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Shadow_stormsword
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Posted - 06 Mar 2008 :  16:39:43  Show Profile  Visit Shadow_stormsword's Homepage Send Shadow_stormsword a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
hey this might be the wrong Forum but where would I find a Chronology of the Realms Novels? I'm an Avid RAS fan and also enjoy Ed Greenwood and would like to find out more about how the Realms have been shaped and I can't find a timeline for the novels, or if you just wanna tell me what you think I should read and in what order I'd apreciate it!

Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 06 Mar 2008 :  17:14:57  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.o-love.net/realms/index.html

This site should have what you need.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

http://www.o-love.net/realms/index.html



Yeah, O Love's Novels Timeline is prolly the best one around.

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Shadow_stormsword
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Posted - 06 Mar 2008 :  17:19:13  Show Profile  Visit Shadow_stormsword's Homepage Send Shadow_stormsword a Private Message  Reply with Quote
k, thanks guys :-) can ya'll tell me the key books that someone basically HAS to read to understand all the main points? cause the only other fantasy I've read is Dragonlance and it's much easier to follow than this because it doesn't have any stand alone novels.
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Ergdusch
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Posted - 06 Mar 2008 :  17:46:25  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shadow_stormsword

k, thanks guys :-) can ya'll tell me the key books that someone basically HAS to read to understand all the main points? cause the only other fantasy I've read is Dragonlance and it's much easier to follow than this because it doesn't have any stand alone novels.



There you ask something.... You could start reading almost anywhere, if oyu so like. There are a few 'main charcters' that have been featured in a series of novels. There'd be the 'Elminster' series, the 'Arylin' series, the 'Drizzt Do'Urden' series and 'Erevis Cale' that IMO are the most prominent characters in the novels. But to get to know the Realms and a fealing of what the Realms are you do not have to read any of those neccissarily...

You might want to head over to this particular scroll: Experienced help for recommending FR Novels where some help and information is already provided.

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Shadow_stormsword
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Posted - 06 Mar 2008 :  17:53:32  Show Profile  Visit Shadow_stormsword's Homepage Send Shadow_stormsword a Private Message  Reply with Quote
k, I'm actually almost done with Elminster and I've read every single thing that RAS has wrtten for FR so I guess thats a good start. I'll go check out that scroll right now :-)
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 06 Mar 2008 :  21:25:48  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There really are no "must reads" that are "required" for understanding the timeline. You really can start reading wherever you want.

That being said, there are novels that are consistently recommended. I think there's a stickied thread on this topic in the Novel Forum (OK, I see that thread has been linked already :)).

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)

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Shadow_stormsword
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Posted - 08 Mar 2008 :  03:43:13  Show Profile  Visit Shadow_stormsword's Homepage Send Shadow_stormsword a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ok, just one more question, sorry guys..... ummm what are the most popular books about mages? like I know about Elminster and Khelban, but who are other Realm shaking spell hurlers?
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Fillow
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Posted - 08 Mar 2008 :  09:22:22  Show Profile  Visit Fillow's Homepage Send Fillow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would say the Archwizards and Shandril series ?
I only can talk about those which were translated in French. I did not dare to read an original one yet...
But there are only ten French novels I've not read yet. So I will soon do it... But I realize that you do not care...

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 09 Mar 2008 :  01:30:56  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shadow_stormsword

ok, just one more question, sorry guys..... ummm what are the most popular books about mages? like I know about Elminster and Khelban, but who are other Realm shaking spell hurlers?



How do we measure what's "popular"? Book sales? Number of times it gets mentioned on the internet?

I would just look through the list and see what interests you, rather than worrying about what's the most popular.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Shadow_stormsword
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Posted - 10 Mar 2008 :  00:49:13  Show Profile  Visit Shadow_stormsword's Homepage Send Shadow_stormsword a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hehe Fillow I feel ya, I've read the first two Archwizard books...... and I went to my local bookstore and picked up like 7 different books that bigin trilogies so I can get a better grasp of whats going on in the Realms, and basically what I've been looking for in all this is, What books change the Realms, for instance the time of troubles was a big deal, and if you hadn't heard about it then when people talked about how El heald the powers of Mystra for a lil while you wouldn't understand.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 10 Mar 2008 :  00:57:03  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shadow_stormsword

hehe Fillow I feel ya, I've read the first two Archwizard books...... and I went to my local bookstore and picked up like 7 different books that bigin trilogies so I can get a better grasp of whats going on in the Realms, and basically what I've been looking for in all this is, What books change the Realms, for instance the time of troubles was a big deal, and if you hadn't heard about it then when people talked about how El heald the powers of Mystra for a lil while you wouldn't understand.



I personally prefer the novels that don't drastically change the setting.

However, that doesn't answer your question. So, I'll list the setting-changing novels I can think of off the top of my head. :) Remember though that "setting-changing" is probably relative rather than objective:

--The Last Mythal trilogy
--The Year of Rogue Dragons trilogy
--The Lady Penitent trilogy
--The Haunted Lands trilogy
--The Threat from the Sea trilogy
--The Avatar trilogy
--The Return of the Archwizards trilogy
--The Twilight War trilogy

Note that I never recommended that these RSE novels should be read before non-RSE novels, nor do I believe that RSE novels are "more important" or "better", either from an artistic viewpoint or in terms of how they fit into the setting.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)

Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 10 Mar 2008 00:58:00
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Shadow_stormsword
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Posted - 11 Mar 2008 :  12:29:17  Show Profile  Visit Shadow_stormsword's Homepage Send Shadow_stormsword a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm not argueing but I'll explain the way I look at it, I'll read the RSE novels to understand whats going on and then I'll read the non-RSE novels to fill in the events. and I just want to thank everyone on this forum, ya'll have been amazingly helpful :-)
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 11 Mar 2008 :  13:41:31  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shadow_stormsword

I'm not argueing but I'll explain the way I look at it, I'll read the RSE novels to understand whats going on and then I'll read the non-RSE novels to fill in the events.



As I always say, to each, their own. And you're welcome.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 11 Mar 2008 :  19:14:57  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Shadow_stormsword

I'm not argueing but I'll explain the way I look at it, I'll read the RSE novels to understand whats going on and then I'll read the non-RSE novels to fill in the events. and I just want to thank everyone on this forum, ya'll have been amazingly helpful :-)



Mmh, with 4th Ed. up on the horizon this will no longer be of particular need to understand the Realms. Not even the designers will see a need for that in their works anymore, for all of what's my guess.

Another thought: my impression is that the books not worried with RSE have much more open word space to spent on the supposidly trivial things that detail the Reamls, the small and lovable tidbits of realmsean every day life. Thats why I liked books such as King Pinch & Yellow Silk so much...

Anyhow, glad to be of help and you are most certainly more than welcome...

"Das Gras weht im Wind, wenn der Wind weht."
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Ergdusch
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Posted - 12 Mar 2008 :  12:19:45  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just an afterthought:

to get an overview of FR-novels ordered by general themes you might want to sneak a peek at the WotC Forgotten Realms Novel Guideline

"Das Gras weht im Wind, wenn der Wind weht."

Edited by - Ergdusch on 12 Mar 2008 12:25:38
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 12 Mar 2008 :  12:53:28  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ergdusch

Just an afterthought:

to get an overview of FR-novels ordered by general themes you might want to sneak a peek at the WotC Forgotten Realms Novel Guideline



It's not a bad guide, though it is out of date. You'd think WotC would keep something like that up to date.

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Fillow
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Posted - 12 Mar 2008 :  20:23:59  Show Profile  Visit Fillow's Homepage Send Fillow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Ergdusch

Just an afterthought:

to get an overview of FR-novels ordered by general themes you might want to sneak a peek at the WotC Forgotten Realms Novel Guideline



It's not a bad guide, though it is out of date. You'd think WotC would keep something like that up to date.


That was so obvious!

Further more, the WotC site list has the advantage to permit to rank the novels by year, author, type, title.

they only miss the ranking by FR chronology ! (Is it a correct manner to say it ?)

"Today is a good day to smile",
Fillow Big'n'Book Mahlemiut 'Lead-dog', Son of Garl, Wanderer of the Masked Leaf and Namer of Oghma.

- Fight in the arena and have fun ! :
La brute.com
- Feel free to take part to these projects : Post-Spellplague bibliography ; 4E index project ; Taverns and inns of the Realms ; Dogs of the Realms ; Descriptions of places in the novels ; forums, RPG, FR Abbreviations and Acronyms
- Come and have a look at the already asked questions from the Forgotten Realms Trivia Challenge

I am a French FR fan, so please forgive my lapses in English language and do not hesitate to correct me. Thanks a lot.
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