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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
 Posted - 03 Jul 2009 : 13:30:04
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I have this dream...
wherein there is a line out-the-door to play in the Pathfinder games...
...and the WotC/4e area is nearly empty, with a few lonely DMs just looking at each other sadly, as tumbleweeds blow by...
Of course, that will never happen, but a man can dream, can't he? 
The Fantasy RPG world was ready for the next great thing, and 4eFR wasn't it. 
The sad part is, as much as I applaud Paizo's efforts and brilliant business model... I still love the Realms. At this point, I think it's one of those 'toxic relationships' I keep hearing about. I know I'd be better-off just bailing and finding something new... but no matter how good they are, those other settings aren't the Forgotten Realms. |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Dart Ambermoon
Learned Scribe
Germany
253 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jul 2009 : 16:08:11
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Originally posted by Markustay
The sad part is, as much as I applaud Paizo's efforts and brilliant business model... I still love the Realms. At this point, I think it's one of those 'toxic relationships' I keep hearing about. I know I'd be better-off just bailing and finding something new... but no matter how good they are, those other settings aren't the Forgotten Realms.
This...I also find this exact sentiment terribly difficult to overcome. From what Iīve read and seen so far I wholeheartedly applaud the way Paizo is doing things and find most of the snippets of their own setting I have gleaned really intriguing, it is so difficult to imagine it replacing the Realms in my heart. It is just like a band you really loved, that changed itīs style to something you donīt like, yet you listen to all their new CDs and hope for a little flicker of the past (an Ed Greenwood-Solo or somesuch, if you will) or a bit like that girl you know wonīt be good for you.
I think the only way to get me so hooked onto another setting would be novels published in said setting. They were what got me into the different AD&D worlds like Ravenloft, etc. back then.
Another thing is...I donīt give a ratīs furry backside about rules. Iīve long ago made a set which makes me happy and keep adapting that as the need arises. Iīm all about lore and hooks.
Still...I am absolutely positive that I will Paizo-fy some corners of my Realms. And therefore I am happy that, although I try to incorporate as much canon as possible, the canon train has always stopped for me with things I really didnīt like and has never stopped me to change things.
I mean there are those continents out there on the map...just screaming for a dose of Steven Schend, Sean K. Reynolds, Jeff Grubb (YES!!!!!), Elaine and Ed...with enough thought, about anything can be adapted. I mean, firstly, any new FR lore only serves me as a possibility to re-adapt it to a pre-Spellplague setting, since Iīll never run a campaign including it and secondly it is not as if the Osse-detailing-supplement is around the corner or anything. The same goes for Planes-related stuff, as The Great Beyond sounds really intriguing, especially for itīs author. So Iīm sure Iīll eventually spend my dime on Paizo...seems to be worth the work of converting things to the FR compared with the current DDi policy in my book.
As an aside...I just find it sad that the Ebberron playerīs book got released before the Setting did...rules sell you the system, not the setting. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 03 Jul 2009 : 18:12:47
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| Don't get me wrong, I love what Paizo is doing and the Golarion lore/adventure/fiction coming out is terrific. But the Realms will always be first in my heart. I'm grateful that Paizo has given us a rules system that means I don't have to throw out old books and works well within the Realms that I run. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
Ashe's Character Sheet
Alphabetized Index of Realms NPCs |
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Amarel Derakanor
Seeker
97 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jul 2009 : 13:20:17
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
Don't get me wrong, I love what Paizo is doing and the Golarion lore/adventure/fiction coming out is terrific. But the Realms will always be first in my heart. I'm grateful that Paizo has given us a rules system that means I don't have to throw out old books and works well within the Realms that I run.
I fully agree! Their modification of the rules system is excellent. But about the Golarion lore / world...
I haven't bought the setting myself, so I'm wondering what's it like? What's the 'feel' of it? Compared with the Realms, I mean. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jul 2009 : 03:57:49
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Our DM had to step down due to family reasons, so I stepped up, and I am now DMing our group through the Legacy of Fire adventure path.
To all fellow DMs who may run their group through it, I highly recommend you have your group listen to "Myth1" and "Myth2" as you begin the campaign. It really sets the tone of the campaign!
See link below:
http://colorfulfrog.net/blog/?p=57
(then right click on "Myth 1" and "Save Target As" to download unto your computer as an MP3 file) |
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Amarel Derakanor
Seeker
97 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jul 2009 : 09:59:18
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
It actually 'feels' very Realmsian to me. Ed did the write-up for the Elves in the Campaign Setting.
Interesting, to say the least. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jul 2009 : 12:49:40
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And now for the latest news from the Pazio messageboards:
Cthulhu is a pseudonatural, half-dragon, half-fiend, dire-flumph. |
There is a rumour going around that I have found god. I think is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist.
Terry Pratchett |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
1732 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jul 2009 : 22:05:47
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Kajehase
And now for the latest news from the Pazio messageboards:
Cthulhu is a pseudonatural, half-dragon, half-fiend, dire-flumph.
Ah, good.
There just isn't enough love for the flumph these days. 
But where's the love for the Wolf in Sheep's Clothing?
Steven
an old enough gamer to have fallen victim to that little bunny in 1st edition..... |
For current projects and general natter, see www.steveneschend.com
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Ayunken-vanzan
Senior Scribe
Germany
657 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2009 : 11:59:58
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| Here is a video preview of the upcoming Pathfinder RPG Core Rule Book. |
"What mattered our lives now? When our world had been torn from us? Folk wept, or drank, or stood staring out over the land, wondering what new horror each dawn would bring."
Elender Stormfall of Suzail
"Anyone can kill deities, cause plagues, or destroy organizations. It takes real skill to make them live on."
Varl
FR/D&D-Links 2ed Downloads |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2009 : 01:32:15
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Originally posted by Markustay
I still love the Realms. At this point, I think it's one of those 'toxic relationships' I keep hearing about. I know I'd be better-off just bailing and finding something new... but no matter how good they are, those other settings aren't the Forgotten Realms.
One must be strong of character or be able to find self-confidence in order to be able to say "Honey, this is over." |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2009 : 01:33:20
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Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan
Here is a video preview of the upcoming Pathfinder RPG Core Rule Book.
Hmmm... just got ninja'd by Ayunken here... |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1796 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2009 : 02:36:49
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| To all subscribers here: Check out the Qadira supplement and the Legacy of Fire AP 6 of 6... :) |
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Ayunken-vanzan
Senior Scribe
Germany
657 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2009 : 11:10:21
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| Hm, what are you alluding to? |
"What mattered our lives now? When our world had been torn from us? Folk wept, or drank, or stood staring out over the land, wondering what new horror each dawn would bring."
Elender Stormfall of Suzail
"Anyone can kill deities, cause plagues, or destroy organizations. It takes real skill to make them live on."
Varl
FR/D&D-Links 2ed Downloads |
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Uzzy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
618 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2009 : 14:20:59
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| The Qadira supplement is written up using the Pathfinder RPG rules, while Legacy of Fire 6 has a rather nice preview for them. |
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Ayunken-vanzan
Senior Scribe
Germany
657 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2009 : 15:52:55
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| Ah, I see. I know about the Quadira supplement's rule foundation from the Paizo blog, but until now I have only skimmed LoF 6. |
"What mattered our lives now? When our world had been torn from us? Folk wept, or drank, or stood staring out over the land, wondering what new horror each dawn would bring."
Elender Stormfall of Suzail
"Anyone can kill deities, cause plagues, or destroy organizations. It takes real skill to make them live on."
Varl
FR/D&D-Links 2ed Downloads |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 01 Aug 2009 : 13:06:15
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I'm still waiting for some of the LoF modules to arrive... and I haven't yet received Qadira, either, but I'm eagerly waiting for it.
You're all aware that the secrets of the mightiest nation on Golarion will soon be revealed in 'Cheliax: Empire of Devils'? That's a tome you don't want to miss, for it details the only *true* empire in Avistan, feared and envied by all the lesser nations!  |
"What am I doing today? Ask me tomorrow - I can be sure of giving you the right answer then."
-- Askarran of Selgaunt, Master Sage, speaking to a curious merchant, Year of the Helm |
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Ayunken-vanzan
Senior Scribe
Germany
657 Posts |
Posted - 01 Aug 2009 : 19:45:59
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| The path of devils leads unerringly to ruin, and who sows on the land of hell will harvest only sorrow and gnashing of teeth. |
"What mattered our lives now? When our world had been torn from us? Folk wept, or drank, or stood staring out over the land, wondering what new horror each dawn would bring."
Elender Stormfall of Suzail
"Anyone can kill deities, cause plagues, or destroy organizations. It takes real skill to make them live on."
Varl
FR/D&D-Links 2ed Downloads |
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Knight of the Gate
Senior Scribe
USA
624 Posts |
Posted - 02 Aug 2009 : 05:51:43
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Originally posted by Ayunken-vanzan
The path of devils leads unerringly to ruin, and who sows on the land of hell will harvest only sorrow and gnashing of teeth.
I wouldn't let the Order of the Nail hear you spouting such blasphemy, neighbor!
I really haven't been this giddy for a new setting since... well, since I first got my hands on the Old Grey Box. |
How can life be so bountiful, providing such sublime rewards for mediocrity? -Umberto Ecco |
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Ayunken-vanzan
Senior Scribe
Germany
657 Posts |
Posted - 02 Aug 2009 : 11:01:34
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Originally posted by Knight of the Gate
I wouldn't let the Order of the Nail hear you spouting such blasphemy, neighbor!
I do not fear the puny creatures of the Order of the Nail. Lo, they will see justice worked upon them swiftly. |
"What mattered our lives now? When our world had been torn from us? Folk wept, or drank, or stood staring out over the land, wondering what new horror each dawn would bring."
Elender Stormfall of Suzail
"Anyone can kill deities, cause plagues, or destroy organizations. It takes real skill to make them live on."
Varl
FR/D&D-Links 2ed Downloads |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6688 Posts |
Posted - 03 Aug 2009 : 00:33:02
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Originally posted by Amarel_Derakanor
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
It actually 'feels' very Realmsian to me. Ed did the write-up for the Elves in the Campaign Setting.
Interesting, to say the least.
I've decided to pick up some of the Golarion material and take a look. It's not like there will be any FR products coming out anytime soon for me to spend my hard-earned on. Plus, I love the guys at Paizo for their ability and enthusiasm. Now, I just have to see what my FLGS has in stock ...
If it excites me enough, I might see how that translates onto paper ...
-- George Krashos
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 03 Aug 2009 : 07:45:47
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If only you could start writing some Golarionlore Krash!
Who would love to see Krash start writing article for Pathfinder? I really need a Dancing Smilie right about now! |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 03 Aug 2009 : 18:28:30
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Originally posted by Brimstone
If only you could start writing some Golarionlore Krash!
Who would love to see Krash start writing article for Pathfinder? I really need a Dancing Smilie right about now!
Well, there are a few FR fans who *have* been clamoring on the Paizo boards to land Krash his first writing gig for Paizo (I suspect it's the lack of beard... after all, the man is internationally known as George "The Beardless One" Krashos  ).
Seriously, I also think it would be absolutely magnificent to see George writing his first Golarion piece! |
"What am I doing today? Ask me tomorrow - I can be sure of giving you the right answer then."
-- Askarran of Selgaunt, Master Sage, speaking to a curious merchant, Year of the Helm |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2009 : 06:07:08
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Kes is telling me that she received a Paizo email saying that the core rulebook has sold out already but they have some still for Gencon. I haven't received the email yet but my email tends to me slow.
Edit: Ashe posted this but in the other thread. :) |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
Scribe for the Candlekeep Compendium |
Edited by - Kuje on 04 Aug 2009 06:08:31 |
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Uzzy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
618 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2009 : 13:45:51
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I've downloaded the Cheliax player guide. I would just like to say.. the country is evil. Really, really, really Evil.
The Zhents have stuff to learn. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3252 Posts |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
1732 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2009 : 13:59:31
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Originally posted by Asgetrion
Well, there are a few FR fans who *have* been clamoring on the Paizo boards to land Krash his first writing gig for Paizo (I suspect it's the lack of beard... after all, the man is internationally known as George "The Beardless One" Krashos ).
Seriously, I also think it would be absolutely magnificent to see George writing his first Golarion piece!
If you keep calling him the Beardless One, he'll never have the incentive to grow a proper beard like all good FR sages. ;)
Steven
who'd love to see George dip a toe in Golarion as well, if only to find the water's fine
PS: Granted, George cut his teeth on untangling mismatched lore in the Realms (or at least that's how I got to know him) and there's not enough lore yet with Golarion to fix. Still, best to get in there early.
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1564 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2009 : 19:21:26
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Originally posted by Uzzy
I've downloaded the Cheliax player guide. I would just like to say.. the country is evil. Really, really, really Evil.
The Zhents have stuff to learn.
We're evil?!? 
Nah, that's just Taldorian propaganda... come and see yourself! I'll guarantee you don't *ever* want to leave again...
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-- Askarran of Selgaunt, Master Sage, speaking to a curious merchant, Year of the Helm |
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