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Chataro
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Posted - 18 Oct 2007 :  15:22:29  Show Profile  Visit Chataro's Homepage Send Chataro a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I remember reading somewhere that in Lisa Smeidman's novel if I recall correctly, that there is a spell to remove all memories of a word and that they were planning to kill Kiaransaralee with it. The people in this forum all believe that it can't actually be done even if the spell was successfully cast.

And then I remember that for Torm, if everyone forgets the word, "duty" and "loyalty", TOrm would die, Would any evil torm hater get an inspiration and start learning the spell?

Alisttair
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Posted - 18 Oct 2007 :  16:50:39  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OMG that sounds like a pretty powerful spell...must be epic level.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 18 Oct 2007 :  18:17:14  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chataro


And then I remember that for Torm, if everyone forgets the word, "duty" and "loyalty", TOrm would die, Would any evil torm hater get an inspiration and start learning the spell?



I guess that's all that would be needed, now, since apparently you can now kill gods in such a manner.

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sparhawk42
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Posted - 18 Oct 2007 :  18:28:16  Show Profile  Visit sparhawk42's Homepage Send sparhawk42 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chataro

I remember reading somewhere that in Lisa Smeidman's novel if I recall correctly, that there is a spell to remove all memories of a word and that they were planning to kill Kiaransaralee with it. The people in this forum all believe that it can't actually be done even if the spell was successfully cast.

And then I remember that for Torm, if everyone forgets the word, "duty" and "loyalty", TOrm would die, Would any evil torm hater get an inspiration and start learning the spell?



Would that work even if the spell functioned correctly and removed all memories of a word from the world? Would it really kill off a god. I mean just because the words "duty" and "loyalty" vanish does not mean their meanings and what they stand for in the world does.

quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

OMG that sounds like a pretty powerful spell...must be epic level.



Indeed a spell such as that would seem to have to epic. Although to me it just seems epically silly. But to each their own.

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Edited by - sparhawk42 on 18 Oct 2007 18:28:42
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Caedwyr
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Posted - 18 Oct 2007 :  23:58:45  Show Profile  Visit Caedwyr's Homepage Send Caedwyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chataro
And then I remember that for Torm, if everyone forgets the word, "duty" and "loyalty", TOrm would die, Would any evil torm hater get an inspiration and start learning the spell?



Fortunately, most Prime Material Planes have more than one language.
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Chataro
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Posted - 19 Oct 2007 :  14:34:32  Show Profile  Visit Chataro's Homepage Send Chataro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The spell can most likely be casted more than once too. And can you imagine whats gonna happen if Elminster in a particularly pranksome mood decided to remove some annoying words.

e.g. Toilet

e.g. Hi

e.g. Last word of a spell e.g. fireball

and last but not least, a single syllable e.g. ah.........
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Valten
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Posted - 19 Oct 2007 :  22:12:44  Show Profile  Visit Valten's Homepage Send Valten a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I remember that passage, but it may not have been meant literally as it seemed. It could be if Torm himself fell away from those two main principles.
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Chataro
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Posted - 20 Oct 2007 :  16:48:36  Show Profile  Visit Chataro's Homepage Send Chataro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow, can you imagine what the clerics of torm would do if they find out that their constant memorizing of "duty" was actually a result of miscommunication? If it were me, 'll probably flip and destroy the closest Torm temple I can find
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nbnmare
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Posted - 23 Nov 2007 :  12:21:41  Show Profile  Visit nbnmare's Homepage Send nbnmare a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The spell in question isn't epic magic, it's high magic... and if high magic can flood and split apart entire countries (one such act inadvertently leading to the Sundering), cause the Rage of Dragons, and create at least two other planes of existence (the Nexus and Sildëyuir) then I rather think it would be capable of this, too .

Also, consider that the Imaskari managed to create their own plane of existence (the Celestial Nadir) and bar an entire pantheon of gods from Toril even without high magic, that a lone drow performed a ritual which ended up allowing drow magic to function on the surface again... and, of course, that "normal" magic (albeit magic which afterwards was no longer possible) allowed a single mortal to steal the portfolio of the goddess of magic.

Incidentally, the spell to remove a word from every living creature's memory wouldn't be especially easy to cast again. Even if you could find half a dozen or so spellcasters who are both powerful enough to participate and have a vested interest in the result, the knowledge of how to to cast the spell only exists in a set of kiira created by ancient dark elves. These stones normally kill anyone not descended from their creators them who tries to wear them, though in this particular instance the sentiences within them agree to being worn temporarily in order to save the drow race.

Edited by - nbnmare on 23 Nov 2007 12:37:03
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