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Tyranthraxus
Senior Scribe
Netherlands
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 Posted - 15 Aug 2008 : 14:53:16
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| Hmm the new Realms are dark times indeed, if our most beloved heroes have died or are in hiding. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 15 Aug 2008 : 19:40:40
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Thanks for the information.
Most welcome. I'm going to be doing some kind of review of all the new stuff sometime today on my live journal. |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
The original and unapologetic Arilyn, Aribeth, Seoni Fanboy. |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
879 Posts |
Posted - 31 Aug 2008 : 18:12:03
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Originally posted by Fillow
I read in the FRCG that one nearly needs to be an exarch to become a Chosen.
My question is an non-English-language born scribe ! I try to write about the new Chosen in a French website but I cannot translate the word "exarch", even if I understand what it is.
My question is : How could I translate it in to French language ?
Could someone give a synomym term ?
Could a Canadian scribe help me ?
Thanks a lot.
Well, I'm not a Canadian (though I sometimes wear a maple leaf flag on my backpack when traveling abroad these days ), but I'd just go with demi-dieu. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
3308 Posts |
Posted - 31 Aug 2008 : 18:27:48
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
1608 Posts |
Posted - 31 Aug 2008 : 18:33:28
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Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe
[quote]Well, I'm not a Canadian (though I sometimes wear a maple leaf flag on my backpack when traveling abroad these days ), but I'd just go with demi-dieu.
Thanks Christopher.
So obvious ?
I was afraid of someone saying that ! Is ther not any difference between an exarch an a "half-god" ?
FRCG are said to be "divine servants of the gods". That's why I did not want to call them "half-god", while they serve gods.
Do you see what I mean ?
So, why "exarch" ? is ther an etymologic meaning ?
Or is it a figment as many other Fantasy names ?
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"Today is a good day to smile",
Fillow Big'n'Book Mahlemiut 'Lead-dog', Son of Garl, Wanderer of the Masked Leaf and Namer of Oghma.
- Fight in the arena and have fun ! : La brute.com
- Feel free to take part to these projects : Post-Spellplague bibliography ; 4E index project ; Taverns and inns of the Realms ; Dogs of the Realms ; Descriptions of places in the novels ; forums, RPG, FR Abbreviations and Acronyms
- Come and have a look at the already asked questions from the Forgotten Realms Trivia Challenge
I am a French FR fan, so please forgive my lapses in English language and do not hesitate to correct me. Thanks a lot. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 31 Aug 2008 : 18:39:40
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Originally posted by Fillow
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Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe
[quote]Well, I'm not a Canadian (though I sometimes wear a maple leaf flag on my backpack when traveling abroad these days ), but I'd just go with demi-dieu.
Thanks Christopher.
So obvious ?
I was afraid of someone saying that ! Is ther not any difference between an exarch an a "half-god" ?
FRCG are said to be "divine servants of the gods". That's why I did not want to call them "half-god", while they serve gods.
Do you see what I mean ?
So, why "exarch" ? is ther an etymologic meaning ?
Or is it a figment as many other Fantasy names ?
The term originally applied to high-ranking religious officials.
With the advent of the Shattered Realms, a lot of demigods (the weakest, lowest rank of deity) were turned into exarchs. Exarchs in the Shattered Realms are apparently very powerful servants of deities, more powerful than a mortal cleric but not a deity in their own right. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 31 Aug 2008 : 19:16:02
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Originally posted by Fillow
I read in the FRCG that one nearly needs to be an exarch to become a Chosen.
Really? I just heard that there are currently no Chosen in the Realms who are not also exarchs. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 31 Aug 2008 : 19:50:24
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Originally posted by Fillow
The FRCG says that "The post-Spellplague world includes no Chosen who
are not exarchs." (page 72)
Did I misunderstand ? One more time ?
Sorry for that.
No need to be sorry. It's just that it doesn't say anywhere that being an exarch is a requirement for being a Chosen, or vice versa (although, it's possible I misunderstood it--the words are pretty vague). |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 31 Aug 2008 19:50:41 |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 01 Sep 2008 : 03:21:21
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| I think that what it means is that any Chosen who survived and could still be considered Chosen are now Exarchs instead. Chosen like El and The Simbul are no longer Chosen, nor Exarchs, just regular (yeah, right!) NPCs. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 01 Sep 2008 : 04:06:01
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| I think it's important to note that a Chosen may ascend to the position of an Exarch. Creating new Chosen is still possible, and they don't necessarily have to be an Exarch -- it's just something they might eventually come to. However, judging from that FRCG quote, the current lot of Chosen have obviously ascended to the rank of Exarch. |
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Edited by - The Sage on 01 Sep 2008 04:07:28 |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 17:27:04
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Originally posted by Fillow
You're so nice with me Rinonalyrna... 
Of course, why wouldn't I be? You're a nice person. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 20:22:50
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| Do we know yet when or where or how Alustriel dies? |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 21:04:33
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Fillow: Understood.
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
Do we know yet when or where or how Alustriel dies?
I, for one, haven't heard anything, although I do not own the 4E FRCG. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
1608 Posts |
Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 21:13:34
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Fillow: Understood.
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker
Do we know yet when or where or how Alustriel dies?
I, for one, haven't heard anything, although I do not own the 4E FRCG.
The FRCG just says that Alustriel passed away :
"Before she passed away, High Lady Alustriel of Silverymoon founded a mutual defense league in the region. Her son Methrammar Aerasumé came to head a more diminished league". |
"Today is a good day to smile",
Fillow Big'n'Book Mahlemiut 'Lead-dog', Son of Garl, Wanderer of the Masked Leaf and Namer of Oghma.
- Fight in the arena and have fun ! : La brute.com
- Feel free to take part to these projects : Post-Spellplague bibliography ; 4E index project ; Taverns and inns of the Realms ; Dogs of the Realms ; Descriptions of places in the novels ; forums, RPG, FR Abbreviations and Acronyms
- Come and have a look at the already asked questions from the Forgotten Realms Trivia Challenge
I am a French FR fan, so please forgive my lapses in English language and do not hesitate to correct me. Thanks a lot. |
Edited by - Fillow on 02 Sep 2008 21:13:57 |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 03 Sep 2008 : 00:56:52
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Originally posted by Fillow
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Fillow: Understood.
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker
Do we know yet when or where or how Alustriel dies?
I, for one, haven't heard anything, although I do not own the 4E FRCG.
The FRCG just says that Alustriel passed away :
"Before she passed away, High Lady Alustriel of Silverymoon founded a mutual defense league in the region. Her son Methrammar Aerasumé came to head a more diminished league".
Interesting. And somewhat appropriate considering he was commander of Luruar's armies. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 03 Sep 2008 : 15:04:08
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| I did notice (and someone else on the WotC boards did too) that the law about the leader of the Silver Marches serving for only 7 years--not for life--seems to have been forgotten about or disregarded. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 03 Sep 2008 : 15:30:04
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
I did notice (and someone else on the WotC boards did too) that the law about the leader of the Silver Marches serving for only 7 years--not for life--seems to have been forgotten about or disregarded.
Yes that law was "ravaged by the blue fire" |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
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The Last Guardian
Acolyte
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Posted - 03 Sep 2008 : 19:18:50
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
I think that what it means is that any Chosen who survived and could still be considered Chosen are now Exarchs instead. Chosen like El and The Simbul are no longer Chosen, nor Exarchs, just regular (yeah, right!) NPCs.
I get the feeling they are not Exarches (or at least no mention of them being one) is due to the fact that there is no Goddess or God of Magic in 4th ed. It seems all the other Exarches have gravitated towards one of the greater powers. Whose 'court' would they be apart of? |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 04 Sep 2008 : 02:54:05
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Originally posted by The Last Guardian
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
I think that what it means is that any Chosen who survived and could still be considered Chosen are now Exarchs instead. Chosen like El and The Simbul are no longer Chosen, nor Exarchs, just regular (yeah, right!) NPCs.
I get the feeling they are not Exarches (or at least no mention of them being one) is due to the fact that there is no Goddess or God of Magic in 4th ed. It seems all the other Exarches have gravitated towards one of the greater powers. Whose 'court' would they be apart of?
I was speaking of the Chosen that were NOT of Mystra's following. Sorry, should have clarified that earlier. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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What happened to the Chosen? *spoilers maybe*
) but we're going to be off-topic and... The Sage is around... 