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Diffan
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Posted - 14 Nov 2010 :  04:06:31  Show Profile Send Diffan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

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Anyone familiar with 4eFR please chime-in - do the Shades trade with others, like a normal state would?



Hmmm...that's a pretty good question. One part of me wants to say yes. As a growing nation, they need resources that aren't readily available within their still fertal-growing lands. But on the other, I don't see their neighbors being very kind and trading with them too. I think, for the most part they do most of their trading through Sembia and possibly a little here and there on their Western borders (save for Evereska and Elturgard).
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Alisttair
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Posted - 15 Nov 2010 :  12:21:14  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

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The map that accompanied this product showed a road going off into the desert.

Anyone know anything about this? It isn't on the Loudwater map in the FRCS. Was there a purpose for this? I am not that familiar with the adventure itself, but I do not see it mentioned anywhere, so I have to wonder as to why it was drawn that way.

Anyone familiar with 4eFR please chime-in - do the Shades trade with others, like a normal state would?



I'm currently running this adventure but don't have it with me here. On which map are you referring. not the one of Spellgard itself right, but one of the ones with the surrounding area?

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Alisttair
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Posted - 16 Nov 2010 :  11:59:05  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I looked at it last night. Do you mean the path heading east on the overland map? If so, I believe you mean the road going off into the "former desert", which is now the lush grassland (ok, maybe not lush, but no longer a desert) of Netheril. I imagine it was drawn so as to point DMs into having the adventure move onward into Netheril perhaps (or as a suggestion as such)...I plan on using Netheril, but I don't see my group heading in that direction with the nefarious scheme I have in mind.

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Edited by - Alisttair on 16 Nov 2010 11:59:26
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Diffan
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Posted - 22 Nov 2010 :  15:33:50  Show Profile Send Diffan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And to think, before I picked up this adventure I was under the impression that this adventure took place in the wizard's prison near Athkatla. Wasn't that called Spellgard too?
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Alisttair
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Posted - 23 Nov 2010 :  18:19:14  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Diffan

And to think, before I picked up this adventure I was under the impression that this adventure took place in the wizard's prison near Athkatla. Wasn't that called Spellgard too?



Spellhold??? (I think...)

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 23 Nov 2010 :  20:53:45  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Diffan

And to think, before I picked up this adventure I was under the impression that this adventure took place in the wizard's prison near Athkatla. Wasn't that called Spellgard too?



Azkaban.

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The Sage
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Posted - 24 Nov 2010 :  00:01:37  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Allistair is correct. 'Tis Spellhold.

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Alisttair
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Posted - 24 Nov 2010 :  11:58:49  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Allistair is correct. 'Tis Spellhold.



Thanks Sage. I actually thought about it again last night, but decided against turning on my computer and playing the game until the information was revealed

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Diffan
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Posted - 24 Nov 2010 :  16:18:58  Show Profile Send Diffan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ahhh, that's it! I knew it was close to Spellgard. Thanks Sage.
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Ruul
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Posted - 24 Nov 2010 :  16:21:05  Show Profile  Visit Ruul's Homepage Send Ruul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Diffan

And to think, before I picked up this adventure I was under the impression that this adventure took place in the wizard's prison near Athkatla. Wasn't that called Spellgard too?



Azkaban.



Haha!
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Alisttair
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 :  11:36:03  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ruul

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Diffan

And to think, before I picked up this adventure I was under the impression that this adventure took place in the wizard's prison near Athkatla. Wasn't that called Spellgard too?



Azkaban.



Haha!



Bah, more Harry Potsmoker...

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Alisttair
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 :  15:25:44  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know the answer to this...was Spellgard (then known as Saharelgard) a floating enclave that plummeted at the fall of Netheril, or was it always located where it currently is?

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Mr_Miscellany
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 :  16:30:42  Show Profile Send Mr_Miscellany a Private Message  Reply with Quote
IDHTAIFOM, but I'm pretty sure Saharelguard was always a fixed location.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 :  18:19:56  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr_Miscellany

IDHTAIFOM, but I'm pretty sure Saharelguard was always a fixed location.



Okay, that acronym really threw me for several seconds!

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Christopher_Rowe
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 :  18:22:51  Show Profile  Visit Christopher_Rowe's Homepage Send Christopher_Rowe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm still don't confused, I think. I don't have the atlas in front of me, maybe?


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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 :  18:54:52  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Christopher_Rowe

I'm still don't confused, I think. I don't have the atlas in front of me, maybe?





Either that or I Don't Have The Adventure In Front Of Me. I think it's the latter.

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Mr_Miscellany
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 :  18:56:11  Show Profile Send Mr_Miscellany a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My bad. The acronym means I Don't Have The Adventure In Front Of Me. It's a play on IDHTBIFOM (B is for book), which was an acronym I first saw about 10 years ago and was used by people who answered (e-)mailing list questions from work or while away from their book collection.
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Alisttair
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 :  19:04:00  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My aching brain

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