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Stout Heart
Learned Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 01:19:07
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I'm really bad at looking for things as well as reading the fine print so I figured I would ask. Is it just me or is there no mention of them in 4E what so ever? Do I play them as reformed drow like I would normally play one of the masked lady's faithful? Have the gained or loss any racial traits like a hit or bonus to charisma?
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 02:31:40
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it is just you  The 4E FRCG and FRPG both detail Drow. The FRPG even details Drow out as a FR player race |
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GoCeraf
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 02:43:57
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| I think he's referring to Dark Elves, not Drow. They're a separate race now. If you wanna play Drow, all you need is the Monster Manual. As for the separate race, I'm not sure. You may just want to play them as normal elves. |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 02:51:34
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Originally posted by GoCeraf
I think he's referring to Dark Elves, not Drow. They're a separate race now. If you wanna play Drow, all you need is the Monster Manual. As for the separate race, I'm not sure. You may just want to play them as normal elves.
Ahh, I forgot about the lady penitent (sp?) trilogy that caused this change. |
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Stout Heart
Learned Scribe
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 03:00:14
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| Yea I saw the section on the drow lol he's right I was talking about the new race of dark elves brown skinned like wild elves. I know far to much about the drow already. |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 03:19:25
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| Well, going through the FRPG nd FRCG, it appears that Dark Elves and Drow are used to mean the same thing. |
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Stout Heart
Learned Scribe
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 04:46:39
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Originally posted by scererar
Well, going through the FRPG nd FRCG, it appears that Dark Elves and Drow are used to mean the same thing.
your right it did but I wasnt sure what else to call them and I was looking for some info on the new subrace. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 13:27:09
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| I really wonder why such a major change is NOT mentioned anywhere in the 4E books (like it never happened). |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 14:21:55
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Originally posted by Alisttair
I really wonder why such a major change is NOT mentioned anywhere in the 4E books (like it never happened).
I agree. There's been some discussion about this on the WotC forums (that is, what race "dark elves" should be), but I'm not sure that there's been any consensus. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 16:06:20
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Alisttair
I really wonder why such a major change is NOT mentioned anywhere in the 4E books (like it never happened).
I agree. There's been some discussion about this on the WotC forums (that is, what race "dark elves" should be), but I'm not sure that there's been any consensus.
Precisely. I don't visit the WoTC forums anymore (partly because their site is blocked at my job) so I never got in this discussion.
But yeah, I wonder what exactly they would classify "Dark elves" as, wether born again surface elves or Drow with a different look. |
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Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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Stout Heart
Learned Scribe
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 17:27:42
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Originally posted by Alisttair
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Alisttair
I really wonder why such a major change is NOT mentioned anywhere in the 4E books (like it never happened).
I agree. There's been some discussion about this on the WotC forums (that is, what race "dark elves" should be), but I'm not sure that there's been any consensus.
Precisely. I don't visit the WoTC forums anymore (partly because their site is blocked at my job) so I never got in this discussion.
But yeah, I wonder what exactly they would classify "Dark elves" as, wether born again surface elves or Drow with a different look.
Spoiler warning
At the end of the LP trilogy Corellon Larethian steps in after Eilistraee's death put his blade to Lolth's neck and lays claim to them as a surface race. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 18:06:35
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Originally posted by Stout Heart
Spoiler warning
At the end of the LP trilogy Corellon Larethian steps in after Eilistraee's death put his blade to Lolth's neck and lays claim to them as a surface race.
Yeah I know, but how it's reflected in game terms is what I am wondering. |
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Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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Stout Heart
Learned Scribe
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 18:33:52
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| I say we go over to WOTC and get em all drunk until they start talking. it's the dwarven thing to do. |
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Stout Heart
Learned Scribe
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 20:28:27
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| As much as I hate it I'm hoping as more 4e source books are released there will be more info on the darkelves. Or at least a little tab that says the undrow make it work. |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 20:49:57
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Originally posted by Stout Heart
I say we go over to WOTC and get em all drunk until they start talking. it's the dwarven thing to do.
yes lets, but remember its the elven thing to do to be the sober driver afterwards. |
why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
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Zanan
Senior Scribe
Germany
942 Posts |
Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 22:48:28
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Originally posted by scererar
Well, going through the FRPG nd FRCG, it appears that Dark Elves and Drow are used to mean the same thing.
That's the problem when novel designers and game/lore designers suffer some communication problem. Obviously, the drow in 4E are nothing but *insert any other playable race* with a racial power (I can clearly envisage every good aligned drow player taking full usage of his or (unlikely) her Lolthtouched abilities without any compunctions.  ). And while I am at it, it would have been a good idea not simply telling a player (or DM) what it means to be a drow character from the latter's point of view, but also telling him/her that the world about him/her might not take his/her appearance in their stride. ... Then again, it looks like no-one will take notice if a bunch of "adventurers" walks into a town, like a horn-headed (not exactly but closely looking like a fiend) tiefling, a flame-headed genasi and a drow warrior. Why should they? |
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