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Bookwyrm
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 Posted - 10 Jun 2003 : 22:21:02
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branmakmuffin
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 10 Jun 2003 : 22:27:37
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| All I can say is it works for me. Elaine Cunningham (or someone claiming to be her) wrote that Salvatore says bah-ENN-ray (which is not what I thought either). |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 01:35:43
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| It's definitely Elaine. The as and es are all separate short vowels, so 'bah-EN-reh'. |
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eilinel
Learned Scribe
France
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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 12:53:23
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just to say that if u take a dictionary and look for celtic, u will find this word comes from French and not Gaelic. Francs used to name Gaelic people celtics. Thats it. Don't say that gaelic comes from French, not at all. And since francs spoke a mix between their own langage, which comes from asia after 5 centuries of travel, and latin.
So Scottish use to say keltic people, yes, because they named them the kelters, which meant wearer of kilts, that Francs changed as Celts... or if u are more interested, just ask me.
and i say ba-en-ré in French even if its probably not the right way  , is it like bah-en-reh for u or what?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 13:35:22
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Normally I would have pronounced it - BAY-EN-RAY, although the proper pronunciation stated by Faraer, as 'bah-EN-reh' definitely matches more to how I actually thought it would be pronounced.
Besides on the post from the link Faraer supplied, Elaine Cunningham also basically stated that "All vowels short, accent on second syllable".
Makes sense to me .
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 16:04:15
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| Oh well. I still like bane-REE, and I've been using that one for years. However, if I were the author, I'd want people to pronounce it the 'right' way, so I guess I could switch. |
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branmakmuffin
Senior Scribe
USA
428 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2003 : 22:17:34
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Faraer:
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It's definitely Elaine. The as and es are all separate short vowels, so 'bah-EN-reh'.
Actually, it's nothing to me one way or the other. If I meet someone on the 'net claiming to be such-and-such famous person, I'll take them at their word. If they're telling the truth, it's the polite thing to do (obviously, I guess  ). If they're not telling the truth, it doesn't really affect me in any way. I'm never going to meet them. So, I don't know why I said "or someone claiming to be her". I violated my own credo (ouch). |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 02 Mar 2012 : 10:26:02
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Originally posted by The Sage
Normally I would have pronounced it - BAY-EN-RAY, although the proper pronunciation stated by Faraer, as 'bah-EN-reh' definitely matches more to how I actually thought it would be pronounced.
Besides on the post from the link Faraer supplied, Elaine Cunningham also basically stated that "All vowels short, accent on second syllable".
Makes sense to me .
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Love the post. Took me a while to google it.
On topic (I apologize for resurrecting such an old topic) - does anyone know how to pronounce names from Baldur's Gate series?
Speaking of <ae>, why in drow it is (apparently) pronounced /aheh/, while in all other FR materials it's pronounced /ey/, as in /feyrun/...
Who came up with the FR pronunciation of <ae> as /ey/? |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 Mar 2012 : 12:26:25
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Ed, whereas Baenre is Bob's name; and I wouldn't extend its pronunciation to drow in general. I think that's all there is to it.
Which Baldur's Gate names do you have in mind? |
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Aulduron
Learned Scribe
USA
343 Posts |
Posted - 02 Mar 2012 : 18:48:09
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At least Jordan has a pronunciation guide at the back of each book.
Aoth is the latest name I've been wondering how to pronounce. |
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Lord Karsus
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USA
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Aulduron
Learned Scribe
USA
343 Posts |
Posted - 02 Mar 2012 : 19:08:30
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| Half the time my mind says Ay-oth, the other half it skips the A and says it Oth. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 02 Mar 2012 : 21:05:05
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| Submitted for your collective education- Baenre is actually (according to the "By Any Other Name: the Drow" name generator article in Dragon # 267, I believe it was) pronounced BANE-REH: "eh" like in pesto) and the article has a pronunciation guide, if memory serves. It also translates the meanings of both prefix and suffix name parts. There was also one in the 3.5 Drow of the Underdark book, with some of the same name parts, but with different meanings, and a small section on drow language. E is pronounced EE if there is an A or I before or after (as in Eilistraee, pronounced EEListrayEE) and EH if it is alone. I've done quite a bit of study into drow linguistics for some of my own tales, and for anyone interested in a full treatment, the drow translator on www.eilistraee.com has a complete dictionary/translator, with a pronunciation guied and grammar aid as well. One can soon be speaking fluent drow, with proper pronunciation with this little handy tool! (I occasionally curse at annoying customers in appropriately "colorful" drowish phrases, though always under my breath, of course....) |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
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Posted - 03 Mar 2012 : 15:34:52
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
Submitted for your collective education- Baenre is actually (according to the "By Any Other Name: the Drow" name generator article in Dragon # 267, I believe it was) pronounced BANE-REH: "eh" like in pesto) and the article has a pronunciation guide, if memory serves. It also translates the meanings of both prefix and suffix name parts. There was also one in the 3.5 Drow of the Underdark book, with some of the same name parts, but with different meanings, and a small section on drow language. E is pronounced EE if there is an A or I before or after (as in Eilistraee, pronounced EEListrayEE) and EH if it is alone. I've done quite a bit of study into drow linguistics for some of my own tales, and for anyone interested in a full treatment, the drow translator on www.eilistraee.com has a complete dictionary/translator, with a pronunciation guied and grammar aid as well. One can soon be speaking fluent drow, with proper pronunciation with this little handy tool! (I occasionally curse at annoying customers in appropriately "colorful" drowish phrases, though always under my breath, of course....)
There is a pronunciation guide at www.eilistraee.com? I never noticed. Point me, please... as for the rest, I've been using the Chosen of Eilistraee dictionary for a long time. |
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