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Afetbinttuzani
Senior Scribe
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 Posted - 30 May 2008 : 13:55:49
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Well met all,
Has anyone found or come up with a tune that works for the Chorus of the "Cormyte's Boast"? I've asked Ed what, if any, tune he may have had in mind when writing it. No answer yet. If your not familiar with the song, or need a refresher and want to take a stab at tune, here's the words:
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Chorus
And in this land I'll proudly stand
Until my dying day, sir.
For whate'er king o'er all command
I'll still be a Cormyte brave, sir. (Volo's Guide to Cormyr p. 165)
Cheers,
Afet
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 30 May 2008 : 14:25:48
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| Keep in mind that Ed sometimes takes months, if not years, to answer a question. But this is definitely something he'd have an answer to... |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 30 May 2008 : 14:44:29
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Indeed. Ed's answer schedule doesn't usually follow any particular pattern. Some of us are still waiting for replies to questions we asked back in '04 [like myself for example]. Just be patient -- he'll get to it in time. 
Having said that, I'll add that I have actually played around with a tune for the chorus of the "Cormyte's Boast." It's part of a little project of mine that I like to tinker with when I have the time. I like to use the details about a particular song/ballad that's been referenced in the Realmslore and try to set a tune to it. I can often sit at the piano for hours, just waiting for the right sense of inspiration. 
So, if you're able to read sheet music, I'll upload a snippet onto one of these file uploading sites and send you the URL.
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monknwildcat
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 30 May 2008 : 15:00:28
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This shan't hold a tallow candle to the Sage's originality, but I always hear Men of Harlech(?), an older, martial Welsh tune that seems to be written in hymnal verse. But that's because I always felt the boast was a refrain offering itself for versification.  |
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Afetbinttuzani
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 30 May 2008 : 19:12:03
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Originally posted by The Sage
Indeed. Ed's answer schedule doesn't usually follow any particular pattern. Some of us are still waiting for replies to questions we asked back in '04 [like myself for example]. Just be patient -- he'll get to it in time.
I know, it may take some time. I just thought that while I was waiting, I'd ask if someone else had already worked out something.
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Having said that, I'll add that I have actually played around with a tune for the chorus of the "Cormyte's Boast." [...]
So, if you're able to read sheet music, I'll upload a snippet onto one of these file uploading sites and send you the URL.
Unfortunately, I can't read sheet music. 
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Afet bint Tuzaní
"As the good Archmage often admonishes me, I ought not to let my mind wander, as it's too small to go off by itself."
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Afetbinttuzani
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 30 May 2008 : 19:22:14
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Originally posted by monknwildcat
This shan't hold a tallow candle to the Sage's originality, but I always hear Men of Harlech(?), an older, martial Welsh tune that seems to be written in hymnal verse. But that's because I always felt the boast was a refrain offering itself for versification.
Interesting. I sort of picture that old boys swelling feel as well. But the phrasing of Men of Harlech doesn't seem to work for the Cormyte's Boast.
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Afet bint Tuzaní
"As the good Archmage often admonishes me, I ought not to let my mind wander, as it's too small to go off by itself."
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 30 May 2008 : 21:49:07
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Originally posted by Fillow
euh... what is this "Cormyte's Boast" song please ?
Sure that Ed made it to be tuned ?
I love this website ! Every day I learn one more detail that makes FR life almost as real as our ! even sometimes more ! 
It's in Volo's Guide to Cormyr, which can be downloaded for free from the Wizards downloads page. |
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Afetbinttuzani
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 31 May 2008 : 02:56:23
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Originally posted by Fillow
euh... what is this "Cormyte's Boast" song please ?
The Cormyte's Boast is a song written by the Master Bard Canthalas, who was a resident of Knightswood in the King's Forest. The song became a kind of nationalistic anthem for Cormyr and is sung in taverns and ale houses around the realm. Here's the whole song as given in Volo's Guide to Cormyr (p. 165):
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The Cormyte's Boast
When Purple Dragons first rode the ways,
Swording every monster seen,
Then did adventurers' mighty plays
Hearten all in this land green.
But now with farmer and merchant both
I hearken more or lasting peace,
And find myself increasing loath
To welcome the weapons charter wreath.
Chorus:
And in this land I'll proudly stand
Until my dying day, sir.
I'll still be a Cormyte brave, sir.
For whate'er king o'er all command
Now Sembian gold it piles up high,
And men show the price of their hides.
But there stand here folk you cannot buy
Whate'er changing fortune's tides.
So let all dandies prance and preen,
Doing anything for coins tossed their way.
Here in this pleasant kingdom green
I'll steadfast unbending stay.
Chorus
Now other lands sing prouder songs,
And their folk come swaggering our way.
But if those lands are so free of wrongs,
Why do their folk from home away?
Oh, many boasts are empty boasts,
And distant shores our hearts recall,
But among all other glittering toasts
There's one that beats 'em all
Chorus
And in Cormyr none shall starve or thirst
For so the fair law demands.
But of all fair folk we are the first
To strike down bad laws and commands.
Some folk may live in layer halls
Or wear cut gems on every toe.
Such folk take greater and grander falls
And so find harder rows to hoe.
Chorus
(Repeat the chorus if the company demands.
Usually the last chorus is sung once and then
again a second time at half speed and twice
the proud, emphatic volume!)
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Afet bint Tuzaní
"As the good Archmage often admonishes me, I ought not to let my mind wander, as it's too small to go off by itself."
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Dalmar Amad
Seeker
Germany
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Posted - 31 May 2008 : 09:23:44
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IIRC Volo's guide says, the tune is the one from Yankee Doodle.
I could be wrong, though |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 31 May 2008 : 14:49:09
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| I'm still digging through old forum logs to find it, but I'm sure that Ed has identified the song from which the tune is drawn before. If only I had a better head for music (or more sensitive searching), I'd have it, but this way, it might take a while to figure things out. |
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Afetbinttuzani
Senior Scribe
Canada
434 Posts |
Posted - 31 May 2008 : 15:31:55
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Originally posted by Dalmar Amad
IIRC Volo's guide says, the tune is the one from Yankee Doodle.
I could be wrong, though
Yankee Doodle does seem to me to be the type of popular, tongue in cheek, nationalistic, self-affirming song that Ed had in mind. However, I would be surprised if Ed associated a country in the Realms so directly with a real world counterpart.
In any case, I can't find any reference to Yankee Doodle in MVgtC, and I've tried singing the chorus with that tune and can't get it to work.
Cheers,
Afet |
Afet bint Tuzaní
"As the good Archmage often admonishes me, I ought not to let my mind wander, as it's too small to go off by itself."
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Afetbinttuzani
Senior Scribe
Canada
434 Posts |
Posted - 31 May 2008 : 16:04:00
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Originally posted by Garen Thal
I'm still digging through old forum logs to find it, but I'm sure that Ed has identified the song from which the tune is drawn before. If only I had a better head for music (or more sensitive searching), I'd have it, but this way, it might take a while to figure things out.
Thanks Garen. I've tried searching as well, but I gave up after spending a considerable amount of time, suffering timeouts, and fruitlessly paging through the numerous, unsorted results that the Candlekeep's search gave me.
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Afet bint Tuzaní
"As the good Archmage often admonishes me, I ought not to let my mind wander, as it's too small to go off by itself."
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 31 May 2008 : 16:10:48
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Originally posted by Garen Thal
I'm still digging through old forum logs to find it, but I'm sure that Ed has identified the song from which the tune is drawn before. If only I had a better head for music (or more sensitive searching), I'd have it, but this way, it might take a while to figure things out.
From the Lady Hooded One, back in Sep. '04:-
"The Cormyte’s Boast is, of course, Ed’s parody of the famous British folksong “The Vicar of Bray” (or “Braye” if one prefers)."
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 31 May 2008 : 16:12:40
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Originally posted by Afetbinttuzani
Thanks Garen. I've tried searching as well, but I gave up after spending a considerable amount of time, suffering timeouts, and fruitlessly paging through the numerous, unsorted results that the Candlekeep's search gave me.
Afet
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Afetbinttuzani
Senior Scribe
Canada
434 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jun 2008 : 07:43:07
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Garen Thal
I'm still digging through old forum logs to find it, but I'm sure that Ed has identified the song from which the tune is drawn before. If only I had a better head for music (or more sensitive searching), I'd have it, but this way, it might take a while to figure things out.
From the Lady Hooded One, back in Sep. '04:-
"The Cormyte’s Boast is, of course, Ed’s parody of the famous British folksong “The Vicar of Bray” (or “Braye” if one prefers)."
Thanks Sage. I had never heard of this "famous" folksong. For those who, like me, are unfamiliar with it, here's a link with the lyrics and melody: http://ingeb.org/songs/ingoodki.html
Cheers,
Afet |
Afet bint Tuzaní
"As the good Archmage often admonishes me, I ought not to let my mind wander, as it's too small to go off by itself."
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