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Posted - 10 Oct 2007 :  03:10:04  Show Profile  Visit MerrikCale's Homepage Send MerrikCale a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
This old boxed set runs about $40 or so. Is it worth it? Why/Why not?



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Well, you can check it out for yourself, for free, from the Wizards downloads page.

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Posted - 10 Oct 2007 :  03:19:37  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
$40 no, free yes, very much worth it
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Posted - 10 Oct 2007 :  03:50:37  Show Profile  Visit MerrikCale's Homepage Send MerrikCale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Well, you can check it out for yourself, for free, from the Wizards downloads page.



ahh. But I do much prefer the actual books. Is it any good?



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quote:
Originally posted by MerrikCale

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Well, you can check it out for yourself, for free, from the Wizards downloads page.



ahh. But I do much prefer the actual books. Is it any good?



It's been a while since I perused that tome... But downloading the file doesn't mean you can't buy the books, still. You can download it, look thru it at your leisure, and decide whether or not you think it's worth it.

I believe the set was $25, originally. I recall that I quite liked it... But I'm thinking you should be able to find it for cheaper than $40.

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That's a bit pricey, but it is one of the better box sets. If you are interested in the region its essential. Download it, have a quick read-through and decide.
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Take some time and check e-bay regularly. You will surely find it much cheaper then 40 Dollars!

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Posted - 10 Oct 2007 :  14:50:20  Show Profile  Visit Apex's Homepage Send Apex a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually, if you want a better and cheaper source of information for that region, just by The Savage Frontier (FR 5)
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Actually, if you want a better and cheaper source of information for that region, just by The Savage Frontier (FR 5)



I wouldn't say that a smaller, older edition sourcebook is better than a larger, more recent boxed set...

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Apex

Actually, if you want a better and cheaper source of information for that region, just by The Savage Frontier (FR 5)



I wouldn't say that a smaller, older edition sourcebook is better than a larger, more recent boxed set...



I have the savage frontier. Is there a big difference?



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The North is newer, updated, and contains more lore.

But again, you can just download the file for free and make your own decisions.

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The Savage Frontier has a charm of its own, but most of the information found there is also found in the North, with a great many aditi9ons.. When talking about the Region one should never overlook Waterdeep and the North though, which gives the first glimpse of the region.
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Funny, this reminds me of Daggerford (which is detailed in the boxed set) -- do you think that it is a bit funny that every building has only a single family or resident? It is detailed as a city, rather than a small town, with a very "sophisticated" (for a lack of better term) guild system (i.e. more guilds than in Cormyr, for example). All this in a town of 500 hundred people or so feels a bit too much to my taste.

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Obviously, get whatever you can for free. You'll make out like a bandit.

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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Obviously, get whatever you can for free. You'll make out like a bandit.



and ruin the economy?



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Not to mention being left in the dusty street, with strings playing and the whole town watching, as the sheriff walks away unharmed?
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quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

Not to mention being left in the dusty street, with strings playing and the whole town watching, as the sheriff walks away unharmed?



a-yup, pardner



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I own it...it worth more than 40$..it's a TSR product and it is very carefully designed!!it's a masterpiece for the lovers and players of AD&D like me!!!!!!!!!

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Posted - 21 Oct 2007 :  18:43:40  Show Profile  Visit MerrikCale's Homepage Send MerrikCale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BARDOBARBAROS

I own it...it worth more than 40$..it's a TSR product and it is very carefully designed!!it's a masterpiece for the lovers and players of AD&D like me!!!!!!!!!



wonderful. I hear ebay calling



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quote:
Originally posted by BARDOBARBAROS

I own it...it worth more than 40$..it's a TSR product and it is very carefully designed!!it's a masterpiece for the lovers and players of AD&D like me!!!!!!!!!



I have to agree with Bard here. Of all the boxed sets I consider this one a must have. I also hate reading at length sitting at my PC, so I understand the want for a hard copy. I say buy it, $40.00 is not that far off for what I've seen it go for on a regular basis on Ebay.
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Is the box set titled "The Old North" or "The North: Guide to the Savage Frontier." I was not able to find a box set called "The Old North." If it is "The North: Guide to the Savage Frontier," you may find it cheaper here.

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quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

Is the box set titled "The Old North" or "The North: Guide to the Savage Frontier." I was not able to find a box set called "The Old North." If it is "The North: Guide to the Savage Frontier," you may find it cheaper here.



The boxed set is usually simply called The North, but "Guide to the Savage Frontier" does appear on the cover. You can view it here, if you don't want to download the file: http://home.flash.net/~brenfrow/fr/north.htm

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Thanks Wooly!

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It's an excellent resource on the Sword Coast North. On the other hand, if it was published today it would be derided for reprinting material from FR5 and VGN verbatim with relatively little, though mainly good, new material.
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quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

It's an excellent resource on the Sword Coast North. On the other hand, if it was published today it would be derided for reprinting material from FR5 and VGN verbatim with relatively little, though mainly good, new material.



Sorry can't resist, Faraer forgot to also mentioned that it would have a few more prestige classes, skills, and feats as well.

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quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

It's an excellent resource on the Sword Coast North. On the other hand, if it was published today it would be derided for reprinting material from FR5 and VGN verbatim with relatively little, though mainly good, new material.



so if I have Volo's Guide to the North and the Savage Frontier, there isn't much new?



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No opinion of the boxed set is as important as your own. And you've got the chance to, for free, see exactly what is in the box, and decide for yourself whether or not you want it. I don't understand why you wouldn't take advantage of that. It's like refusing to watch the trailer for a movie, and basing the decision on whether or not to see it entirely on reviews...

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quote:
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And you've got the chance to, for free, see exactly what is in the box, and decide for yourself whether or not you want it.


Thats a good idea and one I took advantage of. Thank you very much



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