgotten Realms and that was decidedly not the target demographic of the new Realms.
The new Realms are targeted at people who didn't like the previous Realms, don't want to be bothered with history and don't want any more complexity in adventures than 'Shar is evil and all evil obeys her. That guy is a priest of Shar and hanging out in a dungeon with his level-appropriate challenge buddies, kill him and take his stuff.'
Then they drop phat l00tz. |
Za uspiekh nashevo beznadiozhnovo diela!
Forgotten Realms fans, please sign a petition to re-release the FR Interactive Atlas
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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kysus
Learned Scribe
USA
116 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2008 : 05:23:10
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| i choose to go with "no" on this one do to the varies changes in the game system and the varies changes in the world it self that reminds me to much of another game world itself. i plan on my games keeping as close to the 2nd and or 3e games as i can. |
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
688 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2008 : 05:35:35
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| I play 3.5 Realms and 4.0 Realms. I love the fore but the latter is fun too, albeit nothing compared to the first. Have fun and play D&D is what I say! |
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arry
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
317 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2008 : 11:21:25
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quote:
Originally posted by scererar
There are many folks who dig FR 4E. However, Candlekeep scribes do not fit in this boat for the most part in my opinion. So, any polls pertaining to 4e are biased by the participants here and basically self proven before they even begin.(again, in my opinion)
I quite agree scererar. I'm not trying to 'prove' anything about 4e, merely trying to find out what the feeling is as far as Candlekeep is concerned. The 4e Realms is still the Realms, I just want some quantitative data as opposed to qualitative. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2008 : 16:33:03
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quote:
Originally posted by arry
If you look at the results, you are not alone. So far, not in the majority, but what does that matter. If you are having fun playing in whatever version of the Realms I don't think that anything else matters.
Yes, of course. You like what you like, you know? Just enjoy it. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
3746 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2008 : 17:11:12
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quote:
Originally posted by scererar
There are many folks who dig FR 4E. However, Candlekeep scribes do not fit in this boat for the most part in my opinion. So, any polls pertaining to 4e are biased by the participants here and basically self proven before they even begin.(again, in my opinion)
-It provides tangible data that can be used. Rather than saying, "I think most people here don't like X", you can now say, "According to this poll, Y percentage doesn't like X". |
(A Tri-Partite Arcanist Who Has Forgotten More Than Most Will Ever Know)
Elves of Faerūn
Vol I- The Elves of Faerūn
Vol. III- Spells of the Elves
Vol. VI- Mechanical Compendium |
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TwigB
Acolyte
South Africa
46 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2008 : 23:30:08
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quote:
Originally posted by Icelander
quote:
Originally posted by scererar
There are many folks who dig FR 4E. However, Candlekeep scribes do not fit in this boat for the most part in my opinion. So, any polls pertaining to 4e are biased by the participants here and basically self proven before they even begin.(again, in my opinion)
Of course. Candlekeep mostly attracts scribes who know and love the Forgotten Realms and that was decidedly not the target demographic of the new Realms.
The new Realms are targeted at people who didn't like the previous Realms, don't want to be bothered with history and don't want any more complexity in adventures than 'Shar is evil and all evil obeys her. That guy is a priest of Shar and hanging out in a dungeon with his level-appropriate challenge buddies, kill him and take his stuff.'
Then they drop phat l00tz.
Hmmm...thats strange. I must be a bizarre breed of realms fan then since I like..no loved the previous realms. At some stage I was mocked by my party for knowing more realms history than ACTUAL history. I made my adventures very complex, filled with all sorts of intrigues and sub plots sometimes having no fights or phat l00tz at all.
All this and yet somehow, I still love 4th ed realms, Spellplague and all ...How can this be...maybe my condition can be treated with a prolonged stay in the isolation ward  |
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 16 Oct 2008 : 23:59:40
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quote:
Originally posted by Icelander
quote:
Originally posted by scererar
There are many folks who dig FR 4E. However, Candlekeep scribes do not fit in this boat for the most part in my opinion. So, any polls pertaining to 4e are biased by the participants here and basically self proven before they even begin.(again, in my opinion)
Of course. Candlekeep mostly attracts scribes who know and love the Forgotten Realms and that was decidedly not the target demographic of the new Realms.
The new Realms are targeted at people who didn't like the previous Realms, don't want to be bothered with history and don't want any more complexity in adventures than 'Shar is evil and all evil obeys her. That guy is a priest of Shar and hanging out in a dungeon with his level-appropriate challenge buddies, kill him and take his stuff.'
Then they drop phat l00tz.
 That's exactly how I see it. As others have already noted, the 4E rulebooks and Realms books read like computer game manuals. I hate reading computer manuals, whether for software or otherwise, and I'm a computer technician. For me, the 4E books made gaming seem like work, but that may be because of my career and how much I prefer lore over mechanics.
Anyway, as you have probably guessed by now, I voted no. Not even a little bit. I'm actually rewinding some of the events of 1374 and 1375 in my Realms. Anyway, even I'm growing weary of this debate, and it's settling in as apathy over the Realms in general... which may be what Wizbro is aiming for, to get us ready for the next setting... which I won't be buying either. As of the GHotR, I'm done with new commercial FR products until we get a timeline rollback like the one rumored to be coming down the pipe for Greyhawk 4E. I don't care whether it's to 1357, 1375, or some point in between, as long as it happens. 
[edit] To those who enjoy the new setting: Have fun with it, because, as has been said many times since this whole debate began, having fun is what it's all about. |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
Edited by - Jakk on 17 Oct 2008 00:02:50 |
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