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Bugoron_Bearfang
Acolyte
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 Posted - 22 Jul 2008 : 06:30:26
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If you don't want to think about a possible ending for this series, best stop here.
Okay, this has eating at me ever since I started reading the bits covering it in 'The Orc King'. I've thought it over countless times, and it'd make perfect sense to me.
My reasoning is: since 4E has ruined my favorite setting, it's also going to ruin the life of its staple character by killing the one he loves the most.
I predict that by the end of this trilogy, Catti-Brie is going to have learned just enough magic that by the time the SpellPlague hits, it'll be able to kill her, since she now possesses arcane power.
A few apologies, including if I misplaced this post, or if this thought has been put out there already. I just had to get it out there and see what others thought. Oh, and for any errors in the post, it's early, so sorry. :P
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Bugoron_Bearfang
Acolyte
Canada
16 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2008 : 15:05:37
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| Should, yes, but that's too easy. Also, Drizzt would expect that. Catti-Brie learning magic just seems too convenient, even given her injury. She's NEVER thought about magic, and even distrusted it vicariously through Wulfgar and Bruenor. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 22 Jul 2008 : 15:34:22
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I'd like to point out that as of the end of The Orc King, Cattie-Brie has not yet learned to cast any spells by herself. She's not a mage, yet, as far as I can tell.
That said, she probably is going to end up learning magic, and I wouldn't be surprised if she wound up dying thanks to the Spellplague.
PS: Drizzt is a staple character of the Realms, but not the staple character of the Realms. |
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Bugoron_Bearfang
Acolyte
Canada
16 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2008 : 15:40:20
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I should clarify in that I said staple because it seems no one character gets crazed fans like he does, so I will remand that to 'fan favorite' character.
And yes, she hasn't learned it yet, which leads me to believe she will learn in book two, and will die in book three. |
Edited by - Bugoron_Bearfang on 22 Jul 2008 15:40:52 |
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Arrevanthas
Acolyte
USA
19 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 17:23:40
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| Honestly...I am glad she is going to die...I hate her. She annoys the hell out of me. Always has. |
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Darth_Azalin
Acolyte
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Posted - 27 Jul 2008 : 17:46:04
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I would pretty much not want another Drizzt story so soon. Yes I have the Pirate King in the fall and the 3rd book next year but after that just stop already. Many other people in the Realms that can get stories around them. The 100 years pretty much forces us readers into loving/hating new characters. By hate I mean you like the as the villain to your hero or you hate them as the "hero" to your villain.
I want another series on Artemis. Maybe a tale with Jaraxle and Arthogate.
My main question is can writers write stories about stuff in the past? Nothing like the Arcane Age series but I mean if they want to do what Dragonlance does. Just pick out a period of time and focus on that story. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 27 Jul 2008 : 18:44:36
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Originally posted by Darth_Azalin
My main question is can writers write stories about stuff in the past? Nothing like the Arcane Age series but I mean if they want to do what Dragonlance does. Just pick out a period of time and focus on that story.
There have been a few such stories in the Realms, but they are very few. WotC -- and TSR before them -- has shown a preference for keeping Realms stories in the here-and-now, rather than exploring the past. This will most likely continue with the post-Sellplague Realms.
Honestly, one of the things that turned me off on the Dragginglance novels was the fact that the setting never went anywhere. Despite the one big central story, I think there was plenty of room for other tales, tales that moved the setting forward and gave us new lands (or at least explored existing ones, like Nordmaar) and new characters. Instead, they concentrated on either going sideways ("let's tell the story of the first draconian Tanis killed! We've not covered him yet!") or backwards ("Ooh, let's write a tale about this guy that existed before the Cataclysm and who has no bearing on anything else!").
The setting basically stagnated unless Weis & Hickman were telling another big tale. And since nothing ever happened, the first TSR setting I ever got into was also the first one I dropped and later ignored. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Jul 2008 : 18:45:54
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Originally posted by Arrevanthas
Honestly...I am glad she is going to die...I hate her. She annoys the hell out of me. Always has.
Lol. That is funny, that is more how I feel about Wulfgar (well, post Icewind Dale trilogy anyways). I am just glad that they are finally past the whole angsty "I want to marry her but I am not sure that I should" phase. That bugged the hell out of me. I little was okay, but not to the degree that it was drug out (IMHO). |
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Darth_Azalin
Acolyte
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Posted - 27 Jul 2008 : 22:20:15
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| Just like the Star Wars books with LA. They have 6 era's that can be wrote in. Maybe they will see the money in it and let it happen. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Jul 2008 : 04:46:01
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Originally posted by Darth_Azalin
My main question is can writers write stories about stuff in the past? Nothing like the Arcane Age series but I mean if they want to do what Dragonlance does. Just pick out a period of time and focus on that story.
What Wooly said, but with the addendum that Rosemary Jones' novel in the Dungeons (which I've managed to forget the name of, despite it being my favourite Realms-novel for quite some time) was set in the past, albeit not as far back as the Arcane Age |
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Arrevanthas
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 31 Jul 2008 : 00:48:16
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Lol. That is funny, that is more how I feel about Wulfgar (well, post Icewind Dale trilogy anyways). I am just glad that they are finally past the whole angsty "I want to marry her but I am not sure that I should" phase. That bugged the hell out of me. I little was okay, but not to the degree that it was drug out (IMHO).
Me and Wulfgar had a love hate thing. I liked him in the beginning...then I couldn't stand him....now...he is just alright in my book. Catti-brie is just annoying and I hate how most of the guy characters all want her. That contributes to me not liking her. |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 31 Jul 2008 : 01:14:13
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Well, she's now a cripple with a limp and a wand, so maybe you'll like her better? oh, and yeah: she hangs out with Alustriel. Hopefully they both become lesbian lovers. I'd like that.  |
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Arrevanthas
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 31 Jul 2008 : 02:55:16
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
Well, she's now a cripple with a limp and a wand, so maybe you'll like her better? oh, and yeah: she hangs out with Alustriel. Hopefully they both become lesbian lovers. I'd like that.
LOL! I was so glad that she was injured...it's a pity it didn't kill her. And no, as I continue to read on with the Orc King...I still hate her just as much. I wish Wulfgar hit her harder when they were getting it on...maybe snap her neck or something. >.< |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Talwyn
Learned Scribe
Australia
222 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2008 : 03:30:33
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
Well, she's now a cripple with a limp and a wand, so maybe you'll like her better? oh, and yeah: she hangs out with Alustriel. Hopefully they both become lesbian lovers. I'd like that.
LMAO
I never liked her as a character and her name conjured up an image of a a soft cheese that a cat has pissed on. Hard to feel sympathy for such a named person. |
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monknwildcat
Learned Scribe
USA
285 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2008 : 03:35:07
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I cannot form any attachment to Catti-Brie. Although I don't wish her dead, she was clearly doomed with that name. Her name's like some edible French sex-toy...an Austin Powers-girl name. So it's nigh impossible to take her seriously, and that's her role in the novels (i.e. the soul of the party, their common sense).
I would be up for more Athrogate or Dwahvel--even Artemis after Idahlia's flute. Very interesting characters!
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monknwildcat
Learned Scribe
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285 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2008 : 03:41:15
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Yeah, so basically I agree with Talwyn.
Ah, synchronicity! |
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Arrevanthas
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 31 Jul 2008 : 03:44:44
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Let's not go advocating violence towards women, please. 
I am not advocating violence towards women...only Catti-brie and she is a fictional character.
One of my major issues with Catti is that every male she came across wanted her (I could be exaggerating here but it is really how it seemed) and it just made her seem like a very unbelievable character (again, only my opinion). Like Jilseponie (SP?) of RAS's Demon War series was a more believe female character. Hell...I liked Delly over Catti! @.@ |
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monknwildcat
Learned Scribe
USA
285 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2008 : 03:46:54
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I've not past the Thousand Orcs, but, with all the crap the Companions have done for the good of Faerūn, doesn't Catti-Brie rank a replacement arm from a clergyperson? Deneir, perhaps?
Or is that explained well in the novels? |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 31 Jul 2008 : 07:36:54
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Originally posted by Talwyn
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Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
Well, she's now a cripple with a limp and a wand, so maybe you'll like her better? oh, and yeah: she hangs out with Alustriel. Hopefully they both become lesbian lovers. I'd like that.
LMAO
I never liked her as a character and her name conjured up an image of a a soft cheese that a cat has pissed on. Hard to feel sympathy for such a named person.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 31 Jul 2008 : 14:21:05
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Originally posted by monknwildcat
I've not past the Thousand Orcs, but, with all the crap the Companions have done for the good of Faerūn, doesn't Catti-Brie rank a replacement arm from a clergyperson? Deneir, perhaps?
I think it's actually her legs that are the problem. That said...
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Or is that explained well in the novels?
Kind of. IIRC, the priests of Mithril Hall tried to heal her, but "could do nothing" or something. |
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monknwildcat
Learned Scribe
USA
285 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2008 : 15:17:31
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Thanks, RF!!! Someday I'll catch up. 
Hopefully her sister-chat with Danica and past record merit the clerical attention of Cadderly.
Part of me wonders if such an event (said disability, not the failure of the Mithril clergy) would lead someone towards faith, perhaps even ahead of magic. Then again, the Companions have had enough near-death experiences that, were one to become a priest, said catalyst's already been overused. And I often suspect RAS has major issues with the clerical classes. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 Aug 2008 : 16:22:52
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Originally posted by monknwildcat
Thanks, RF!!!
You're welcome. |
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