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Razz
Senior Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 25 Jan 2008 : 17:15:21
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Ok, no matter how many times I read the descriptions to the Evermoors, I always get this jumble of pure Limbo in my mind (D&D Limbo, that is, not Catholic Limbo).
Ok moors are, from what I've read, are highlands dominated by low vegetation and can be wet places with bogs strewn all about. I've seen a few images on Google and have somewhat of an idea.
So, I am guessing moorlands are, of course, above sea level?
Next, I read that the Evermoors are high plateaus. Plateaus are areas above sea level, typically high in altitude, that are mostly flat terrain. So, I assume the tops of these plateaus in the Evermoors are all wet, boggy, moorland and split here and there by steep-sided gullies (as described, and I looked up gullies and I can visualize that).
Now is the Evermoors one big plateau or several?
Next, the landscape is filled with tors and high rocks jutting all about. Ok, so huge, steep rock hills dot the wet, highland, flat plateaus split with many gullies. Got it so far...
Then I read that the soil is thin on the plateau so the place is gently rolling hills. Eh? Plateaus are usually flat?
Ok so, I am guessing, the Evermoors are high above sea level, littered with gullies and tors, gently rolling landscape, low vegetation, boggy, and its one big plateau (or is it several plateaus?) If it's several plateaus, I assume the landscape in between is just moorlands and bogs?
As you can see, I am just...lost on this visually. LOL Especially when trying to figure out wilderness terrain for any encounters in the region.
Could anyone correct me on this? Do I have it mostly right?
One more thing, is Nesme situated ATOP the Evermoors, or is it if you move away from Nesme heading into the Evermoors is begins to rise sharply. Cause Nesme is situated by a big river, the River Surbrin, so I assume the river is on a lower sea level than the Evermoors. Do I have this right?
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 25 Jan 2008 : 21:56:37
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So, first some more sources for the Evermoors (also called the Trollmoors BTW):
The North Guidebook has minor details. It is available at WOTC download page, IIRC. (Wooly got the link ready, right?!)
Also I recommand to you the Northern Journey West, available as download at Candlekeep. It has a detailed map of Nesme and some further great info. I don't know if all material included is canon, but it is most certainly as much canon in it as was possible at the time being.
And than there is Volo's Gude to the North. That tomb contains a map that places Nesme. It is located south of the river Surbrin, at the very northern edge of hte Evermoors.
Further, some Drizzt books are contain some info about Nesme. I know the Hunter Blade trilogy does for sure. But some older books do as well. I an't remember whioch ones though.
Hope that helps a bit.
Ergdusch
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Edited by - Ergdusch on 25 Jan 2008 21:58:28 |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 26 Jan 2008 : 01:29:47
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| RAS books cover the evermoors (trollmoors) a bit. Not sure which ones right off hand though |
Edited by - scererar on 26 Jan 2008 01:30:52 |
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Dalmar Amad
Seeker
Germany
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Posted - 26 Jan 2008 : 02:54:38
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quote:
Originally posted by scererar
RAS books cover the evermoors (trollmoors) a bit. Not sure which ones right off hand though
This would be Streams Of Silver, right? |
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Razz
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 26 Jan 2008 : 08:34:08
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| I've read those, I'm just concerned about how to visualize the Evermoors properly. What exactly does it look like? Is there a real-world picture of some landscape that best fits the description of the Evermoors? |
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LordArcana
Seeker
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Posted - 26 Jan 2008 : 13:08:43
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Personally i see the "moors" as once massive area of land that at all points maintiants itself above sea level as you say, but the surface of the entire moor is not perfectly flat. a Plateau is a "shelf" of the landscape. Imagine (not implying it is however) that the entire Evermoors is composed of slate. After years of wind and water erroision some of the slate has particalized forming dirt allowing trees and scrubs to grow. Areas that have worn down into dust have created small rolling hills. Larger sections of the slate have been torn away while more dense and secrure portions have withstood the test of time which gives rise to tors and ebs.
To envision i imagine a mix between a desert landscape where you see massive stone structures standing in a sea of sand, but instead of sand the stone butes rise from a mixture of marshland overgrown with light wet vegetation, rocky spiked "foothills", mild woodlands (Usually pines and fers) and a gentle valley holding ponds and swamps.
Remember the cool thing about plateaus is there is usually rough jagged edges leading either up to another "shelf" or down to another "shelf" (or the ground). The paths up and down can be open or boxed in like a canyon. |
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maelbor arastorin
Acolyte
Canada
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Posted - 15 Apr 2008 : 04:14:06
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Take a look at some photos of remote areas of Scotland, the Lake District in England - perhaps even parts of Iceland and I think you'll get an idea of what real moors look like: wet, boggy to the point of sucking you into the cold. black mud, large granite boulders jutting out here and there, dead-looking brown grass, small hills and crevases here and there - occasional trees, usually lining small streams in the bottoms of the crevases - cold, damp and grey generally. Pretty unpleasant places over all... :)
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Afetbinttuzani
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Canada
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Posted - 15 Apr 2008 : 06:00:18
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Yes, the moors of the British Isles are how I envision them. Try Googling images of Rannoch Moor for example or Hathersage Moor. Plateaus are not usually flat. They are an area of rocky higher ground, that has managed to collect a thin layer of soil and tends to trap moisture in basins. Hence the combination of bogs, rocks, ravines and lakes.
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Afet bint Tuzaní
"As the good Archmage often admonishes me, I ought not to let my mind wander, as it's too small to go off by itself."
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maelbor arastorin
Acolyte
Canada
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Posted - 15 Apr 2008 : 16:52:42
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Yes - I agree with the above poster. Keep in mind that these areas tend to rain about 320 days of the year too... In the uk peat tends to predominate in these areas, and it makes for pretty filthy, rank-looking water, black bogs, and very little plant life beyond extremely hardy grasses etc. Not somewhere you'd really want to live... heheh.
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Help me visualize the Evermoors
