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Ozzalum
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Posted - 19 Dec 2007 :  22:59:22  Show Profile  Visit Ozzalum's Homepage Send Ozzalum a Private Message  Delete Topic
Through the use of truly ingenious magic, Candlekeep’s first full length novel will be made available to all scribes for free. All you need is a rodent familiar and a common Mirror of Web Browsing.

The tome tells of the momentous events that began in the Firesteap Mountain in the Year of The Bent Blade, 1376 by Dale Reckoning. The tale centers on Ehric Graimen, a young man of the mountains, knowledgeable both in wilderness lore and the arcane arts. He is accustomed to dealing with various tribes of humanoids (Orcs and Ogres) that live in the region, but when a new menace rises, the sorcerer finds his skills are poorly suited for what he must do to survive.

The scribe who captured these events on paper does not want to reveal too much but adds this…

"It was the nature of the men and women (and monsters) that made me want to tell this tale. The events themselves were noteworthy to be sure, but in researching the main participants, I found I was compelled to tell more than the outcome of battles, the new lines drawn on the maps, and the final tally of the dead. And so you will find in these pages the thoughts and feelings of those most involved in the drama that so recently unfolded in the south. I want any scholar about to take up this tome to know that this research did at times require the use of the Necromantic Arts. You are forewarned."

Alaundo
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Posted - 19 Dec 2007 :  23:28:20  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message
Well met

Indeed. Ozzalum's novel will be available shortly. I currently have a bound hardcopy (kindly sent by Ozzalum), which i'm reading at the moment, and urge readers to delve into this tale and kindly give feedback to the authors. I know he'll appreciate it

Watch this space

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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 19 Dec 2007 :  23:30:36  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message
I've got every Compendium downloaded. There's no no way I'd miss this.

*eagerly awaiting it's release*

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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Ozzalum
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Posted - 20 Dec 2007 :  01:57:26  Show Profile  Visit Ozzalum's Homepage Send Ozzalum a Private Message
The cover can be found at the link below.

Fates' Guide Cover

It's not all about a mountain man.
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Ranak
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Posted - 20 Dec 2007 :  03:19:11  Show Profile  Visit Ranak's Homepage Send Ranak a Private Message
I too look forward to reading this tome!
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Ergdusch
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Posted - 20 Dec 2007 :  08:02:20  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message
Intriguing........

"Das Gras weht im Wind, wenn der Wind weht."
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LordArcana
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Posted - 20 Dec 2007 :  08:35:59  Show Profile  Visit LordArcana's Homepage Send LordArcana a Private Message
This is a very good sign to find on my lunch. I greatly look forward to reading this.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 20 Dec 2007 :  18:53:56  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
Wow, this is quite an accomplishment! I look forward to reading it.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 20 Dec 2007 :  20:40:54  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message
I have read 2/3 so far, I think you all will enjoy it.

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Hawkins
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Posted - 20 Dec 2007 :  21:41:05  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message
I just wish I could get it in a print version. Reading novels on the PC hurts my eyes.

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One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane

* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives

My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Ozzalum
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USA
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Posted - 20 Dec 2007 :  22:09:22  Show Profile  Visit Ozzalum's Homepage Send Ozzalum a Private Message
quote:
I just wish I could get it in a print version. Reading novels on the PC hurts my eyes.


That's an interesting topic. I agree with you, having read the book maybe a dozen or so times on a computer screen and then again in paperback. The only problem is that it is not an insignificant expense to print and bind a book. It's not outrageous by any means but runs a little over twice the cost of a standard paperback to print the whole thing at Staples.

However, since I keep saying I want to be a writer, I should be willing to put my money where my mouth is. All I'd ask is that you give the first few chapters a try on the computer and see if you can stomach my writing style. If you can, send me a PM and I'll get to work book binding. I probably shouldn't complain too loudly about the problem of too many people requesting my book, if it comes to that.
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Hawkins
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USA
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Posted - 20 Dec 2007 :  23:03:12  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ozzalum

quote:
I just wish I could get it in a print version. Reading novels on the PC hurts my eyes.

That's an interesting topic. I agree with you, having read the book maybe a dozen or so times on a computer screen and then again in paperback. The only problem is that it is not an insignificant expense to print and bind a book. It's not outrageous by any means but runs a little over twice the cost of a standard paperback to print the whole thing at Staples.

However, since I keep saying I want to be a writer, I should be willing to put my money where my mouth is. All I'd ask is that you give the first few chapters a try on the computer and see if you can stomach my writing style. If you can, send me a PM and I'll get to work book binding. I probably shouldn't complain too loudly about the problem of too many people requesting my book, if it comes to that.

Lol. That sounds more than adequately fair.

Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)

One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane

* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives

My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Pasta Fzoul
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  04:56:05  Show Profile Send Pasta Fzoul a Private Message
Ozzalum, have you considered http://www.lulu.com/ or a similar service?
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Ozzalum
Learned Scribe

USA
277 Posts

Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  13:13:06  Show Profile  Visit Ozzalum's Homepage Send Ozzalum a Private Message
The man with the best screen name ever shows up to give advice.
quote:
Ozzalum, have you considered http://www.lulu.com/ or a similar service?

I had not but I will. Thanks.

EDIT: That saves me at least 33% and a lot of gluing. Thanks Evil Pasta Man!

Edited by - Ozzalum on 21 Dec 2007 14:23:45
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Karzak
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  16:23:02  Show Profile  Visit Karzak's Homepage Send Karzak a Private Message
...since this is fanfiction, what's the legality of this, especially if you take money for a hard copy (even only to cover shipping and printing cost)?
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Ozzalum
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  16:34:40  Show Profile  Visit Ozzalum's Homepage Send Ozzalum a Private Message
quote:
...since this is fanfiction, what's the legality of this, especially if you take money for a hard copy (even only to cover shipping and printing cost)?


I'm not taking any money. It was my intention to cover these costs myself. If that wasn't clear, I want it to be now. If you want a copy of the book in paper form, I will send you one on my own dime. What's a writer's life about, if not losing money?

Again, read a few chapters on the computer when it is available, to see if you can tolerate my writing before asking for a hard copy.

And on the topic of fanfic. This is technically fan fiction but I don't want perspective readers to think I wrote a book titled The Continued Adventures of Drizzt or something. These are my own characters almost exclusively.
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Karzak
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  16:46:45  Show Profile  Visit Karzak's Homepage Send Karzak a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ozzalum

quote:
...since this is fanfiction, what's the legality of this, especially if you take money for a hard copy (even only to cover shipping and printing cost)?


I'm not taking any money. It was my intention to cover these costs myself. If that wasn't clear, I want it to be now. If you want a copy of the book in paper form, I will send you one on my own dime. What's a writer's life about, if not losing money?


Er, actually, money should flow toward the writer, not the other way around. It's not about losing money, but earning it. Just saying.

quote:
And on the topic of fanfic. This is technically fan fiction but I don't want perspective readers to think I wrote a book titled The Continued Adventures of Drizzt or something. These are my own characters almost exclusively.


Yeah, so? Go to any archive with fanfiction attached to an open-ended setting - Warcraft, Warhammer, Dragonlance, Star Wars - and you'll find plenty of people writing about "their own" characters.

I'll probably take a look at it, at any rate.
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Ozzalum
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  16:57:13  Show Profile  Visit Ozzalum's Homepage Send Ozzalum a Private Message
I wasn't trying to start an argument. I'm just not sufficiently knowledgeable of the fan fiction community to know if there are different terms used to describe fiction involving characters already well defined by another author and stories involving new characters. I know some folks have strong feelings about the former I wanted to say that's not the kind of book I wrote.

And the money losing thing was kind of tongue-in-cheek. I'd love to be able to make money writing but that would be quite illegal with this work.

I really need to use emoticons more. Sorry.

Oh and thanks for saying you'll give it a read. I really want the largest, most critical (constructive and otherwise) audience I can.

EDIT: Karzak said,
quote:
I'll probably take a look at it, at any rate.


I can't endorse that kind of waffling position. Come on man, read it until its badness forces you to pan it in these pages. This "probably going to take a look" talk makes me sick.
Cover Art is for looking at.

Edited by - Ozzalum on 21 Dec 2007 17:13:19
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Aravine
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  17:11:42  Show Profile  Visit Aravine's Homepage Send Aravine a Private Message
I'd be happy to read and reveiw. I might bring a fresh aspect to it, since I haven't read an FR books

The brave don't live forever,the cautious don't live at all
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Aravine
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  17:25:09  Show Profile  Visit Aravine's Homepage Send Aravine a Private Message
quote:
[i]
Cover Art is for looking at.



Not if your school blocks google images it isn't

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Karzak
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  17:32:40  Show Profile  Visit Karzak's Homepage Send Karzak a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ozzalum

EDIT: Karzak said,
quote:
I'll probably take a look at it, at any rate.


I can't endorse that kind of waffling position. Come on man, read it until its badness forces you to pan it in these pages. This "probably going to take a look" talk makes me sick.
Cover Art is for looking at.



Okay, okay. I'll read it unless I'm being distracted by a shiny RPG or Internet-hating aliens have kidnapped me/my PC has blown up. :P
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Aravine
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  17:50:39  Show Profile  Visit Aravine's Homepage Send Aravine a Private Message
Everyone's a cynic...

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Ozzalum
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  18:12:43  Show Profile  Visit Ozzalum's Homepage Send Ozzalum a Private Message
quote:
Okay, okay. I'll read it unless I'm being distracted by a shiny RPG or Internet-hating aliens have kidnapped me/my PC has blown up. :P


Those are the same conditions I had when writing it.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  19:22:18  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ozzalum

I wasn't trying to start an argument. I'm just not sufficiently knowledgeable of the fan fiction community to know if there are different terms used to describe fiction involving characters already well defined by another author and stories involving new characters. I know some folks have strong feelings about the former I wanted to say that's not the kind of book I wrote.



This novel would be fan-fiction (as you aren't using your own setting, and you aren't writing on behalf of WotC), but as long as you aren't making money off it, and you aren't, it's perfectly legal.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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Ozzalum
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  19:55:17  Show Profile  Visit Ozzalum's Homepage Send Ozzalum a Private Message
quote:
This novel would be fan-fiction (as you aren't using your own setting, and you aren't writing on behalf of WotC), but as long as you aren't making money off it, and you aren't, it's perfectly legal.


Completely agree.

Before you get to actually reading, what do people think of the cover art? Can I fall back to interior artist for sourcebooks if this writing thing doesn't work out?
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  20:14:06  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ozzalum


Before you get to actually reading, what do people think of the cover art?



I like!

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  20:36:20  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message
I'm really looking foward to this, but I'd feel bad accepting a printed copy that you paid for out of your own pocket. Is there going to be an electronic version that I can print out myself to save you the costs?

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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Ozzalum
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  20:41:14  Show Profile  Visit Ozzalum's Homepage Send Ozzalum a Private Message
quote:
I'm really looking foward to this, but I'd feel bad accepting a printed copy that you paid for out of your own pocket. Is there going to be an electronic version that I can print out myself to save you the costs?


Of course. This talk of printed copies is for those people that really hate reading books on the computer. The electronic version will be formatted to look similar to a paperback in terms of lines and words to a page. Printing your own copy if you want to shouldn't be a problem.
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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  20:46:03  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message
Good to hear. It's nice working at a copy and print place on slow days. I can sit here and print Realms-stuff all day for my home collection.

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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Karzak
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  21:32:29  Show Profile  Visit Karzak's Homepage Send Karzak a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by Ozzalum

I wasn't trying to start an argument. I'm just not sufficiently knowledgeable of the fan fiction community to know if there are different terms used to describe fiction involving characters already well defined by another author and stories involving new characters. I know some folks have strong feelings about the former I wanted to say that's not the kind of book I wrote.



This novel would be fan-fiction (as you aren't using your own setting, and you aren't writing on behalf of WotC), but as long as you aren't making money off it, and you aren't, it's perfectly legal.



It's not perfectly legal even when money's not being made, actually: it's dubious - and more of a "don't ask, don't tell" kind of thing than "pristine shiny perfectly legal."
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Ozzalum
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USA
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Posted - 21 Dec 2007 :  22:00:31  Show Profile  Visit Ozzalum's Homepage Send Ozzalum a Private Message
quote:
It's not perfectly legal even when money's not being made, actually: it's dubious - and more of a "don't ask, don't tell" kind of thing than "pristine shiny perfectly legal."


I'm not sure how to respond, but I'm pretty sure I'm not worried. If WotC notices this and decides that I have made a mockery of their setting, I'm sure they will let me know. It seems unlikely that they will notice or would care if they did but maybe I'm way off base in thinking that.

EDIT: After a quick look at Wikipedia I'd say the worst that could happen is someone from WotC tells me to stop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_issues_with_fan_fiction

Gotta love this real world stuff.

Edited by - Ozzalum on 21 Dec 2007 22:16:00
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