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riot the outsider
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Posted - 08 Oct 2007 :  19:24:30  Show Profile Send riot the outsider a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
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Posted - 08 Oct 2007 :  19:37:59  Show Profile  Visit Snotlord's Homepage Send Snotlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Can't pick one really.

Novel: "City of Ravens" by Rich Baker, "Swords of Eveningstar" by Ed or "Azure Bonds" by Grubb/Novak.
Not quite sure about that last one. That was 15 (?) years ago.

Game supplement: 3e FRCS. Forgotten Realms Adventures or the Grey Box comes close. If picking the campaigns setting is cheating, I'd go for the 3e Lords of Darkness.

Edit: Hmmm forgot about Lands of Intrigue. It's the best FR supplement of all time. I really need to get my game back to Amn.
The first product I bought was the Grey Box, but the Baldur's Gate games got me into the setting.

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J D Dunsany
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Posted - 08 Oct 2007 :  20:39:15  Show Profile  Visit J D Dunsany's Homepage Send J D Dunsany a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Best one I've read so far...

Hmmm... look, it might seem like a simple question but it really isn't.

Today - in my head - it's 'Cormyr: A Novel' - a masterly bit of nation-building - fantasy history at its very best (and the main plot's pretty good too).

I'm deliberately only putting up one name here (riot asked for the 'best', after all), but I reserve the right to change my mind tomorrow. (Or in the next thirty minutes for that matter...)

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Wooly Rupert
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I think my fave Realms novel would be either The Wyvern's Spur or Finder's Bane. Elfshadow is a contender for that spot, too.

The fave game supplement is, without a doubt, Cloak & Dagger.

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Brynweir
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Posted - 08 Oct 2007 :  21:20:33  Show Profile Send Brynweir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm kind of partial to Spellfire, but I also liked seeing Elminster in Hell.

Anyone who likes to read something that's really dark and gritty and completely awesome ought to read The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks. You can check out a little taste at www.BrentWeeks.com I should probably warn you, though, that it is definitely not PG-13 :-D

He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness.

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Valdar Oakensong
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Posted - 08 Oct 2007 :  21:46:41  Show Profile Send Valdar Oakensong a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gah, no idea where to start picking 1 book. If the Sembia 7 were put in 1 omnibus then that would prolly win atm. I love that series.

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riot the outsider
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Posted - 08 Oct 2007 :  21:56:45  Show Profile Send riot the outsider a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well it doesn't have to be just one, it can be many if you choose to have more than one favorite thats fine.
Sorry if I forced anyone into a corner( which isn't bad, just really makes you think of all you've read rigth?)I think this will turn out to be a forum.

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The Sage
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 :  01:15:16  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's simply too difficult for me to select one FR novel that I would consider "the best."

As it is, Swords of Eveningstar, The City of Splendors, Silverfall, Elminster's Daughter, Cormyr: A Novel, Blackstaff, Evermeet, and Elfshadow [or even Elfsong]... could all, very easily, be a contender for that particular position.

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DragonReader
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 :  01:29:20  Show Profile  Visit DragonReader's Homepage Send DragonReader a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Any by Paul S. Kemp!!!
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scererar
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 :  03:12:49  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like most of them. I would have to go with authors, not favorite novel. However, in the spirit of the thread, I choose Spellfire. That novel encompasses what the realms are to me.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 :  03:16:57  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scererar

I like most of them. I would have to go with authors, not favorite novel. However, in the spirit of the thread, I choose Spellfire. That novel encompasses what the realms are to me.



Indeed, I loved that novel and found it to be a real page-turner. Of course, like most of the others I have a hard time picking just one.

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Apex
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 :  17:42:21  Show Profile  Visit Apex's Homepage Send Apex a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My all-time favorite was also the first one I read, Darkwalker on Moonshae by Douglas Niles. I thought the book captured a great adventure/setting tone and showed relatively "lesser" characters getting involved/coming of age.
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Jorkens
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 :  18:03:17  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nightparade, Spellfire, Moonshae trilogy, Crown of fire, Soldiers of Ice, Elminsters Daughter, Ogre pact, Azure bonds, Elfsong, Elfshadow.

In more or less that order.

As for game supplement, 1 st and 2ed. Campaign settings, Elminsters Ecology's, Dwarves Deep, Volos guide to all things magical and the Forgotten Realms Adventures book are some of my favorites.
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Xysma
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 :  21:02:35  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here's my Top-Ten List:

1. Midnight's Mask
2. Swords of Eveningstar
3. Daughter of the Drow
4. The Crystal Shard
5. Azure Bonds
6. Crypt of the Shadowking
7. Crucible: The Trial of Cyric the Mad
8. Depths of Madness
9. The Yellow Silk
10. Blackstaff

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Kajehase
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I've stated before that I hold Elaine to be a cut above any of the other writers who has graced us with a visit to the Realms (and I mean that as a compliment to Elaine, not as "All the other writers are bad at their job"), and while her first novel, Elfshadow, may not be her most accomplshed work, it's still my favourite due to the sheer joy I get from reading it.

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swifty
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Posted - 15 Oct 2007 :  22:57:38  Show Profile  Visit swifty's Homepage Send swifty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i loved spellfire and crown of fire but hand of fire was a right mess.one of the most repetitive books ive ever read.

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Drakul
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This might come as no surprise to y'all, but anything that has to do with the Drow, would be the best FR novel(s).

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Hawkins
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Posted - 15 Oct 2007 :  23:36:54  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Can't say much for my favorite book (there are so many and I have not read all of them recently), but my favorite authors (in no particular order) are Salvatore, Kemp, Denning, Greenwood, Cunningham, and Niles.

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Posted - 16 Oct 2007 :  10:30:31  Show Profile  Visit Bluenose's Homepage Send Bluenose a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My top five, based on how I feel atm:

5 - Elfshadow
4 - Venom's Taste
3 - Depths of Madness
2&1 - Azure Bonds and The Wyvern's Spur

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Lord of Bones
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Posted - 16 Oct 2007 :  11:08:12  Show Profile  Visit Lord of Bones's Homepage Send Lord of Bones a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So many lovely books. Right now I'd say Unclean. Before I read that stunning book I would say Black Wizards.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 16 Oct 2007 :  16:10:34  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I find it remarkable that my work has been mentioned a couple times, in the same lineups as Elaine's or Jeff's or Ed's or (the list goes on). What an honor!

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sirreus
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Posted - 16 Oct 2007 :  18:13:21  Show Profile  Visit sirreus's Homepage Send sirreus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
I find it remarkable that my work has been mentioned a couple times, in the same lineups as Elaine's or Jeff's or Ed's or (the list goes on). What an honor!


you seem a little down on yourself, sir. you are a great talent and we are all lucky to have you among us.

as for my favorites: magehound trilogy, starlight and shadows trilogy, bloodwalk, depths of madness, return of the archwizards trilogy, and the demonfey trilogy.

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Brakkart
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Posted - 17 Oct 2007 :  14:00:11  Show Profile  Visit Brakkart's Homepage Send Brakkart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Man you don't ask the easy questions do you?

Overall favourite... I'll go with City of Ravens.

Runners up though are:

The Black Bouquet
The Last Mythal trilogy
The Watercourse trilogy
War of the Spider Queen series
Anything with Erevis Cale in it!
Blackstaff
Star of Cursrah
The Year of Rogue Dragons trilogy

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The Legacy got me into the realms.
The FRCS for gaming.

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quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

The Legacy got me into the realms.



... Which makes me want to add to my previous answer. I was already interested in the Realms, and had purchased a bunch of the stuff. But it was Volo's Guide to Waterdeep that made the setting come alive for me, and thus truly got me into the Realms. Even though it's not my fave supplement, it is definitely in the top 10 (and the only reason it's a top 10 instead of a top 5 is because of the three 2E deity books).

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 17 Oct 2007 :  18:50:42  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sirreus

quote:
What an honor!

You seem a little down on yourself, sir. you are a great talent and we are all lucky to have you among us.

Thank you for your kind words, good sir!

Cheers

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Ranin
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I would have to say my fav is Black Wolf by David Gross or the Silent Blade.

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ajfurst
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Posted - 23 Jan 2008 :  02:10:17  Show Profile  Visit ajfurst's Homepage Send ajfurst a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My top four are:

1. Azure Bonds
2. The Crystal Shard
3. Pools of Radiance
4. Finders Bane

Diverging slightly, whilst I enjoy most FR books, my favourites have all been non-RSE and non-series (Fighters, Mages, etc.) Just ones where a good story was told, that wasn't constrained by what series it was in and the reader didn't need to know anything really about the Realms or was told of it beyond what the story required (yeah, that's a backhanded complaint that the reset is totally unnecessary for telling good stories that appeal to new readers )
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Broken Helm
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I'm just going to do novels, in descending order:

1. Swords of Eveningstar
2. Spellfire
3. Swords of Dragonfire
4. The Annotated Elminster (cheating, I know. Just Making of A Mage if I can't use collections)
5. Cormyr: A Novel
6. Death Of The Dragon
7. Homeland
8. Elfshadow
9. Elminster's Daughter
10. City of Splendors

Hmm. Looks like Ed wins, though I really wasn't paying attention to authors when I did that.

If I had to expand it:

11. Blackstaff
12. Dawn of Night
13. Unclean
14. Elfsong
15. Azure Bonds
16. Silverfall
17. Depths of Madness
18. Twilight Calling
19. Stormlight
20. Elminster In Hell
21. Crown of Fire
22. Daughter of the Drow
23. Venom's Taste
24. The Silent Blade
25. The Simbuls' Gift

Hmm. Ed wins again. That surprises me too, though I suppose it shouldn't.
Anyway, that's just my rankings. The tastes of others will differ. I have, I think, read every published Realms novel.
If we're including anthologies and collections, too, The Best of the Realms II (Ed), Realms of Valor, Realms of Mystery, and The Best of the Realms III (Elaine) would make that top 25 for me, in that order but scattered throughout the over-15 rankings, bumping the last four titles above off the list.
The most recent books by Rosemary Jones, Bruce Cordell, and Erik's Ghostwalker were going to be in the next 5.
Of my top ten, it's Elfshadow and Eds 1-2-3 ranked books that I re-read most. Great stuff.
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Mazrim_Taim
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I'm not as experienced as others when it comes to FR novels but most recently I read The City of Splendors and loved it. I don't know about you guys but the Ed and Elaine team is a winning one for me. And combined with Evermeet it makes me really surprised that EC doesn't write more for the Realms. Those two definitely have a spot in the "best FR book" category for me. I also really enjoyed Elfshadow.

Oh yeah and Blackstaff ranks high on my list as well.

So far as sourcebooks go it'd be, Cloak and Dagger, Lost Empires of Faerun, The Silver Marches, and Empires of The Shining Sea (who doesn't love the Shoon Dynasty?).

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