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Quasymor
Acolyte
France
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 Posted - 20 May 2024 : 21:02:54
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Soo I was looking at the wiki fandom of Fr and I realized that there isn't much about efreeties, like, aside from the fact that they live mostly in the sun (wtf ?) ain't they related to Calimshan or Amn since they're from Islamic culture as those lands are the closest culturally and geographically based on the Maghreb, just like djinns ?
kinda want to know more, and when they don't live on the elemental fire plane or sun, where do they prefer to go ? Do they have some contact with humans or Toril creatures ? Do they kinda act like cavern monsters terrifying people, demanding sacrifice and hiding treasures, or are they smarter than that ?
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
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Posted - 21 May 2024 : 15:04:20
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| Efreeti are extremely intelligent. Genies of all sorts have the most ties to the area known as Zakhara / Al-Qadim campaign setting (which is on Toril... south-central part of the continent. But they LIVE on other planes typically, so they aren't common here. Recommend that if you're interested to look into some of the old 2nd edition Al-Qadim lore. Calimshan does also have ties to Efreeti. So does Thay, especially in that they had a war (the Salamander War) in which they summoned efreeti and salamanders to invade their rivals and it went awry. They also have involvement with Mulhorand and the cities in the Plains of Purple Dust via the old Desert of Desolation modules. |
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Quasymor
Acolyte
France
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Posted - 21 May 2024 : 19:28:04
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Originally posted by sleyvas
Efreeti are extremely intelligent. Genies of all sorts have the most ties to the area known as Zakhara / Al-Qadim campaign setting (which is on Toril... south-central part of the continent. But they LIVE on other planes typically, so they aren't common here. Recommend that if you're interested to look into some of the old 2nd edition Al-Qadim lore. Calimshan does also have ties to Efreeti. So does Thay, especially in that they had a war (the Salamander War) in which they summoned efreeti and salamanders to invade their rivals and it went awry. They also have involvement with Mulhorand and the cities in the Plains of Purple Dust via the old Desert of Desolation modules.
thank you SO much for the information, what annoys me really is that there are a lot of new books getting published in 5th edition, but they can't even re-adapt older edition, and instead republish the most basic flat standard stuff and if anyone want to dig a bit deeper, it becomes a hunt for the lost piece. I might be a newbie, but this really ticks me off. Any sites aside from wiki fandom and the older edition books (that I have a hard time to find) that could be of any use ?
I really appreciate the help ! |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 23 May 2024 : 19:57:09
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Originally posted by Quasymor
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Originally posted by sleyvas
Efreeti are extremely intelligent. Genies of all sorts have the most ties to the area known as Zakhara / Al-Qadim campaign setting (which is on Toril... south-central part of the continent. But they LIVE on other planes typically, so they aren't common here. Recommend that if you're interested to look into some of the old 2nd edition Al-Qadim lore. Calimshan does also have ties to Efreeti. So does Thay, especially in that they had a war (the Salamander War) in which they summoned efreeti and salamanders to invade their rivals and it went awry. They also have involvement with Mulhorand and the cities in the Plains of Purple Dust via the old Desert of Desolation modules.
thank you SO much for the information, what annoys me really is that there are a lot of new books getting published in 5th edition, but they can't even re-adapt older edition, and instead republish the most basic flat standard stuff and if anyone want to dig a bit deeper, it becomes a hunt for the lost piece. I might be a newbie, but this really ticks me off. Any sites aside from wiki fandom and the older edition books (that I have a hard time to find) that could be of any use ?
I really appreciate the help !
NP, regarding re-adapting older edition stuff... you gotta remember that they need to make money. I know I personally wouldn't pay a dime towards a 5e recreation of an earlier module. That's where stuff like DM's Guild comes into play, and you'll find a lot of stuff redone there for 5e.
You can also find PDFs of older books on DM's Guild as well. They also aren't huge in price compared to newer books. For instance, looking at the below search for Al-Qadim, you can get the "Land of Fate" campaign setting for $9.99 and the Al-Qadim rulebook for $4.99. Both will have significant lore (more in the campaign setting). Compare that to a 5e book, most of which are around $35 and you can probably pick up those two books and probably 2 other supplements for about the same price. I personally loved Ruined Kingdoms.
https://www.dmsguild.com/browse.php?filters=0_0_45361_0_0_0_0_0&term=al- |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
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Posted - 02 Dec 2025 : 17:31:49
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Originally posted by Quasymor
Soo I was looking at the wiki fandom of Fr and I realized that there isn't much about efreeties, like, aside from the fact that they live mostly in the sun (wtf ?) ain't they related to Calimshan or Amn since they're from Islamic culture as those lands are the closest culturally and geographically based on the Maghreb, just like djinns ?
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kinda want to know more, and when they don't live on the elemental fire plane or sun, where do they prefer to go ? Do they have some contact with humans or Toril creatures ? Do they kinda act like cavern monsters terrifying people, demanding sacrifice and hiding treasures, or are they smarter than that ?
eah, efreeti definitely aren’t just “fire monsters in caves.” They’re highly intelligent, politically minded, and tied into a lot of deeper planar and regional lore. Al-Qadim probably gives the clearest picture of their culture — prideful, scheming, imperial, and very aware of their power.
On Toril, you mostly see them where ancient pacts, summoning traditions, or planar ruptures exist — Calimshan being the classic example.
Seriously, these damn things are getting out of hand.
Trying to disguise THEIR crap by inserting false bits into "quotes" of other people's posts.
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PattPlays
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Posted - 11 Dec 2025 : 15:11:33
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From my research on the inner planes- it seems that Efreeti used to be considered a wholly neutral people. I recall that the Djiin became extremely militaristic and expansionist- as a flat out evil empire. The fall of the Aqaa after the war with the demons seems to have openned up a niche that was claimed by the djiin.
Nowadays the Efreeti have an empire of their own across bordering inner planar and para-elemental domains. The regions where the Djiini and Efreeti empires meet is full of no mans lands and battlefields. Efreeti skirmish with Djiini- often using mercenary troops against one another. The core of the para-elemental plane of smoke houses an Archomental who rules an independent small kingdom of which neither genie faction can subvert. It sure is one hell of a cold war over there.
It was fascinating to learn that the Efreeti seem to only become "bad guys" when they saved the whole of the Elemental Planes from the ambition of the Great Caliph. The Djiini, having assumed the title of the established order, galavant around with Good tagged on their monster entries. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Dec 2025 : 08:13:21
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I believe 1E Efreet tended to be Evil-aligned?
And they were basically only encountered whenever one was released from a magical item/prison/curse?
Always handled with extreme wariness because they could grant wishes. Which meant they were automatically instruments of an antagonistic DM who would interpret whatever was (mis)spoken in their presence in the most creatively malign and punishing and exacting way a dictionary could make possible.
I admit Efreet were never a major feature in our games.
We didn't see much of them when we were stuck on our clueless mudball Prime homeworld.
We didn't see much of them when we got access to spelljamming and planeswalking because our focus immediately locked onto other Spheres/Primes, Outer Planes, and other exotic once-in-a-lifetime destinations.
We could have encountered them with some frequency within the Inner Planes.
But dozens of planar spokes on the Great Wheel are far more glamourous than a single handful of tortuously ininhabitable Inner Planes. We never chose to go into the Inner Planes. We always chose to get back out of the Inner Planes. |
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