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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 13 Feb 2008 : 09:01:23
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Hello fellow scribes!
I have picked up 'Realms of Magic' and been reading the stories therein for a few nights now. There are a few things I would like to question you upon as I could not answer them myself so far.
1. on 'the wild bunch' by Tom Dupree:
Where exactly is the town/village of Schamedar? (answered)
2. on 'the first moonwell' by Douglas Niles:
Has anyone else read that story and actually understood it? It seems a little strange to me? My understanding of Moonwells was different at least of those that are sacride to Selune. But as I understood the story the first moonwell was created by/for Chauntea to be able to 'see' what happened on the lands... Any clarifications would be highly appreciated.
3. on 'the common spell' by Kate Novak-Grubb:
There is a monster mentioned: the pennangalan. Its some kind of vampiric monster. It is mentioned or stated anywhere else?
4. on 'thieves reward' by Mary Herbert:
Also a question for further refference/stats on the water horse,the aughisky. (answered)
thanks in advance for your kind help in furthering my knowledge and understanding of the Realms we all hold dear.
Ergdusch
Edit note: I would like to add a drink to the list of Ales, Spirits and Wines of the Realms if that's possible:
the jhuild - a fiery drink, served in flagon, common in the region of Rashaman; reference in Realms of Magic ('Thieves Reward'), p. 193.
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Edited by - Ergdusch on 13 Feb 2008 21:48:07
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 13 Feb 2008 : 10:01:20
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Where exactly is the town/village of Schamedar?
I know it exists Schamedar in Calimshan. 190 miles east from Calimport, on the south coast of Calimshan. Is this the one you spoke about ?
There is a monster mentioned: the pennangalan. Its some kind of vampiric monster. It is mentioned or stated anywhere else?
I found it was described in the 1st edition of Fiend Folio.
Sorry but I only have the French version of this book and I don't know the French translation of the name of this monster. So I cannot confirm it is indeed in the Folio.
Also a question for further refference/stats on the water horse,the aughisky
I know it is statted and described in the Bestiary of the Realms: Volume 1, P.21. Do you own it ? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 13 Feb 2008 : 11:21:46
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Originally posted by Fillow
Also a question for further refference/stats on the water horse,the aughisky
I know it is statted and described in the Bestiary of the Realms: Volume 1, P.21. Do you own it ?
If not, here's a link:
Realms Bestiary, Volumes 1 & 2 by Eric L. Boyd and Thomas M. Costa |
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GRYPHON
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 13 Feb 2008 : 13:45:27
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 13 Feb 2008 : 21:31:52
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Originally posted by Fillow
Where exactly is the town/village of Schamedar?
I know it exists Schamedar in Calimshan. 190 miles east from Calimport, on the south coast of Calimshan. Is this the one you spoke about ?
This could be the one (as well as any other that might exist). I read the short story and therefore wondered where exactly it may be. Thanks for the info. |
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Edited by - Ergdusch on 13 Feb 2008 21:33:16 |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 13 Feb 2008 : 21:38:56
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Originally posted by Fillow
Also a question for further reference/stats on the water horse,the aughisky
I know it is stated and described in the Bestiary of the Realms: Volume 1, P.21. Do you own it ?
Thanks to Wooly's link I found the Bestiary rather quickly - but I (or any character of mine for that matter) do not own such a magical horse in-game, no. 
Thanks for the references guys.
Edit Note: BTW, the reference I found in 'Realms of Magic' in to mentioned in the Bestiary (but instead it mentions its appearance in 'Realms of Infamy' as well, p. 283-284.) |
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Edited by - Ergdusch on 13 Feb 2008 21:48:41 |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 13 Feb 2008 : 21:50:38
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Originally posted by Fillow
There is a monster mentioned: the pennangalan. Its some kind of vampiric monster. It is mentioned or stated anywhere else?
I found it was described in the 1st edition of Fiend Folio.
Sorry but I only have the French version of this book and I don't know the French translation of the name of this monster. So I cannot confirm it is indeed in the Folio.
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Originally posted by GRYPHON
The pennangalen is also covered in the FF Monstrous Compendium Appendix for 2E (MC14).
Mhh, the Fiend Folio of the 1st Ed.... I shall try to take a look into it at a friends place. Thanks. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Feb 2008 : 22:59:11
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
2. on 'the first moonwell' by Douglas Niles:
Has anyone else read that story and actually understood it? It seems a little strange to me? My understanding of Moonwells was different at least of those that are sacride to Selune. But as I understood the story the first moonwell was created by/for Chauntea to be able to 'see' what happened on the lands... Any clarifications would be highly appreciated.
I haven't read that story in a long time, but I think it was meant to be some type of mythological creation story about how the Earthmother (who at the time that story was written was probably still considered separate from Chauntea, and not an aspect of her) shaped the Moonshaes to her liking. |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 14 Feb 2008 : 09:46:15
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
2. on 'the first moonwell' by Douglas Niles:
Has anyone else read that story and actually understood it? It seems a little strange to me? My understanding of Moonwells was different at least of those that are sacride to Selune. But as I understood the story the first moonwell was created by/for Chauntea to be able to 'see' what happened on the lands... Any clarifications would be highly appreciated.
I haven't read that story in a long time, but I think it was meant to be some type of mythological creation story about how the Earthmother (who at the time that story was written was probably still considered separate from Chauntea, and not an aspect of her) shaped the Moonshaes to her liking.
Well, I will re-read the story later tonight with your words in mind to get a better understanding of it, hopefully. Thanks for this little bit, Rino. Much appreciated!
Edit note: I finished another story in this book last night: 'a worm too soft' by J. Robert King:
It mentioned the game of 'poker' what felt rather strange/out of place to me, to be honest. Now, did the mentioning of this real world game slip by the editors or does 'poker' truely exist in the Realms as well? I don't recall haqving hear of it before. Than again, tehre are posibilities: The Worlds Series of Poker - Waterdeep, Calimport, Eltabar and the Grande Finale at the World Serpent Inn! |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Feb 2008 : 20:50:40
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
Well, I will re-read the story later tonight with your words in mind to get a better understanding of it, hopefully. Thanks for this little bit, Rino. Much appreciated!
You're welcome. But remember, it's been a long, long while since I read any of these stories, so my memory might be off.
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 : 16:29:56
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I finished another story last night. (BTW, I have not gotten around re-reading 'first moonwell' as of yet...  )
There is something else that striked me as being odd while reading this particular Anthology:
The book has quite a few stories featuring smoke powder and Gond-gunnes. Was it published because TSR tried to establish this new technology in the Realms? If so, why has it been not pushed any further or was that not the intention of TSR after all?
However that may be, 'tis nice to read about this particular technology, apparently only very little lore around, it seems. I don't recall reading any other stories that focus on gunnes and smoke power (aside from any sourcebooks, that is). |
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SiCK_Boy
Acolyte
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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 : 18:03:35
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| In the Feathered Dragon (3rd book of the Maztica trilogy), there's some soldiers using gun-powder from the reinforcements sent from Amn with Don Vaez. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 : 18:37:23
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
There is something else that striked me as being odd while reading this particular Anthology:
The book has quite a few stories featuring smoke powder and Gond-gunnes. Was it published because TSR tried to establish this new technology in the Realms? If so, why has it been not pushed any further or was that not the intention of TSR after all?
Good question. TSR did (just as WotC does) "push" new concepts and developments in that manner. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Feb 2008 : 22:25:56
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
Now, did the mentioning of this real world game slip by the editors or does 'poker' truely exist in the Realms as well? I don't recall haqving hear of it before.
Robert King was one of the editors! I don't think many people at TSR had that kind of basic Realms-savvy in the early 90s. No, poker isn't a Faerūnian game (though I'm sure it's been played in Faerūn), any more than Olivia is a Faerūnian name.
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
The book has quite a few stories featuring smoke powder and Gond-gunnes. Was it published because TSR tried to establish this new technology in the Realms? If so, why has it been not pushed any further or was that not the intention of TSR after all?
They're following up the suggestions in Forgotten Realms Adventures in a safe space away from worries of rules and 'canon' -- whether by parallel chance or at the editors' suggestion, I don't know. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 21 Feb 2008 : 00:34:58
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Originally posted by Faraer
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
Now, did the mentioning of this real world game slip by the editors or does 'poker' truely exist in the Realms as well? I don't recall haqving hear of it before.
Robert King was one of the editors! I don't think many people at TSR had that kind of basic Realms-savvy in the early 90s. No, poker isn't a Faerūnian game (though I'm sure it's been played in Faerūn), any more than Olivia is a Faerūnian name.
As I recall, poker was referenced in Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue. And there's a form of 'elven poker' too, called "creyala."
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 21 Feb 2008 : 07:38:18
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Faraer
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
Now, did the mentioning of this real world game slip by the editors or does 'poker' truely exist in the Realms as well? I don't recall haqving hear of it before.
Robert King was one of the editors! I don't think many people at TSR had that kind of basic Realms-savvy in the early 90s. No, poker isn't a Faerūnian game (though I'm sure it's been played in Faerūn), any more than Olivia is a Faerūnian name.
As I recall, poker was referenced in Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue. And there's a form of 'elven poker' too, called "creyala."
Indeed! Poker IS me tioned in Aurora's Catalogue! Idoublecheckedand found it therein, p. 114.
Still,the story did feel a little un-realmsian to me at times (aside from the mentioning of poker also because of the name 'olivia'). |
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SiCK_Boy
Acolyte
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Posted - 21 Feb 2008 : 11:44:41
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| Isn't Olivia the name of the gnome lady bard from the Azure Bond trilogy too? Being that this trilogy is one of the first published ever in the Realms, I hardly see how that name could be called "unrealmsian". |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Feb 2008 : 15:48:58
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Originally posted by SiCK_Boy
Isn't Olivia the name of the gnome lady bard from the Azure Bond trilogy too? Being that this trilogy is one of the first published ever in the Realms, I hardly see how that name could be called "unrealmsian".
No. Her name is Olive. :) |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Feb 2008 : 16:18:13
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Having "poker" in the Realms is a bit real-worldish for my tastes. I guess it was imported to the Realms from Earth or something?
Names from the world also have the potential to be jarring, but they don't really bother me. What terms/objects/names feel anachronistic tends to be a matter of personal taste. |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 22 Feb 2008 : 10:22:27
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Originally posted by The Sage
I've a simple solution for that... read lots of Realmslore by Ed Greenwood. You'll soon notice naming patterns and trends and can implement them accordingly.
Oh! I do not doubt your words Sage, I believe, though that this would mean an in-depth analysis of the written word or at least taking mionr notes or sime such. This would be nothing for me and my bed-time reading, if I think about it.
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
2. on 'the first moonwell' by Douglas Niles:
Has anyone else read that story and actually understood it? It seems a little strange to me? My understanding of Moonwells was different at least of those that are sacride to Selune. But as I understood the story the first moonwell was created by/for Chauntea to be able to 'see' what happened on the lands... Any clarifications would be highly appreciated.
I haven't read that story in a long time, but I think it was meant to be some type of mythological creation story about how the Earthmother (who at the time that story was written was probably still considered separate from Chauntea, and not an aspect of her) shaped the Moonshaes to her liking.
I re-read the story and consulted the long neglected sourcebook of the Moonshea. Together with the additional background information form that sourcebook the story made perfect sense. So thanks for pointing me into the right direction, Rino. |
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Edited by - Ergdusch on 22 Feb 2008 10:31:22 |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 22 Feb 2008 : 12:06:40
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
Oh! I do not doubt your words Sage, I believe, though that this would mean an in-depth analysis of the written word or at least taking mionr notes or sime such. This would be nothing for me and my bed-time reading, if I think about it.
Quite right!
Hehe... I guess I'm lucky that I started right after the publication of Spellfire. I've been taking notes on Realms naming conventions from Ed's works ever since.
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Edited by - The Sage on 22 Feb 2008 12:08:05 |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 22 Feb 2008 : 12:58:20
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
Oh! I do not doubt your words Sage, I believe, though that this would mean an in-depth analysis of the written word or at least taking mionr notes or sime such. This would be nothing for me and my bed-time reading, if I think about it.
Quite right!
Hehe... I guess I'm lucky that I started right after the publication of Spellfire. I've been taking notes on Realms naming conventions from Ed's works ever since.
I see another scroll for Alaundo's library here at Candlekeep, right there! |
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The Sage
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Posted - 22 Feb 2008 : 15:21:27
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In time, perhaps. I've still got to re-read the two books released so far from Ed's "Knights of Myth Drannor" trilogy -- since I didn't have time to take notes during my first read-through. Yes, I read them very, very quickly. I simply didn't want to stop!  |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 22 Feb 2008 : 16:10:25
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Originally posted by Ergdusch
I re-read the story and consulted the long neglected sourcebook of the Moonshea. Together with the additional background information form that sourcebook the story made perfect sense. So thanks for pointing me into the right direction, Rino.
You're welcome. |
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