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Galuf the Dwarf
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Posted - 24 Mar 2025 :  20:33:47  Show Profile Send Galuf the Dwarf a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Well, this is it, folks. I'm hoping to finally finish the Throne of Bhaal expansion for Baldur's Gate II after a little over 20 years. I almost managed it with the original version back in the day, but life happened and I ran out of time (and interest) for it.

In the following decades, I have grown so much strategically with this game that it seems like a borderline cakewalk. I run into the occasional tough opponent, but I also easily rethink and re-strategize to get the upper hand. Also, this time around with Baldur's Gate II: Enhanced Edition, I managed to do something I never did in Shadows of Amn. I BEAT KANGAXX!!

As of this post, I have just started Sendai's Enclave. The encounter with the drow prior to entering was like throwing branches in a wood chipper. Quick and concise yet brutal. All buffed and intricately placed, my team (my Cavalier, Minsc, Sarevok, Anomen, Imoen and my character's romance Aerie) chopped up the Drow Mage in seconds, followed by the 'woodcutter' and his cronies in rapid succession. The Myconids inside the entrance of the enclave faired no better. This should be done in a jiffy, just you wait. Stay tuned!

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TomCosta
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Posted - 26 Mar 2025 :  17:47:29  Show Profile Send TomCosta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just finished replaying BG1 and 2 myself (about a week ago). I don't remember ever playing Throne of Bhaal back in the day, so I think that was all new or I completely forgot the entire game. Still fun games.
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Galuf the Dwarf
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Posted - 26 Mar 2025 :  22:15:50  Show Profile Send Galuf the Dwarf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TomCosta

I just finished replaying BG1 and 2 myself (about a week ago). I don't remember ever playing Throne of Bhaal back in the day, so I think that was all new or I completely forgot the entire game. Still fun games.



Ah, Mr. Costa! Fancy seeing you responding to such a topic of mine.

I was curious: What character did you play in those games, and who were your parties for BG1, Siege of Dragonspear (if you played it) and BG2?

My BG1EE party was the 'Canon Party' (Imoen, Khalid, Jaheira, Minsc and Dynaheir), with the same party by the time Khalid returned (but with Glint Gardnersonson in place of Imoen for plot reasons) in SoD. BG2: SoA was my ToB party but with Jaheira (obviously) instead of Sarevok except for when she was absent during parts of her personal quest and replaced by other characters for the quests they were involved with.

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TomCosta
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Posted - 28 Mar 2025 :  21:53:26  Show Profile Send TomCosta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I played dwarf fighter (berserker) as my main character and my companions were Jaheira, Khalid/Captain Corwin, Dynahaier, Minsc, and Imoen for BG1 EE and Jaheira, Aerie, Anomen Delryn, Jan Jansen, and Keldorn Firecam for BG2 EE. For BG2, I pretty much planned out who I was going to get and keep from the get go. I thought about keeping Minsc in BG2, but he was too redundant with my own character and I didn't like the delay in being able to get Imoen back so I didn't get her.

That said, I was pretty much a completist for both games, doing nearly every sidequest I could, absent a few that were dedicated to specific characters I didn't have or evil quests.
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Galuf the Dwarf
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Posted - 29 Mar 2025 :  12:35:20  Show Profile Send Galuf the Dwarf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The good news? Sendai is down, so on to Abazigal.

The bad news? Aerie's romance has triggered beyond the pregnancy announcement (which my character expressed how excited/happy he was). Don't know if it's a bug or not, but I remember by now, I would have had one or two more dialogues for such.

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ElfBane
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Posted - 30 Mar 2025 :  11:02:37  Show Profile Send ElfBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
IIRC, Throne of Bhaal Aerie romance (and others) were notoriously buggy. Join this Forum, http://www.ironworksforum.com/forum/index.php , and post your questions in the appropriate sub-forum. They have a wealth of info.
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ElfBane
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Posted - 30 Mar 2025 :  11:05:55  Show Profile Send ElfBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You can also just post a question like this "Throne of Bhaal romance bugs", on the Web, and you'll get PLENTY of leads.

Edited by - ElfBane on 30 Mar 2025 11:32:08
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ElfBane
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Posted - 30 Mar 2025 :  13:15:32  Show Profile Send ElfBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ALSO, if you ever do another run thru ToB, you can romance Viconia. AND, if you're careful, you can Turn her. AAMOF, there are Viconia Romance walkthrus on the Web.
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Athreeren
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Posted - 30 Mar 2025 :  15:52:19  Show Profile Send Athreeren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ElfBane

You can also just post a question like this "Throne of Bhaal romance bugs", on the Web, and you'll get PLENTY of leads.



In general, the answer is something like
C:SetGLOBAL("AerieRomanceActive","GLOBAL",1) (just in case it was broken by her dying at some point for instance)
C:SetGlobal("AerieRomance","Global",1)
not being in a dungeon or in the middle of a battle and going to sleep often helps (although some lovetalks trigger at the end of a battle, but I don't think that's the case for Aerie).
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Galuf the Dwarf
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Posted - 31 Mar 2025 :  03:36:26  Show Profile Send Galuf the Dwarf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Athreeren

quote:
Originally posted by ElfBane

You can also just post a question like this "Throne of Bhaal romance bugs", on the Web, and you'll get PLENTY of leads.



In general, the answer is something like
C:SetGLOBAL("AerieRomanceActive","GLOBAL",1) (just in case it was broken by her dying at some point for instance)
C:SetGlobal("AerieRomance","Global",1)
not being in a dungeon or in the middle of a battle and going to sleep often helps (although some lovetalks trigger at the end of a battle, but I don't think that's the case for Aerie).




She's never died, so that's not the issue. In the original version, they triggered before a battle. In fact, it once did JUST before I fought Sendai in that version.

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TomCosta
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Posted - 31 Mar 2025 :  14:44:21  Show Profile Send TomCosta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Being a dwarf in my game, I had no romance options (or at least none that appeared with the crew I used), which was fine, but I found interesting.

Edited by - TomCosta on 31 Mar 2025 14:45:29
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Galuf the Dwarf
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Posted - 08 Apr 2025 :  01:11:17  Show Profile Send Galuf the Dwarf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Update: One of the experts at the Sorcerers Place forum figured out what was wrong and found the console code I needed to trigger the romance dialogue, so I'm caught up until I beat the final Pocket Plane challenge. Then it's just waiting until Aerie pops out the baby & take on the final boss. Hopefully, I'll get this done once and for all soon enough.

Either way, as far as the main plot of ToB, I'm making my way through Abazigal's Lair. That's going relatively swimmingly so far.

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Galuf the Dwarf
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Posted - 15 Apr 2025 :  12:25:39  Show Profile Send Galuf the Dwarf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Update: Abazigal's Lair is done now, as is the resulting Pocket Plane challenge. Now just need to take care of Balthazar and the final Pocket Plane challenge, conclude Aerie's romance, and then beat the final boss.

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Galuf the Dwarf
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Posted - 17 Apr 2025 :  01:45:44  Show Profile Send Galuf the Dwarf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Update: Balthazar is gone, last Pocket Plane challenge is done, and the second-to-last (that I know of) Aerie romance dialogue triggered like it did in my original playthrough 20 years ago. Now just to wait out my character's child being born, get whatever I may need (Watcher's Keep is already done, BTW), and then it's on to the final boss!

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Edited by - Galuf the Dwarf on 17 Apr 2025 01:46:04
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Galuf the Dwarf
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Posted - 17 Apr 2025 :  03:36:31  Show Profile Send Galuf the Dwarf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
THIS JUST IN: THE BABY'S BORN!!

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Athreeren
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Posted - 17 Apr 2025 :  09:33:56  Show Profile Send Athreeren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Congratulations! An inventory slot permanently lost to a useless item! For verisimilitude's sake, it should also permanently give you the fatigued condition.
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Galuf the Dwarf
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Posted - 17 Apr 2025 :  14:06:09  Show Profile Send Galuf the Dwarf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's over, ladies and gentlemen... After over 20 years, as of last night, I FINALLY BEAT THRONE OF BHAAL!!

The ending was more or less how I expected it to play out. The best part was seeing the epilogue Aerie got with my character. Now THAT is a happy ending!

All that's left now is to the beat The Black Pits II - which should be soon - and I can possibly give BG2EE a rest, and hopefully upgrade my OS for Baldur's Gate III.

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Galuf the Dwarf
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Posted - 17 Apr 2025 :  15:55:10  Show Profile Send Galuf the Dwarf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Athreeren

Congratulations! An inventory slot permanently lost to a useless item! For verisimilitude's sake, it should also permanently give you the fatigued condition.



My advice: If that's the way you look at parenthood, don't have children.

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HighOne
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Posted - 18 Apr 2025 :  01:45:10  Show Profile Send HighOne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've never replayed BG2. I'll get around to it someday. But I wish they'd included more outdoor exploration like in BG1. That was my favorite part of the series.
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