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Ardashir
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Posted - 20 Aug 2008 :  00:43:50  Show Profile  Visit Ardashir's Homepage Send Ardashir a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Just would like to know, where can I find further information on Ghaunadar beyond the Faiths and Pantheons book?

I'm guessing that 2nd Ed books like Drow of the Underdark and Demihuman Deities would have more information, but what about more fluff? Aside from crazy drow, who worships him? And what does he demand of his worshippers? Between the sacrifice rules in Book of Vile Darkness & what it says about old Ghauny in F&P, he sounds like a divine slot machine -- kill enough people on his altar and he gives you whatever goodies you want.

What other books have info on the Lord of Slime?

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Posted - 20 Aug 2008 :  01:23:42  Show Profile  Visit MerrikCale's Homepage Send MerrikCale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
actually, he is one of the greater gods in 4e

the last book in the Lady Pentinent series had some info




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The Sage
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The 2e Drow of the Underdark and Demihuman Deities are indeed the best sources of info on Ghaunadaur.

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Posted - 20 Aug 2008 :  05:38:31  Show Profile  Visit Ayunken-vanzan's Homepage Send Ayunken-vanzan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Evermeet, Island of Elves features Ghaunadaur in some of the first chapters.

And take also a look at this scroll.

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Zanan
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Posted - 20 Aug 2008 :  09:13:35  Show Profile  Visit Zanan's Homepage Send Zanan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Prime source is and will most likely remain for some time is indeed Demihuman Deities.

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Posted - 21 Aug 2008 :  23:42:28  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Agreed, though the new 4e FRCS has a few paragraphs of Ghaunadar coverage. I still have a copy of Ed's original design notes (he created Ghaunadar out of Gary's unnamed "Elder Elemental God" from the original Greyhawk material) somewhere, but I suspect they're covered by my NDA (as in: I can't share). Sorry.
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The Sage
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Indeed. As I recall, the Elder Elemental God was introduced, by Gygax, in G3 Hall of the Fire Giant King. And as Ghaunadaur, by Ed, in FOR2 The Drow of the Underdark.

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Zanan
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Has there been any reason about the ranking of the deities given in the FRCG? I mean, Ghaunadaur - who had few devouted worshippers at the best of times - being elevated from Lesser to Greater status would require some explanation beyond some fluff, wouldn't it? Unless ... half the lore on deity ranking that came about after Faiths & Avatars and Faiths & Pantheons is being neglected.

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quote:
Originally posted by Zanan

Has there been any reason about the ranking of the deities given in the FRCG? I mean, Ghaunadaur - who had few devouted worshippers at the best of times - being elevated from Lesser to Greater status would require some explanation beyond some fluff, wouldn't it?



Yes, that boggles my mind a bit, as well.

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Na-Gang
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quote:
Originally posted by Zanan

Has there been any reason about the ranking of the deities given in the FRCG? I mean, Ghaunadaur - who had few devouted worshippers at the best of times - being elevated from Lesser to Greater status would require some explanation beyond some fluff, wouldn't it? Unless ... half the lore on deity ranking that came about after Faiths & Avatars and Faiths & Pantheons is being neglected.



The 4E FRCS states that he's now revered by the Abolethic Sovereignty, which might explain why the designers felt he should be a Greater God.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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The 4E FRCS states that he's now revered by the Abolethic Sovereignty, which might explain why the designers felt he should be a Greater God.



It certainly does. ()

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Ayunken-vanzan
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Let's hope he is a little bit more careful with his new worshippers this time.

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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 28 Aug 2008 :  00:20:04  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan

Let's hope he is a little bit more careful with his new worshippers this time.


No, no, NO! We are the ones who want it to be careless with its worshipers. At least, I hope that we do.

Da Big G is also featured in Lords of Madness (page 177), where its domains are Chaos, Corruption, Evil, and Hatred, and its favored weapon is the warhammer. ("I'm not making this up, you know!"). For those who have the (real) Player's Guide to Faerun, he also has the domains of Chaos, Destruction, Evil, Force and Madness. To have nine domains it must be a mighty powerful deity (or else it has no social life and can afford to take the Extra Domain Salient Divine Ability).






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Posted - 28 Aug 2008 :  08:37:25  Show Profile  Visit BARDOBARBAROS's Homepage Send BARDOBARBAROS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zanan

Has there been any reason about the ranking of the deities given in the FRCG? I mean, Ghaunadaur - who had few devouted worshippers at the best of times - being elevated from Lesser to Greater status would require some explanation beyond some fluff, wouldn't it?



I agree with all my heart, but i think that in 4th edition there will be a lot of things without "some explanation"!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen

quote:
Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan

Let's hope he is a little bit more careful with his new worshippers this time.


No, no, NO! We are the ones who want it to be careless with its worshipers. At least, I hope that we do.



Um ... you are right, of course. Mindless, drooling aboleths ... sounds right ...

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