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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 02 Feb 2008 :  09:26:10  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message
Reading Longtime Lurker's post, this comes to my mind: R.A. Salvatore, Ed, and Boyd are freelancers, so they'll still be around when the staffers at WotC get replaced by the next generation of designers... so although I hold no hope for 4E Realms, there *IS* the possibility that in the long-term, an *enlightened* WotC replacement staffer would pull a huge return to the future and forget those horrible "Days of Future Past"
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Tyr
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 02 Feb 2008 :  11:04:52  Show Profile  Visit Tyr's Homepage Send Tyr a Private Message
You can always hope but in companies the size of WoTC and bigger it ends up just being sales, which matter. ie. to avoid what happened to TSR.

Only problem is if 4th ed Realms bombs, then most likely it'll get dropped rather than revised.
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 02 Feb 2008 :  13:28:10  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight

Reading Longtime Lurker's post, this comes to my mind: R.A. Salvatore, Ed, and Boyd are freelancers, so they'll still be around when the staffers at WotC get replaced by the next generation of designers... so although I hold no hope for 4E Realms, there *IS* the possibility that in the long-term, an *enlightened* WotC replacement staffer would pull a huge return to the future and forget those horrible "Days of Future Past"




Heh, I just used "Days of Future Past" as an analogy when talking about this situation to Darkmeer last night.
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Alisttair
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Canada
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Posted - 05 Feb 2008 :  13:39:56  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Tyr

Only problem is if 4th ed Realms bombs, then most likely it'll get dropped rather than revised.



This is something I fear could happen....or they might just cut the game product line and ONLY continue the novel line.

Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)

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Dalor Darden
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USA
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Posted - 10 Feb 2008 :  19:07:55  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

quote:
Originally posted by Tyr

Only problem is if 4th ed Realms bombs, then most likely it'll get dropped rather than revised.



This is something I fear could happen....or they might just cut the game product line and ONLY continue the novel line.



As with Dragonlance.

The Old Grey Box and AD&D for me!
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Ardashir
Senior Scribe

USA
544 Posts

Posted - 21 Jul 2008 :  18:48:11  Show Profile  Visit Ardashir's Homepage Send Ardashir a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza
Bob understands the Realms are more then a collection of popular cities, it's about the people and the adventures one can have there. None of the "new" characters have struck my like Ed, Elaine, and Bob's have.


*nods* That's what I hate the most about all this from a fiction standpoint (I rarely get to play in the FR any more). I liked these characters and now they're gone because some marketing **** decided that killing them would please the fanboys because "they're too strong, my characters can't do anything!"

quote:
Most of Ed's will be dead.. from old age or from not being chosen anymore. Bob's characters are all in question.. I for one hope he doesn't advance his timeline. And Elaine.. well... who knows if she'll ever write the Realms again, but all of her characters except for 2 of them will be dead.


Well, we can always hope for some undead action... ;)
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Ardashir
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Posted - 21 Jul 2008 :  18:51:09  Show Profile  Visit Ardashir's Homepage Send Ardashir a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza

quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

He may not have a choice.


Maybe, maybe not. We've got 2 years before we find out. :)


Does anyone else find it terribly amusing that the Elminster books just got reprinted in the Anotated and now they're releasing all the Collected Edition Drizzt books until the Legends of heading when all of these books don't mean anything to the Realms anymore?



Truth be told, some of the stuff WoTC did at the very end (the Annotated Elminster, the Rules Compendium, etc.) seem almost like a slap in the face in retrospect. Sort of, "Ahah, here's what you fanboys wanted all this time, and we'll give it to you, now that it doesn't mean anything any more! Muwahaha!"
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire

USA
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Posted - 21 Jul 2008 :  19:33:49  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message
This is a thread I'd rather have not seen ressurected.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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IngoDjan
Learned Scribe

Brazil
146 Posts

Posted - 21 Jul 2008 :  20:10:40  Show Profile  Visit IngoDjan's Homepage Send IngoDjan a Private Message
Ed do not leader this ship nowadays! Just accept that! He is just a writer, only that! He already sold this trademark to TSR and now WotC!
Please, just ACCEPT THAT!

Ingo Djan
DUNGEON MASTER AO OF THE DIAMONDS!
"I see the future repeat the past. It all is a museum of great news. The Time do not stop."
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The Red Walker
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USA
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Posted - 21 Jul 2008 :  21:30:56  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message
I think this scroll has been agured several times in every possible way. I hate to see a scroll locked...but now may be the time.

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963

Edited by - The Red Walker on 21 Jul 2008 21:31:36
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sfdragon
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2285 Posts

Posted - 21 Jul 2008 :  22:37:22  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message
lock the thread

I know garbage when i see it, and this spells like 5 day old tuna fish


He sold it, now it will either sell or it will bomb out, along with dragonlance, following them, greyhawk and eberron will not be far behind

why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


My FR fan fiction
Magister's GAmbit
http://steelfiredragon.deviantart.com/gallery/33539234
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Stonwulfe
Seeker

Canada
81 Posts

Posted - 22 Jul 2008 :  04:22:05  Show Profile  Visit Stonwulfe's Homepage Send Stonwulfe a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Understood, but I think speculation about what a person's "true feelings" might be is something that should be avoided (regarding anybody here).


It's called a 'Fallacy of Intent'.

Edited by - Stonwulfe on 22 Jul 2008 04:23:16
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
31774 Posts

Posted - 22 Jul 2008 :  06:15:24  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message
I think this point has been debated enough. And given the recent trends of conversation here at Candlekeep about 4e, the future of the Realms, and the work of designers, I think it would be best to just close this scroll for now.

*Scroll sealed*

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