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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
 Posted - 15 Oct 2007 : 19:30:35
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So, with the advent of 4e, I should soon be able to finish my collection of 3e Realms supplements. After that, I was thinking about starting to collect 2e (or before) Realms supplements, so I thought I would ask you guys who have been playing/GMing in the Realms for awhile now which ones were your favorites. I have quite a few 2e books in PDF, but I have trouble concentrating on reading them on the computer, so I want to buy some print editions.
Thanks,
Hawkins
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Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
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* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Edited by - Hawkins on 15 Oct 2007 19:34:15
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2007 : 19:43:47
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The deity trilogy, Faiths & Avatars, Powers & Pantheons, Demihuman Deities, is a must for me, except, well, a lot of that lore will probably be even more dated come 4e.
The Volo's Guides are also a must. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2007 : 20:01:21
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In addition to those Kuje mentioned. The Forgotten Realms adventure book is great, the priest info is repeated in the deity books, but the city information and spells are great. Both the 1ed and 2ed. campaign settings, and the Dwarven deep book are clear choices.
I could go on and on about this you know. The Shining South, Anauroch, Lands of Intrigue, Elves of Evermeet... You get the idea. |
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Apex
Learned Scribe
USA
229 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2007 : 20:03:05
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| The Gray Box Set so you can see the Realms as they were originally envisioned before mass marketing. I would also recommend the trail map for its uniqueness and FR2 The Moonshaes, since I do not believe that region has been updated in a stand alone since 1st edition. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36805 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2007 : 21:52:36
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All of them, duh! 
But, if you're going on a smaller budget, then I'll echo Kuje, and add Cloak & Dagger.  |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2007 : 22:23:51
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
All of them, duh!
But, if you're going on a smaller budget, then I'll echo Kuje, and add Cloak & Dagger.
That sounds like a good start. Thanks for everyone's input. |
Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Zanan
Senior Scribe
Germany
942 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2007 : 23:53:10
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Before you start buying, check the download section of the Wizards ...
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads
... for really good freebies such as
- Cormanthyr - Empire of Elves
- The Fall of Myth Drannor
- Calimport
- Lands of Intrigue
- Vilhon Reach
- Villains' Lorebook
- The Cult of the Dragon
- For Duty & Deity (Freeing Waukeen from Grazz't in Planescape-ish fashion))
- The North
- various Volo's too
Cloak & Dagger, Skullport, the Spellbound and the Menzoberranzan box maybe? And, of course, Ed's very own The Drow of the Underdark plus Drizzt do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark. |
Cave quid dicis, quando et cui!
Gæð a wyrd swa hio scel!
In memory of Alura Durshavin.
Visit my "Homepage" to find A Guide to the Drow NPCs of Faerûn, Drow and non-Drow PrC and much more. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2007 : 23:58:05
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quote:
Originally posted by Zanan
Before you start buying, check the download section of the Wizards ...
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads
... for really good freebies such as
- Cormanthyr - Empire of Elves
- The Fall of Myth Drannor
- Calimport
- Lands of Intrigue
- Vilhon Reach
- Villains' Lorebook
- The Cult of the Dragon
- For Duty & Deity (Freeing Waukeen from Grazz't in Planescape-ish fashion))
- The North
- various Volo's too
Cloak & Dagger, Skullport, the Spellbound and the Menzoberranzan box maybe? And, of course, Ed's very own The Drow of the Underdark plus Drizzt do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark.
As I mentioned in the first post (though not in explicit terms), I have downloaded all the free 2e Realms products. I also went and bought the PDF of the Kara-Tur campaign setting. But trying to read them on a computer doesn't work for me. It is fine for referencing materials when concocting an adventure, but not so good for curling up on the couch for a read. Thanks for your other suggestions though. |
Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Zanan
Senior Scribe
Germany
942 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2007 : 10:12:22
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I just pointed out the really really good ones amongst those downloads ;-)
BTW, the Hellgate Keep adventure is also quite good, shedding some light on the Dlardrageths and Kaanyr Vhok and Aliisza. |
Cave quid dicis, quando et cui!
Gæð a wyrd swa hio scel!
In memory of Alura Durshavin.
Visit my "Homepage" to find A Guide to the Drow NPCs of Faerûn, Drow and non-Drow PrC and much more. |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2007 : 16:35:22
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Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue
And the Calimport boxed set and the Calimshan book separately are pretty good if youw ant to adventure down there. |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/172023 |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2007 : 20:54:54
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| Hmm, can you print out stuff you download? I know it's not the same as a book, but it might save you some money, if that's a concern. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2007 : 21:00:49
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Hmm, can you print out stuff you download? I know it's not the same as a book, but it might save you some money, if that's a concern.
I really hate doing that. I think I will just start looking for them on Amazon, eBay and StudentShopper. |
Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2007 : 21:01:58
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quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Hmm, can you print out stuff you download? I know it's not the same as a book, but it might save you some money, if that's a concern.
I really hate doing that. I think I will just start looking for them on Amazon, eBay and StudentShopper.
nobleknight.com is also good and he ships internationally. I've done biz with him for years and sent many customers his way, even if he didn't know it. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
Scribe for the Candlekeep Compendium |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2007 : 21:05:26
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| Agreed, nobleknight.com is a great place to shop. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2007 : 21:39:47
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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
nobleknight.com is also good and he ships internationally. I've done biz with him for years and sent many customers his way, even if he didn't know it.
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Agreed, nobleknight.com is a great place to shop.
I've checked them out before too. I just wish that the Stronghold Builder's Guide wasn't so expensive even used.  |
Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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dragonfriend
Seeker
Italy
65 Posts |
Posted - 18 Oct 2007 : 20:35:22
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IMHO there is a lot of great material but, even for the lack of details in 3e, I suggest
Volo's guide to the sword coast and Forgotten Realms Adventures for the cities
Empires of the Shining Sea and Lands of Intrigue (great boxed sets, some of the best ever) |
Edited by - dragonfriend on 18 Oct 2007 20:36:53 |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 24 Oct 2007 : 18:32:06
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| Now I am wishing that I had picked up Forgotten Realms Adventures when I saw it for 7.00 USD in my local used book store. I think that it and Cloak and Dagger will be the first two I grab. I have had burning questions about the Manshoon Wars since I bought the 3e FRCS. Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. |
Errant d20 Designer - My Blog (last updated January 06, 2016)
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass
"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane
* My character sheets (PFRPG, 3.5, and AE versions; not viewable in Internet Explorer)
* Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Reference Document (PFRPG OGL Rules)
* The Hypertext d20 SRD (3.5 OGL Rules)
* 3.5 D&D Archives
My game design work:
* Heroes of the Jade Oath (PFRPG, conversion; Rite Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 1: Cantrips & Orisons (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Compendium Arcanum Volume 2: 1st-Level Spells (PFRPG, designer; d20pfsrd.com Publishing)
* Martial Arts Guidebook (forthcoming) (PFRPG, designer; Rite Publishing)
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 11 Nov 2007 : 13:12:19
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Hmm, can you print out stuff you download? I know it's not the same as a book, but it might save you some money, if that's a concern.
Its not the same. But as Wooly advised me, its a good way to screen the item to see if you do like it. |
When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight. |
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Mazrim_Taim
Learned Scribe
341 Posts |
Posted - 16 Dec 2007 : 10:20:07
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| Let me reiterate, if you haven't gotten it already ... Cloak and Dagger. It's thick with lore and a real pager turner, if I do say so myself (having read it cover to cover). |
And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 16 Dec 2007 : 15:10:51
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| Code of the Harpers, Cloak&Dagger, the North Boxed set, Elves of Evermeet, and the 2e deity trilogy are very good. |
When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight. |
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Shilo99
Seeker
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Posted - 22 Jan 2008 : 12:35:33
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The 2e gods books are awesome. Faiths & Avatars is simply the best FRPG book ever written.
Volo's guide rock! Sure, there's filler (the crazy recipes!) but so much lore on such small places (and you can reuse much of it in multiple locations).
You get plety of use from the Forgotten Realms adventure, even now, because of the city descriptions (as I think another poster mentioned)...almost as good as the amazing city shots in the Old Grey Box, several orders of magnitude better than the tripe in most 2e books.
I liked the Harper book, although it was a little different to how I DM'd Harpers.
Adventures: Ruins of Waterdeep in heaps detailed (though you may as well get the 3.5e version: the latter is based heavily on the former, but shorter). Ruins of Myth Drannor has some great stuff, though I always placed the adventures them elsewhere. For adventrues the way would run them (I think) look for Halls of the High King & Haunted Halls of Eveingstar. Old school!
And finally, the original FR1 is the finest example of just how much usable information you could pack into 64 pages (its a shame 2e didn't follow its lead). Amazingly well done by Ed. |
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Which Older Realms Products to Buy
