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Aravine
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 Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 14:32:08
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can adventurers have romantic involvments?
can they get married?
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Sian
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Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 15:34:42
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why shouldn't they be able to? ... thats how quite a few of the surviving adventurers retire ... by finding love and getting married  |
what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month |
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Aravine
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 15:38:56
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why shouldn't they be able to? ... thats how quite a few of the surviving adventurers retire ... by finding love and getting married
while they are adventuring. you see it is my opinon that romance gives another dimension to a campain. this person is someone that can be used to betray, or as a motivation
the strongest emotion we are capable of is love. now put someone in the way of the object of thier affections and put a sword in their hand and watch the opponents drop |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 17:08:48
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Originally posted by aravine
can adventurers have romantic involvments?
Yes. Why wouldn't they?
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Originally posted by aravine
can they get married?
Yes. Why wouldn't they? |
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Aravine
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 17:13:10
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by aravine
can adventurers have romantic involvments?
Yes. Why wouldn't they?
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Originally posted by aravine
can they get married?
Yes. Why wouldn't they?
well in the FRCS it says that marriages are for the common folk. i forgot the exact wording, but it was something to that effect |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
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Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 17:18:07
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Of course they can have romances. All sorts of relationships, from quickies to long monogamous relationships.
I cant remember that part of the campaign setting, but I think that is part of a statement that says that all types of relationships can be found in the Realms. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 18:58:31
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Originally posted by aravine
well in the FRCS it says that marriages are for the common folk. i forgot the exact wording, but it was something to that effect
I guess royalty and nobility can't get married, then... |
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Aravine
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Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 20:57:13
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by aravine
well in the FRCS it says that marriages are for the common folk. i forgot the exact wording, but it was something to that effect
I guess royalty and nobility can't get married, then...
tuche
no seriously, by common folk i think they met Non-adventurers |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 21:36:31
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Originally posted by aravine
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by aravine
well in the FRCS it says that marriages are for the common folk. i forgot the exact wording, but it was something to that effect
I guess royalty and nobility can't get married, then...
tuche
no seriously, by common folk i think they met Non-adventurers
What they mean is that it is more common for non-adventurers to wed. However, there is no blanket prohibition against marriage for any group within the Realms, and the very idea of one is preposterous. |
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Aravine
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 00:11:34
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| that's good to know |
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Brynweir
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 00:31:45
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If you think about the life of an adventurer, it's not the kind that leads to life long romance. You really never know when you're gonna die, and having that hanging over your head makes love hard. Also, the type of person who jumps at danger and excitement every chance they get is probably not the monogomous type.
That's, IMO, why many adventurers don't settle down 'til they're ready to retire and the adventurous spirit has been satisfied.
Other than preference, though, I see no reason they could not fall in love and get married. |
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Aewrik
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 03:59:12
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| What Brynweir said, and also, I would personally (as an adventurer) try to keep away from significant others, as I might gather a strong group of enemies during my adventures. Naturally, someone won't like everything I do. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 12:01:57
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Originally posted by Brynweir
If you think about the life of an adventurer, it's not the kind that leads to life long romance. You really never know when you're gonna die, and having that hanging over your head makes love hard. Also, the type of person who jumps at danger and excitement every chance they get is probably not the monogomous type.
That's, IMO, why many adventurers don't settle down 'til they're ready to retire and the adventurous spirit has been satisfied.
Other than preference, though, I see no reason they could not fall in love and get married.
Well the life on the move would be a larger factor than the danger in my opinion. There has been plenty of occupations throughout history (soldiers, fishermen, miners) that could be seen as having an extremely high death-risk, that didn't keep the same people from marrying. If an adventurer kept to one limited area such as Waterdeep or a couple of the Dales there is little reason for him/her to not enter a long term relationship.
But there is of course, as you said, the personality thing. Most "adventurers" will be a little on the restless side and often a little bit mad. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 15:43:54
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| There's also no reason why adventurers can't marry other adventurers. The Night Parade novel had a married couple that were adventurers... |
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sirreus
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 16:58:19
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Blackstaff and (which sister?) i think romance is great for story lines: liriel baenre and fyodor, danilo and ms. moonblade, elminster and who knows all + the simbul, midnight and kelemvor, lathander and chaunte. all these relationships made for emotional stories, and these tend to stick with me more than other novels without those interactions.
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Aravine
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 17:00:14
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| What about adventuring PC's (is there any other kind?lol) |
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sirreus
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 17:05:53
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I also like to delve into these relationships in my pc's histories. my new pc's mother and father's relationship was at the least turmultuous. my father had to steal me from my tiefling mother, to insure my survival. he moved with me to the northdark, where he found love in the arms of a minotaur(his own race). when my parents were slain and i sold into slavery, i saved a little girl, who reminded me of my lost little sister. later on my pc falls in love with a half elf companion. these relationships give credence to our pc's personality and moral compass. |
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Aravine
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 17:08:07
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Originally posted by sirreus
I also like to delve into these relationships in my pc's histories. my new pc's mother and father's relationship was at the least turmultuous. my father had to steal me from my tiefling mother, to insure my survival. he moved with me to the northdark, where he found love in the arms of a minotaur(his own race). when my parents were slain and i sold into slavery, i saved a little girl, who reminded me of my lost little sister. later on my pc falls in love with a half elf companion. these relationships give credence to our pc's personality and moral compass.
That would make your character what species? |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 17:52:01
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Originally posted by aravine
What about adventuring PC's (is there any other kind?lol)
There has been several relationships in my campaigns, both long and short; relationships with npc's and PC's. Offsprings from these has also been seen on several locations. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 18:25:30
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Originally posted by aravine
What about adventuring PC's (is there any other kind?lol)
Again, why wouldn't there be? |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 20:31:25
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Originally posted by aravine
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Originally posted by sirreus
I also like to delve into these relationships in my pc's histories. my new pc's mother and father's relationship was at the least turmultuous. my father had to steal me from my tiefling mother, to insure my survival. he moved with me to the northdark, where he found love in the arms of a minotaur(his own race). when my parents were slain and i sold into slavery, i saved a little girl, who reminded me of my lost little sister. later on my pc falls in love with a half elf companion. these relationships give credence to our pc's personality and moral compass.
That would make your character what species?
He is half minotaur - half tiefling. |
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 20:34:42
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We just had an NPC hurl himself to his death off of a tower on Telflamm's gatehouse because a PC wouldn't consent to marry him. He had bought her sticky rice cake, flowers, a Tuigan serving woman, kissed her passionately danced with her (she's a Sharran priestess), and defended her in battle. Her rejection was too much for him.
She did not get x.p. for him, by the way.
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Xysma
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 20:34:46
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What about adventuring PC's (is there any other kind?lol)
One of my favorite characters, Crow Brayth (7Ftr/10Rog/1Dread Pirate) is married to a halfling bard from Chessenta. Sometimes she accompanies him on his adventures, other times she keeps the home fires burning. There's nothing to say an adventurer can't maintain a marriage or serious committment, but the demands of being gone for long periods of time certainly take their toll. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 21:14:58
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There's nothing to say an adventurer can't maintain a marriage or serious committment, but the demands of being gone for long periods of time certainly take their toll.
Another point against romance with an adventurer: they may be killed in distant lands, with the lover never knowing what happened. Even worse, after being killed, the adventurer could pop back up as some flavor of undead, and then come home... Another potential problem is that some adventurers attract powerful enemies, and for some of those bad guys, a defenseless lover is a perfect target. |
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Caedwyr
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 22:25:00
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What about adventuring PC's (is there any other kind?lol)
Only if both parties involved take the feat and if you roll high enough on the reaction table (amongst party members). For an NPC/PC romance there are a lot more feats involved and a lot more dice rolling. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 06 Oct 2007 : 04:01:49
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
There's also no reason why adventurers can't marry other adventurers.
That's how it works in a LOT of books, and computer RPGs. Love amongst adventuring comrades is pretty much a staple of the fantasy genre...and other genres, too. |
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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 06 Oct 2007 : 19:48:44
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Originally posted by Xysma
There's nothing to say an adventurer can't maintain a marriage or serious committment, but the demands of being gone for long periods of time certainly take their toll.
Another point against romance with an adventurer: they may be killed in distant lands, with the lover never knowing what happened. Even worse, after being killed, the adventurer could pop back up as some flavor of undead, and then come home... Another potential problem is that some adventurers attract powerful enemies, and for some of those bad guys, a defenseless lover is a perfect target.
Love (or intense lust) between two adventurers can end in tragedy if one is killed and the other survives. We had a PC fall in lust with an NPC after a torrid encounter (with a couple or three other people) in the House of Purple Silks in Waterdeep. After we role-played the First Battle of the Golden Way, the PC's player asked after the NPC's safety. As Fate would have it, the NPC was randomly killed by Tuigan archery, one of the very few to be killed outright! 
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Aravine
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Posted - 10 Oct 2007 : 15:32:03
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| okay lets turn this in a slightly different direction. have there ever been romances in any campains you were involved with? what happened? |
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Kuje
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Posted - 10 Oct 2007 : 17:16:34
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Hmm, I think I've only rarely had a game that didn't involve some PC/NPC romance, lust, love, sex.
A old 2e game on of the moon elves married a moon elf and they have a handful of children that expanded Sehanine's faith. This game also had a few other PC's who had male or female NPC partners.
My current email game, which is on going, for 2 or 3 years now, has a lot of lust since the PC was tiefling descended from a succubus and as the game progressed, since it's a single player game, he's turned into a fiendish deity of lust and he has his main lover who is a fiendish goddess of pain and torture. Plus there's other tanar'ri he's created that are related to lust and or fetishes. It's been a interesting game to say the least.
I know there were other games where the PC's were interested in NPC's but I can't recall all the details. My last group email game, which was started with players here on Keep, had a cleric of Sharess who enjoyed sharing different sensations with NPC's, so some nights she was elsewhere doing Sharess's dogma but that didn't always include lust and or sex or romance. However, as a group we all decided to keep it to fade to black.
I think, for me, that is the most important aspect. If you are going to add romance, lust, sex, etc, to your games, discuss it with your players and if they are uncomfortable then scrap the idea or make it so that the details aren't explained and so basically use a fade to black method so the events happen off stage. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 10 Oct 2007 : 17:46:19
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I had a DM once who insisted on running a romantic encounter between my character and the NPC that was my character's girlfriend. I tried to avoid it, but my DM insisted... Afterward, I told him I wasn't doing that again. I had three reasons for not liking it: 1) It wasn't my character's idea, 2) Even if a house is empty, I didn't see my character as the type to break in and then stop for sex with his girlfriend, and 3) I knew that the absolutely pointless sexual encounter was a reflection of my DM's state of sexual frustration. Neither one of us had girlfriends then, but I didn't want to deal with that by roleplaying a sexual encounter.
In another campaign with another DM, my character wound up flat broke. The DM told me not to worry about it... and then had my character sleep with a female character (played by the girl who was then dating the first DM; she's now his wife) just to be able to stay in an inn (she covered his room and board in exchange for sex). I was very unhappy with that, because I did not envision that character as someone who would do that. I think that DM was also a single guy...
If I was gaming now, I *might* be inclined to roleplay a sexual encounter... But only if it was relevant, in-character, and not unwelcome to my character. Even with that, I'd only want to roleplay the seduction, and let the actual intercourse be off-screen. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 11 Oct 2007 : 01:28:17
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In another campaign with another DM, my character wound up flat broke. The DM told me not to worry about it... and then had my character sleep with a female character (played by the girl who was then dating the first DM; she's now his wife) just to be able to stay in an inn (she covered his room and board in exchange for sex).
Ick, it seems almost like that DM pushed you (or more specifically, your character) into it. |
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