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sfdragon
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 Posted - 01 Apr 2008 : 22:33:19
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Does anyone know that star elf from Stardeep and Darkvision stats??
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why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 01 Apr 2008 : 23:24:22
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Alaundo
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Posted - 02 Apr 2008 : 07:30:53
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Originally posted by The Sage
There haven't been any official stats released. You may want to ask Bruce directly in his scroll, about what stats he might possibly assign to Kiril.
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Hawkins
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Posted - 02 Apr 2008 : 15:58:45
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If you are interested in the Star Elf race however, you can find that in the 3.5 Unapproachable East supplement. I do not know how closely Bruce paid attention to that though seeing as I have not had a chance to get my hands on those two books yet.  |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 02 Apr 2008 : 16:12:28
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
If you are interested in the Star Elf race however, you can find that in the 3.5 Unapproachable East supplement. I do not know how closely Bruce paid attention to that though seeing as I have not had a chance to get my hands on those two books yet.
Probably close enough attention, as Cordell had a hand in writing that supplement. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 02 Apr 2008 : 17:22:04
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
If you are interested in the Star Elf race however, you can find that in the 3.5 Unapproachable East supplement. I do not know how closely Bruce paid attention to that though seeing as I have not had a chance to get my hands on those two books yet.
The Twilight Tomb module is also somewhat useful in this regard. |
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sfdragon
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Posted - 02 Apr 2008 : 22:44:35
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Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
If you are interested in the Star Elf race however, you can find that in the 3.5 Unapproachable East supplement. I do not know how closely Bruce paid attention to that though seeing as I have not had a chance to get my hands on those two books yet.
coincidentally i own that book already.
it was her stats i was looking for.
well and a few other npc stats, namely Fflar's. |
why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
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King Libertine
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Posted - 07 Aug 2020 : 20:55:36
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I have just read the 3 books involving Kiril Duskmourn. Before that I read The Last Mythal trilogy. I never felt that the star elves in both books were the same sub-race. Am I missing something? The star elves in Stardeep seemed much different that the star elves you meet with Araevin Teshurr and Liriel Baenre, in their respective novels. I have the Races of Faerun PDF and the UE PDF and even those descriptions shine the light on star elves differently than Stardeep.
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 07 Aug 2020 : 21:04:16
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-Oh man, talk about throwback.
-Keep in mind that Star Elves lived kind of isolated lives on the Sildeyuir, so that might explain differences. Also, Kyril and the Elves highlighted in Stardeep aren't/weren't exactly the norm. |
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King Libertine
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Posted - 07 Aug 2020 : 21:15:48
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Originally posted by Lord Karsus
-Oh man, talk about throwback.
-Keep in mind that Star Elves lived kind of isolated lives on the Sildeyuir, so that might explain differences. Also, Kyril and the Elves highlighted in Stardeep aren't/weren't exactly the norm.
Yes. They seemed foreign to me. Not that all races besides human don't, lol. Just saying, moon elves and sun elves and all the other sub-races of elves seem pretty consistent in novels and canon lore, except for Stardeep. I almost felt they were more Xenophobic than wild elves. For only having Sildėyuir for roughly 2,000 years, I would imagine elves wouldn't change that much. Though the Shadovar did so in much less time. But apples and oranges I guess. |
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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader
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2708 Posts |
Posted - 08 Aug 2020 : 03:13:44
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| Stardeep was such a sad book. |
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King Libertine
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Posted - 08 Aug 2020 : 10:05:19
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Originally posted by CorellonsDevout
Stardeep was such a sad book.
but why. why was it sad. |
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Icelander
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 Aug 2020 : 15:35:37
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Originally posted by King Libertine
Just saying, moon elves and sun elves and all the other sub-races of elves seem pretty consistent in novels and canon lore, except for Stardeep. I almost felt they were more Xenophobic than wild elves. For only having Sildėyuir for roughly 2,000 years, I would imagine elves wouldn't change that much. Though the Shadovar did so in much less time. But apples and oranges I guess.
Elves are full adults at around 110-120 years of age. While exceptions exist, most elves that have children seem to have them around their second or third century. The occasional older parent is probably not enough to skew the average much, especially as elves do age and by middle-age, females of any species are rarely able to conceive. An elven generation can thus be estimated at around 200 years on average, or conveniently about ten times longer as a human generation.
Consider how extreme the cultural changes between 1920 and 2020 have been on Earth. That's about five generations. Then consider how very foreign people in 1820 would be to our modern sensibilities... and vice versa. That's ten generations and about equivalent to the 2,000 years of the star elves.
And that's not even living on a different pkane of existence, exposed to Lovecraftian horrors. We live on the same Earth as our ancestors, but in many ways, we'd consider them monsters... and vice versa. |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Aug 2020 : 18:34:58
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| -It's been year since I read it, but I vaguely remember the story how Kiril obtained her sword and some of the things that she was forced to do while under its "spell" as being sad. Some innocent deaths of children, I believe. Plus betrayals of friends, deaths of loved ones...she isn't a drunk for no reason. |
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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 08 Aug 2020 : 20:18:15
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Originally posted by King Libertine
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Originally posted by CorellonsDevout
Stardeep was such a sad book.
but why. why was it sad.
Kiril is a tragic character, not to mention what happened to Nangulis. Plus the betrayal, and just the whole situation. I'm not saying it wasn't good--it was--but sad. |
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