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Drizztsmanchild
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 20 May 2009 : 18:59:32
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| Ok, Since we are are discussing...ahem odd things. On another post there is a discussion on El's undergarments. For arguements sake and for lore what exactly are the magical properties of said undergarments? Thank you :) |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2009 : 19:39:54
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 20 May 2009 : 19:44:33
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Originally posted by Drizztsmanchild
Ok, Since we are are discussing...ahem odd things. On another post there is a discussion on El's undergarments. For arguements sake and for lore what exactly are the magical properties of said undergarments? Thank you :)
Well, the powers of the undergarments have never been detailed. But the enchantments on those undergarments are the reason he enjoys so much female attention! Do the math. 
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 20 May 2009 : 21:43:30
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Drizztsmanchild
Ok, Since we are are discussing...ahem odd things. On another post there is a discussion on El's undergarments. For arguements sake and for lore what exactly are the magical properties of said undergarments? Thank you :)
Well, the powers of the undergarments have never been detailed. But the enchantments on those undergarments are the reason he enjoys so much female attention! Do the math.
Not sure if it's the undergarments that causes the female attention or the +3 sock of illusion. |
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
804 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2009 : 23:51:39
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Heh. Here we go again . . .
Just to be a LITTLE serious for a moment: I recall a long-ago GenCon seminar in which Ed mentioned that many of the Knights, regardless of gender, wore panties of feather falling that they'd obtained from somewhere while adventuring. Yes, to protect them from falls down pit traps, dungeon and mine shafts, off rooftops in cities, and off cliffs.
(Here comes Florin, fire in his eye and sword gleaming as the corded muscles of his arms ripple . . . resplendent in a crotchless wisp of high-thigh-cut pink silk . . .)
Ahem.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 20 May 2009 : 23:56:08
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You are remembering correctly, Blueblade.
And, scribes, BB isn't far off the mark indeed in his invented Florin description. No, indeed.
Although at least one of the male Knights had a garter belt of feather falling (no, he didn't have to wear garters with it, to make it function; it and the panties worked automatically, unless the wearer murmured a word to "turn them off" because they WANTED to plummet fast.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31716 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2009 : 00:32:30
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Originally posted by Blueblade
(Here comes Florin, fire in his eye and sword gleaming as the corded muscles of his arms ripple . . . resplendent in a crotchless wisp of high-thigh-cut pink silk . . .)
I've got to use this in my campaign. Since Florin is acting as an NPC at the moment, I think it would be rather amusing for the party to encounter him in such a state. And given the recent trials they've each faced, it ought to give them something of a laugh.
At Florin's expense, but...
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Solomon
Acolyte
New Zealand
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Posted - 21 May 2009 : 11:05:45
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Thanks again to both Ed and the Hooded One for giving us this delightful privilege.
When Ed has a moment, could you please remind him of a character named Harmel Artru he referenced back in the Jan-March 2006 era of 'So Saith Ed'? He sounds like a fascinating character and as he was cited by Ed as then being the 'best' (according to his terms and conditions) swordsman in the Realms, I'd love to hear more details about him, just as he did with Sraece Telthorn.
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Baleful Avatar
Learned Scribe
Canada
161 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2009 : 19:43:50
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Dear Ed and THO,
I have just surfaced after participating in a Realms campaign in which a DM did a "foreshock" of the Spellplague: no change in game rules or time jump, but a wave of blue fire in the skies, then all magic went wild (so became dangerous to the wielder as well as potential targets of any spellcaster), and those who tried to study for spells or experiment with magic started to rave and then fell unconscious, coming to days later without the replacement spells they'd been trying to get.
At the same time, Westgate (where the PCs happened to be) got shrouded in clinging, never-going-away mist and dark tentacled things started emerging from the sewers and harbor . . . and things went very Cthulhu.
It was scary (taking away reliable magic turns things very "survivalist") and exciting and memorable, all at the same time. The party eventually left Westgate, where it seems the monsters are taking over, using doppelgangers (who serve the tentacled ones!) to impersonate/replace city officials, and magic is starting to return to normal.
The thing is: we questioned our DM pretty firmly, outside of play, after this all got going, and he swears he got the idea from talking to Ed at a GenCon YEARS ago, as "a way to save a runaway campaign, or just one you want to turn in a very different direction."
Is this true? If so, did others who talked to Ed in that room at GenCon (our DM says there were about twenty people there, some of them TSR designers, filling in after a seminar went bust because the guests of honor failed to show up) remember this and use it, years later, as the Spellplague?
I don't think for one minute, from the things that have been posted here and elsewhere or what Ed and others (Rich Baker, etc.) have said at the last two GenCons, that the Spellplague as presented in print was Ed's idea, or written by Ed. I'm just curious as to whether someone took his old Godswar idea (DRAGON issue 54) and what was said at the older Milwaukee GenCon that i'm talking about, and spun them into the Spellplague of 2008.
Ed? THO? NDA silences?
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Malcolm
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 21 May 2009 : 19:45:07
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Hey, heavy stuff there. Can't we just talk about Elminster's undergarments, first?
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2009 : 03:37:48
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Heh. Of COURSE we can. His collection of trophies, or those he wears himself?
And, Baleful Avatar, from where I'm sitting Ed's NDA silence looks large, heavy, healthy, and rather grim. It's gray and looming and blocking the light.
And it's very, very . . . silent.
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Dark Wizard
Senior Scribe
USA
830 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2009 : 04:20:12
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Hi again, all.
Dark Wizard, your Chondath/Chessenta question has gone off to Ed; I don't recall anything useful in trying to answer it in the lore-notes he's given me over the years, or in the notes I made during play. So it'll have to wait for his return, which will hopefully be by end of next week.
Yes, Ed tries to envisage the Realms as a real place, and work out details and lore explanations that make it seem more real AND create new roleplaying opportunities. I think he's become pretty good at it over the last forty-some years.
As for Embersea, I know very little about it, because Ed (following professional protocol) has said very little. I once overheard him mention something about "lots of small islands to adventure on, clustered around large ones," that MIGHT have been Embersea, or might not. That was years back, before he offered the setting to Studio 2, which is when his silence descended. I suspect Embersea was one of the many projects affected when Ed's father died and Ed missed a crop of deadlines, with everything snowballing and getting delayed. However, it's NOT a dead setting, by any means.
love,
THO
Thank you for your swift reply once again Lady THO. I'm glad to hear Ed is doing well. The potential hint you provided for Embersea only makes me more curious. It sounds like a grander more focused take on Ed's own original Anchorome concept. If that is indeed the case, I'm all for it, though I'm sure we would all find many things of interesting in any of Ed's settings, whatever they may be.
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crazedventurers
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 May 2009 : 09:45:57
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Originally posted by Dark Wizard
The potential hint you provided for Embersea only makes me more curious. It sounds like a grander more focused take on Ed's own original Anchorome concept.
Now wouldn't that be a fine and dandy thing. I had exactly the same thought myself
I would love to see this product, it is a definite buy for me.
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So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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gomez
Learned Scribe
Netherlands
254 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2009 : 10:10:18
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Heh. Of COURSE we can. His collection of trophies, or those he wears himself?
Why choose when we can have anecdotes of both?
And your own trophies, of course, while we are at it...
Gomez,
wondering what comments he would get if he added 'garter of feather falling' to his treasure bundles..
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2009 : 16:44:50
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To digress for a moment... in the 70's (around here) it became somewhat 'popular' for young men (late teens) to hang a girl's panties from his rear-view mirror in his car, as a trophy of-sorts from certain 'conquests' he has made in the vehicle.
Some guys had several pairs (and only one per girl was allowed), so the whole thing became a matter of 'bragging rights'... which only lasted a couple of years because it became obvious some guys were just buying the underwear or stealing their sister's <eeew>.
Anyway, enough about growing-up on Long Isalnd... 
This current converstaion now has me picturing a very special, very secret room in El's tower with thousands of rear-view mirrors mounted to the walls.
With trophies... of course...
Some perhaps rather....... bizarre.... |
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 22 May 2009 : 16:46:12
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I was curious how the dwarves of Clan Battlehammer might actually say the name of their home, "Mithral Hall", in Dwarvish. My guess is HIMral ULtok:
"mithral: himral ('HIMM-rall')" (<"Questions for Ed Greenwood (2005)">, THO's post on 16-APR-2005)
"ultok: meeting-place, coming together, rendezvous" (Dwarves Deep, p.12) |
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 22 May 2009 : 16:49:47
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Originally posted by Markustay
This current converstaion now has me picturing a very special, very secret room in El's tower with thousands of rear-view mirrors mounted to the walls.
With trophies... of course...
Some perhaps rather....... bizarre....
Upcoming products for next month include:
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2009 : 21:32:04
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Hello again, fellow scribes!
Markustay, re. this: "This current conversation now has me picturing a very special, very secret room in El's tower with thousands of rear-view mirrors mounted to the walls.
With trophies... of course...
Some perhaps rather....... bizarre...."
Markustay, dahling, you have NO idea. I could tell you things about the striking nude female we Knights once found self-bound to the bedroom wall of El's Tower, but if I did, The Simbul would kill me, so I won't. 
Oops. 
Ahem.
BEAST, Mithral Hall would actually be "HIMral ULdoum"
"Uldoum" means "favored dwarven settlement" (meaning favored by the speaker, which is a formal way of saying "I am of that settlement" . . . and "ul" in ultok, uldoum, uldrar and ulglath means "we people" or the dwarves)
"Uldrar" means "way of the dwarves," or literally, a route through the Underdark that is used, marked, and improved by the dwarves [steps cut into stone, bridges, some tunneling, etc.].
"Ulglath" means "dwarf-made" or "dwarven-work" or even "of the style of the dwarves" (so a dwarf could pick up a hammer he knows to have been made by a gnome, and say as a compliment: "Serth. Uglath!" meaning: 'I approve. Like dwarf-work!')
This all comes from Ed's notes, which were truncated sadly for DWARVES DEEP, and have been added to in play, since.
Ed tells me a dwarf who'd never heard of Mithral Hall (the known place, that is, as a named dwarven settlement) might say "himral ultok" to describe a hypothetical large cavern where Underdark dwellers already meet or gather to trade in mithral, or that was discovered to be full of mithral [a lost armory or ready-refined metals cache or something of the sort, not a lode or vein of the raw makings of mithral].
There. More potted dwarf-lore.
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Zandilar
Learned Scribe
Australia
313 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2009 : 00:50:40
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Heya,
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Hello again, fellow scribes!
Markustay, re. this: "This current conversation now has me picturing a very special, very secret room in El's tower with thousands of rear-view mirrors mounted to the walls.
With trophies... of course...
Some perhaps rather....... bizarre...."
Hmm... Well that would definitely justify some people's view of Elminster...
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Markustay, dahling, you have NO idea. I could tell you things about the striking nude female we Knights once found self-bound to the bedroom wall of El's Tower, but if I did, The Simbul would kill me, so I won't.
If it was a Nymph, that might be an effective trap. Especially if your DM rules that her ability to strike people blind is not under her control, and if it works on any sentient being regardless of gender... (One of my DMs used to LOVE using this trap on our hapless characters - very cruel, if you ask me! Poor Nymph! Poor PCs - we'd come around a corner, and WHAM! Blinded by beauty! So of course we'd then derail the whole plot trying to rescue the Nymph. Serves the DM right!) |
Zandilar
~amor vincit omnia~
~audaces fortuna iuvat~
As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
804 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2009 : 03:01:01
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Heh. Reading THO's wording, methinks the selfbound female was The Simbul herself, awaiting old Elminster's return from somewhere. I hope he was feeling energetic when he padded wearily towards his bed . . .
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 23 May 2009 : 04:42:06
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| He's always prepared with his +5 Viagra or a handy Ironwood spell. |
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 23 May 2009 : 06:57:00
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THO: I switched job in March and now take the train to work instead of driving... so I have resumed my reading of FR novels. Please tell Ed that Waterdeep: City of Splendors is perhaps the best FR novel I've ever read to date. It's simply amazing: I am utterly staggered at how the plot, well into a 500+ pages novel, NEVER stops twisting and turning. Every chapter I read brings a "wow, I did not expect that" surprise. I really like how famous NPCs were used as liberally as the new noble and blue collar younglings... (in the same frames/scenes, we really get a feeling at how mighty or famous they are vs. the regular folk) Love the Gemcloaks. In the first 200 pages or so... did not care about the Amalgation, but they grow on you (no pun intended! :P) and you soon see yourself wishing Mrelder would kick his crazy old man's arse with a good old spell duel! (maybe it has yet to happen... I'm almost at the end, so don't tell! :D )
Kudos to Elaine as well! |
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Indoril
Acolyte
Canada
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Posted - 23 May 2009 : 17:13:42
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I've got a question I've been wondering for a while, and scouring the net as yielded little for answers:
Aside from the basic languages of common, elven, dwarven, blah-blah-blah for the many, many races, is there anything similar to French, German, etc. used amongst humans in certain regions? I imagine different parts of the realms have different languages, like the humans in Chult might have their own native language for example. (Though I can't say I've looked to see if that's actually fact, I assume it is so, though)
But is there any kingdom or land where the people speak other languages resembling to other non-English real world languages? |
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 23 May 2009 : 19:16:46
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See Eric Boyd's excellent work in RACES OF FAERUN (3e sourcebook) for various regional human languages . . . but Ed and THO (who both dabble linguistically) will no doubt repeat the oft-stated truism that no Realmsian languages are modelled on, or intended to resemble, ANY real-world languages. Apart from being made up of sounds pronounceable by human mouths and vocal cords, of course.
This is something I've heard said over and over by Ed and by various TSR designers at past GenCons, when the Realms seminars flew thick and fast, and sometimes stretched to FOUR HOURS.
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Malcolm
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 23 May 2009 : 19:24:59
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Yeah, I can still see Ed up on stage, sweating in that heavy Elminster costume, ad-libbing both jokes and heavy-duty Realmslore for hours at a stretch, in response to audience questions. I knew he was a genius when I first read the Old Gray Box, but I WATCHED him be a genius, for three years running in Milwaukee . . . and he never repeated a joke!
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Baleful Avatar
Learned Scribe
Canada
161 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2009 : 19:44:16
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Agghh! No more nostalgia Realms tales! I'm starting to sniffle! You're taking me back to the time when the Realms was unfolding bright and new, and fool that I was, I thought TSR would do as they had been doing for Dragonlance, and did for the Known World: keep on selling us regional sourcebooks and boxed sets until the globe (both sides, and even the hollow inside!!) had been covered.
Instead, they went back to the Waterdeep well again and again, and started separate product lines for Al-Qadim and Maztica and then got distracted into Spelljammer and Planescape, and somehow ran out of steam on the Realms coverage.
When Ed could have been kept busy writing annual Volo's Guides for the last TWO DECADES, and given us rich depth to the entire darned thing.
I think Wizards should bring Volo back, only a befuddled-by-magic Volo: he's wandering in the Realms, not quite knowing where he is, but still bitching about bad meals and bug-infested beds and giving us recipes and gossip and the good local landmarks for every place he does stumble across.
And you can use the published results in the Realms (where they JUST HAPPEN to perfectly match the Realms we first saw in the Old Gray Box), the Abeir part (so if you're using the "new" Realms, it'll work for right now), Eberron, or wherever (Golarion, your own homebrew...) because Volo's down on the "this inn and that tavern" level.
I can't for the life of me figure out why Wizards doesn't hire Ed to just churn out Volo's Guides. The argument they gave, back at those old GenCons, was "the hobby retailers don't like the format." But since they're now selling PDFs and making some stuff web-only, I think they just hurled their own argument out the nearest window... |
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Jakk
Great Reader
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Posted - 23 May 2009 : 20:13:11
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Originally posted by Knight of the Gate
To begin, I (as I am sure, are many others) am delighted to hear that the Man is on the mend. And, also: You know, I would GLADLY send Ed the amount I used to spend on sourcebooks for about a page a week of whatever he felt like writing. As I see it, that's about $200 a year... If we could get five hundred of us...
I'm in too... and for me in 2E and 3E days, that's about $600-800 a year that I've been saving since the advent of 4E. Yes, I have just about everything.
All I really want is anything that's been buried under somnolent NDA's for a decade or more. No good lore should have to suffocate to death in that manner. 
Looking forward to whatever Ed will be producing for Wizbro's web publishing; will it be for D&Di or "open content" on the site? Or is that NDA'd at this time too?  |
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gomez
Learned Scribe
Netherlands
254 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2009 : 21:24:27
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Originally posted by Baleful Avatar
I can't for the life of me figure out why Wizards doesn't hire Ed to just churn out Volo's Guides.
Wizards has some reserves to follow the publishing model of the Volo's guides. The realms are a little darker these days, a little harder to get around, and they don't really want 'a single voice connecting disparate areas'.
Of course, in a year or five, they may change their minds, but I wouldn't count on Volo guides at the moment. thena gain, I don't know what Ed is going to write for Dragon...
Lady, can we post suggestions? :D
Btw, I hope Ed is all well - somehow I missed a few posts a few pages back. Give him a hug from me (he'll probably enjoys it much more if you give it ;) ).
Gomez
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 23 May 2009 : 21:57:31
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Originally posted by Jakk
Looking forward to whatever Ed will be producing for Wizbro's web publishing; will it be for D&Di or "open content" on the site? Or is that NDA'd at this time too?
I believe it's already been stated that it's going to be DDI. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31716 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2009 : 01:08:08
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Originally posted by gomez
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Originally posted by Baleful Avatar
I can't for the life of me figure out why Wizards doesn't hire Ed to just churn out Volo's Guides.
Wizards has some reserves to follow the publishing model of the Volo's guides. The realms are a little darker these days, a little harder to get around, and they don't really want 'a single voice connecting disparate areas'.
Of course, in a year or five, they may change their minds, but I wouldn't count on Volo guides at the moment. thena gain, I don't know what Ed is going to write for Dragon...
Did any of you read the [brief] Volo's Guides by Eric and Ed published individually in the last few printed issues of DRAGON Magazine? |
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