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SirUrza
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Posted - 13 Jan 2008 :  19:16:30  Show Profile Send SirUrza a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I'm not really going to push for this because I don't care, but since there's such a huge time gap between Pre and Post Spellplauge Realms, perhaps there could be 2 General forums, one for discussion about the old and another for the new? Just a suggestion. *shrugs*

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Jorkens
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Posted - 13 Jan 2008 :  19:49:15  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, speaking for myself of course I would prefer that we wait until the 4ed. comes out before we start changing things so that we see how the posting habits and topics change. If at all. But any changes are wholly up to Alaundo of course.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 14 Jan 2008 :  02:16:24  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am against anything that divides fans of the setting into any kind of separate groups. Obviously, that includes the Spellplague, but that's a WotC delineation.

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Kentinal
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Posted - 14 Jan 2008 :  03:01:30  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would add, at this point in time there is very little 4th to discuss in the first place.

It is a bad idea, dividing the forum 2nd and 3rd was not considered a good idea because it becomes a divider. There has never been any real problem dicussing rules (If Edition was noted) or the setting.

With the range of changes outlined, all that might be needed is year indication or Edition being discussed.

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The Sage
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Posted - 14 Jan 2008 :  05:57:13  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think it's a little early to decide something like this. We still haven't received any official 4e publications as yet, and most of the current discussions pertain to future developments... which are still appropriate topics for the existing subforums here.

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SirUrza
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Posted - 15 Jan 2008 :  21:03:26  Show Profile Send SirUrza a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm not suggesting dividing the fans, there's just a HUGE lore difference between 3E and 4E then there is between AD&D and 3E. Most of the AD&D Realms stuff was still relevant in 3E. Not so when you talk about 4E lore, 1000 years even without spellplague changes a lot.

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Edited by - SirUrza on 15 Jan 2008 21:04:04
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Hawkins
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Posted - 16 Jan 2008 :  00:41:37  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza

I'm not suggesting dividing the fans, there's just a HUGE lore difference between 3E and 4E then there is between AD&D and 3E. Most of the AD&D Realms stuff was still relevant in 3E. Not so when you talk about 4E lore, 1000 years even without spellplague changes a lot.

Did you happen to mean 104 years?

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SirUrza
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Posted - 16 Jan 2008 :  02:22:22  Show Profile Send SirUrza a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah yeah yeah, I keep typing a 1000 years.. I've done in 4 times and almost a 5 time because I'm in such a rage to get what I'm typing posted. :P

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Markustay
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Posted - 17 Jan 2008 :  00:56:31  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would be against any divisions as well - like so many settings before it, that would spell disaster for the brand.

I think just about everybody here can get along well enough for this not to become a problem. Lore is lore, after all.

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SirUrza
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Posted - 17 Jan 2008 :  04:10:38  Show Profile Send SirUrza a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's not about problems, its about being able to find relevant lore to the time period you're looking for.

Searching for.... Waterdeep.. for example on here is going to yield A LOT of results not relevant to someone playing post-Spellplague.

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Ergdusch
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Posted - 17 Jan 2008 :  08:32:40  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza

It's not about problems, its about being able to find relevant lore to the time period you're looking for.

Searching for.... Waterdeep.. for example on here is going to yield A LOT of results not relevant to someone playing post-Spellplague.



Narrowing the search down by coice of words would help.

Now, I have to say that we have too little info on the 4th Ed as of yet to think of a devision already. If it seems to become a problem later on - fine with me. But until than I rather have all of us scribes at one place.

BTW - I would prefer to have a special 4th Ed. section in the forums (like we have for products, novels and general discussion) rather than a new forum entirely. THis way we keep everything together in one great research and reading hall here in Candlekeep.

Thats my two cents on this....

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Hawkins
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Posted - 17 Jan 2008 :  17:18:00  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

I would be against any divisions as well - like so many settings before it, that would spell disaster for the brand.

I think just about everybody here can get along well enough for this not to become a problem. Lore is lore, after all.

The 4e Realms themselves might spell disaster to the brand. But we will have to wait and see on that one. I also want to continue to encourage people to go to their local game/book/hobby store and check out the FRCG (and maybe the FRPG) before buying or not it, whether they are currently for or against or neutral to the changes.

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He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

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* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)

Edited by - Hawkins on 17 Jan 2008 17:18:43
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