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Ayunken-vanzan
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Posted - 05 Sep 2008 :  07:01:08  Show Profile  Visit Ayunken-vanzan's Homepage Send Ayunken-vanzan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Curst_Lanan

EDIT: The Kir-Lanans want to kill gods. All of them. Being invincible is pretty much the only way.



Only if they want to be successful. Of course, this what they want, but the GM may have other wishes.

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Calmar
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Posted - 05 Sep 2008 :  12:39:17  Show Profile Send Calmar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kir-Lanans got funny tails.

I don't know... It's handy for DMs that the kir-lanans can cooperate temporarily with servants of one faith to damage another im 3ed, but that such short arrangements result in becoming servants of a deity heavily diminishes the originality of the race. That's just like demoting the baatezu to deific servants just because they sometimes work for or with evil deities.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 05 Sep 2008 :  13:29:11  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Curst_Lanan

EDIT: The Kir-Lanans want to kill gods. All of them. Being invincible is pretty much the only way.



Again, why? To accomplish their goals, they don't have to act directly against the gods, and they don't even have to get into that much combat. So why do they need to be invincible?

All they have to do is kill off all of a deity's worshippers. And there are plenty of ways to do that, most notably by playing one clergy off of another. Hiring adventurers to trash temples also works. Played intelligently, the kir-lanans can do a lot of damage without ever even showing themselves.

They don't need to be invincible, because they don't need to fight anyone.

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Curst_Lanan
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Posted - 05 Sep 2008 :  17:49:48  Show Profile  Visit Curst_Lanan's Homepage Send Curst_Lanan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Again, why? To accomplish their goals, they don't have to act directly against the gods, and they don't even have to get into that much combat. So why do they need to be invincible?



Kir-Lanans are chaotic evil, not lawful evil. They haven't been known to play intelligently in the past. Being motivated by pure hatred leads them towards simple physical gratification. The reason they go after worshipers is because they know they can't kill gods. They have begun to watch and learn other races and cultures from the shadows, to better kill them, but they aren't really subtle.

They're like Necromongers; no one's heard of them because they don't leave anyone to spread the word. Teaming up with Shar's disciples would probably lead them to using the mastermind puppet-strings tactic, but honestly, it's been done so many times before that it's not very interesting.

In what I've read, the Kir-Lanans are a race of evil creatures that want to destroy everybody without discretion or relent. They breed more quickly than they die, and they don't die easily, either. It makes me think that they could be some up and coming force to unite against, whether you're a good pc or an evil one. More of a chaos vs. law setting.
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