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Colman
Acolyte
Ireland
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 Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 07:30:54
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I'm looking for lore on the Thunder Peaks: I have the Elminster's Ecologies, and a couple of source books that contain references, but there doesn't seem to be anything detailed.
Am I missing something? It seems strange that mountains in such an active adventuring area are largely uncharted.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 09:25:25
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| There really isn't much else. The Thunder Peaks [which aren't the Storm Horns, though they do contain the Storm Fangs] are a very interesting range that's referred to in many sources dealing with the surrounding realms. You'll likely have to piece those references together in order to establish a more detailed work-up for the Thunder Peaks. |
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Colman
Acolyte
Ireland
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Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 09:29:43
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| Right. I guess I'll do that then, wait for the FRCS 4e (since that's what we're playing) and write something up. |
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crazedventurers
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1073 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 09:41:33
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Originally posted by Colman
I'm looking for lore on the Thunder Peaks: I have the Elminster's Ecologies, and a couple of source books that contain references, but there doesn't seem to be anything detailed.
Am I missing something? It seems strange that mountains in such an active adventuring area are largely uncharted.
There is some info here originally from George Krashos that was posted onto the WoTC forums.
Volo's Guide to Cormyr has a little bit of lore on page 181 mainly (if you are using the free dowload available from WoTC it can be found on page 182).
I think the Thunder Peaks have been left so vague because they are just so big which gives DM's plenty of scope for putting their own things in there. The Peaks are wild country, so anything you want can be there. I have a very rough outline of a few settlements, monster tribes and other goodies from my campaign which is ever expanding as my current group are slowly exploring their new lands granted to them by Queen Filfaeril along with their titles, (they are sick to death of hearing the phrase " it's cold and damp"   )
Cheers
Damian |
So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Colman
Acolyte
Ireland
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Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 10:08:14
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| Thanks for that. Hm. Dragon society. Where'd I put my copy of Council of Wyrms? Ah, right beside my copy of Volo's Guide to Cormyr. |
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Colman
Acolyte
Ireland
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Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 16:01:08
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| Huh. I can only find two mentions in the GHoTR! |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 19:01:53
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There may be a wee bit more forthcoming in the next month or so concerning part of the Thunderpeaks history, but that will be unofficial. 
And you guys can all thank Brian for returning my interest to the Realms, and focusing me on Cormyr ATM.  |
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Colman
Acolyte
Ireland
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Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 20:20:25
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Originally posted by Markustay
There may be a wee bit more forthcoming in the next month or so concerning part of the Thunderpeaks history, but that will be unofficial.
And you guys can all thank Brian for returning my interest to the Realms, and focusing me on Cormyr ATM.
Any day now would be good. I have a campaign to plot. :-)
Seriously, that sounds interesting. Any hints? What era are you working in? |
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Ahwe Yahzhe
Acolyte
Iraq
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Posted - 25 Jul 2008 : 01:10:25
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...I haven't seen a conversion guide for it yet, but H2 - THUNDERspure Labyrinth is an obvious choice for filling a blank slate area like the THUNDER Peaks... plus it should be set close to the FR version of Winterhaven, on the eastern foothills of the Thunder Gap... what road should this location be tied to? The East Way, like Winterhaven?
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 25 Jul 2008 : 01:47:37
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Originally posted by Colman
[quote]Originally posted by Markustay
Seriously, that sounds interesting. Any hints? What era are you working in?
As of right now, the main body of the article is set at the end of 3e, but there is information going back 2-300 years about the northern region of Cormyr, west of Arabel.
And I plan to extapolate all of the info forward, so it should be 100% useable in 4e as well. |
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 30 Jul 2008 : 10:17:02
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Volo's Guide to the Dalelands might have some info about the lower Thunder Peaks, that is to say if they are the mountain range between Cormyr and the Dalelands. If you mean the opposite mountain range to the north and west of Cormyr then I would check out the archives on WotC's website. They might have a fun article hidden in there with some info. Hope this helps. If not I shall endeavor to provide more useful info in the future.  |
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crazedventurers
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 Jul 2008 : 10:51:12
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Originally posted by Markustay
]As of right now, the main body of the article is set at the end of 3e, but there is information going back 2-300 years about the northern region of Cormyr, west of Arabel.
Hi Mark
Look forward to seeing your work, especially as the wilds of the 'border country' need more info. Just a quick question are you encompassing the Storm Horns as well as the Thunderpeaks or just the 'settled' lands north of Arabel? (up through Gnoll pass etc)
Cheers
Damian |
So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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crazedventurers
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1073 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2008 : 11:22:52
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Originally posted by Wandering_mage
Volo's Guide to the Dalelands might have some info about the Thunder Peaks
Excellent point.
From VGttD free at the WoTC webpage.
The southern end of the Thunder Peaks are known as the Marching Mountains in Archendale.
An orc horde poured out of the Thunder Pass 'nearly 200 years ago' to attack Deepingdale.
All info relating to Highdale is relevant with a few nice snippets of lore (hidden valleys with gnomes settlements etc).
Western Mistledale is plagued by 'numerous fell creatures' sweeping down from the Peaks, which suggests they breed unchecked in the mountains.
And to clarify the routes through the Peaks (something that always confuses my players, as sages from the past/not local travelers/locals etc refer to them inconsistently......  )
The Thunder Way is the road that links Cormyr and Sembia via Highdale, and passes through the Thunder Gap. The other route is via the Thunder Pass which links Cormyr with the Dalelands.
In my campaign the Cormyr side of the Thunder Way as it reaches the foothills of the Thunder Peaks on the road towards Thunderstone is known as Thunder Vale.
Cheers
Damian
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So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
688 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2008 : 05:01:17
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 01 Aug 2008 : 00:26:57
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| Yes - excellent; I'll have to make a note of that source (I'm doing Cormyr ATM). |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 Aug 2008 : 03:03:28
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Originally posted by Ahwe Yahzhe
...I haven't seen a conversion guide for it yet, but H2 - THUNDERspure Labyrinth is an obvious choice for filling a blank slate area like the THUNDER Peaks...
It's actually one of the more densely covered wilderness areas in Faerūn, with eight named peaks, a noted density of dragon lairs, hidden valleys, wizards' safeholds, a lost dwarven city, and giant and bandit strongholds. Most of them are ye olde scattered references, outside VGD. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 02 Aug 2008 : 19:21:59
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| Yes, I've been finding quite a few in odd places, like Dwarves deep and Prayers from the Faithful. It seems there is actually quite a lot of lore to be had about them, but it is spread thinly throughout all sources. |
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Icelander
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 02 Aug 2008 : 19:27:43
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Originally posted by Markustay
Yes, I've been finding quite a few in odd places, like Dwarves deep and Prayers from the Faithful. It seems there is actually quite a lot of lore to be had about them, but it is spread thinly throughout all sources.
Would this scroll be appropriate for an effort to collect this lore?
I've placed a village (hamlet, really) of shepherds of Talfiric stock there, so I'm interested in knowing as much canon as I can, so I don't contravene any of it accidentally. I have Elminster Ecologies, Cormyr, Volo's Guide to Cormyr and all the core setting boxes and the FRCS. I don't have Prayers from the Faithful or Dwarves Deep. What lore is there? Can these be bought online from Paizo?
Where else can I find lore? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Icelander
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 03 Aug 2008 : 04:02:27
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Originally posted by The Sage
Both of those tomes can indeed be purchased as PDF downloads from paizo.com.
Thanks. Lazy of me not to search for it myself, I guess. 
I'll get Dwarves Deep for sure, but I've deliberately avoided Prayers from the Faithful until now. I'm concerned that as a list of spells, it's light on the lore and heavy on mechanics. D&D game rules are useless to me (and I probably already have all Divine spells for the 2e in the Priest Spell Compediums if I ever need them).
Is this impression false? Does Prayers from the Faithful really have Realmslore that makes it worth downloading and perusing? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 03 Aug 2008 : 04:14:36
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Do you have Pages from the Mages? The entries for the various divine-related items in Prayers from the Faithful are presented in a similar fashion, with plenty of background Realmslore and information on each of the items contained within the tome.
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crazedventurers
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1073 Posts |
Posted - 03 Aug 2008 : 11:09:09
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Originally posted by Icelander
[quote]Originally posted by The Sage
[I'll get Dwarves Deep for sure, but I've deliberately avoided Prayers from the Faithful until now. I'm concerned that as a list of spells, it's light on the lore and heavy on
Prayers from the Faithful (2E) has lots of useful lore IMO.
Having reread it this week for info regarding adventuring companies of the Realms I was surprised by how much info there was in there.
Specifically for Cormyr:
Page 22 - Eldathyn community (including names and further lore) who moved to the Hullack
Page 26 - Adventuring band and dragon name
page 97 - Lathanderan tome/adventure hook for the Stonelands.
Hope this helps
Damian |
So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 03 Aug 2008 : 17:06:56
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I think this scroll would be a wonderful place to collect lore for the region.
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Originally posted by Icelander
Is this impression false? Does Prayers from the Faithful really have Realmslore that makes it worth downloading and perusing?
You're kidding, right? It was written by Ed!
The mechanics are barely visible and only a small portion of whats there - every page drips with FR history. I'm ashamed to admit that although I've had this tome since the day it came out, I only started reading through it cover-to-cover the other day and can't believe I never bothered before! I'm now going through it a second time with a fine tooth-comb because it mentions at least a dozen locales not mentioned anywhere else.
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Originally posted by crazedventurers
Look forward to seeing your work, especially as the wilds of the 'border country' need more info. Just a quick question are you encompassing the Storm Horns as well as the Thunderpeaks or just the 'settled' lands north of Arabel? (up through Gnoll pass etc)
Ummm... actually I was thinking of the Stormhorns, not the Thunderpeaks. My bad.
Since Brian was gracious enough to make some of my work canon, I've decided to go ahead and flesh it out.
However, if this thread starts coming up with lots of Thunderpeaks lore, I may try something new and do a detailed area map just of the Mountain Range.
I suppose I'm going to have to go through the Dragons of Faerūn book and a ton of Dragon Magazine articles as well.
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The_DarkAngel
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 00:13:20
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There is an old AD&D adventure called the "Shattered Statue" that is based in the Thunder Peaks.
The Thunder Peaks is loaded with Vallies. The Highdale is a good example.
This adventure is located in a valley North and deeper into the Thunder Peaks where 2 old (but destroyed) Arcane colleges where once located. The Valley's name is called "Volkumburgh" (under the yoak of a Red Dragon that is paid tribute) and the 2 destroyed colleges are "College of Rune Magics" and "College of Shaping Magics".
The adventure itself is about a lord in suzil that wants a group of adventures to help this wizard locate that colleges and find lore about this huge statue (or Awtawmatawn) that they were working on. This statue can do the work of 200 men. The statue the colleges where trying to build is based on the walking statues of Mulhorand. It became possed by a devil and destoyed bolth colleges before itslef was destroyed.
Basically, you can create any thing you want. Think of a good name for a valley, and do what you like. Many Orc tribes and more than a few dragons reside in the ThunderPeaks. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 02:21:23
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I had to just research that - is that even considered FR canon? 
It was created for the DQ game, and was later adapted as one of those duel-system modules that never caught on. I know some of the stuff from DQ made it into FR canon (like Karsus), but I don't know if I'd consider the entire module canon.
Anyone have any thoughts?
If its canon, that means I need to get it. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 02:35:53
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| Volo's Guide to the Dalelands and FR5 The Savage Frontier mention the Vale of Volkumburgh. Whether all of DQ1 is canonical I don't know; I don't have a copy. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 03:03:21
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But that would place it nowhere near the Thunderpeaks.
Now I'm confused. |
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The_DarkAngel
Acolyte
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Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 03:39:58
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Yes it's also briefly mentioned in Volo's Guide to the Dalelands too. Theres really not a whole lot to the vale and it's not the only vale either.
I would assume it's cannon (atleast FRCS 1) but either way it really doesn't matter.
Volkumburgh is south of the thunder gap towards the western side and sits along the "little thunder river". North east is the High Pasture, another valley, and both ruined colleges are south west of volkumburgh.
Volkumburgh like many of the inhabbited settlements have very little if at all dealings with the rest of the heartlands. Any interaction at all mostly comes from the highdale.
There is also the "Temple of the Dragon Oracle" east of the colleges. This temple was created by the cult of the Dragon about 3 centuries before the opening date of the grey box campaign setting. |
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The_DarkAngel
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Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 03:46:07
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| You map "Old +New Cormyr is too small and very hard to read other wise I could point out exactly were all 5 locations i mentioned are. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 06:02:15
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Originally posted by Markustay
Now I'm confused.
It's OK.quote:
You know, Erek, if Elminster had't been so kind to us when were were, um, avoiding the rather unfortunate consequences of that incident in Volkumburgh, I would never have agreed to this project. After all, how was I to know WHY the awtawmatawn had been shattered in the first place?
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Colman
Acolyte
Ireland
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Posted - 08 Aug 2008 : 09:21:36
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I'm chewing through sources at the moment, compiling a big mind map thingy of the lore I can find - EE and VGTOD are the most meaty so far - I'll have to hunt down some of those other sources you mention now ... hah all available on-line, including "The Shattered Statue". There goes another twenty four of those funny American dollars.
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