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EltonRobb
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 12 Mar 2025 :  01:42:22  Show Profile Send EltonRobb a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I have this weird idea for a drow campaign, again. sigh. I have the following books:
The Drow of the Underdark (2e) by Ed Greenwood.
Drow of the Underdark (3.5e) by WotC team.

Which do you suggest I get for research? I already have the drow trilogy of novels by R.A. Salvatore.

Delnyn
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 12 Mar 2025 :  05:59:23  Show Profile Send Delnyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How about the AD&D drow series D1-3 as PDFs? Both sourcebooks you mentioned are good. I was not sure about your budget.
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EltonRobb
Learned Scribe

USA
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Posted - 12 Mar 2025 :  15:42:47  Show Profile Send EltonRobb a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Delnyn

How about the AD&D drow series D1-3 as PDFs? Both sourcebooks you mentioned are good. I was not sure about your budget.



Probably, I just checked them out. I already have Vault of the Drow, a gift from my cousin (he also gave me Queen of the Demonweb Pits).
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 12 Mar 2025 :  18:05:03  Show Profile Send The Arcanamach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The 2e book is hands down the better of the two, IMO, but the 3e version is great as well. For that matter, the 4e book concerning the drow is good too.

I'm not sure what kind of campaign you're planning to run, but I ran a game once that involved the fall of a noble house where PCs were survivors (but too low level to maintain their House). The guilty House that attacked (meaning they lost) were wiped out. The PCs House was kept sort of suspended until the PCs could grow in power to claim a rightful place in Menzoberranzan's hierarchy. The PCs wen ton adventures and were supposed to return to re-establish themselves, but the campaign derailed and fell apart before we could get to that point.

I have a dream that one day, all game worlds will exist as one.
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EltonRobb
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Posted - 12 Mar 2025 :  18:43:59  Show Profile Send EltonRobb a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Arcanamach

The 2e book is hands down the better of the two, IMO, but the 3e version is great as well. For that matter, the 4e book concerning the drow is good too.


Okay. I was looking for a book on Menzoberranzan that was made for 2e, but could not find it. Maybe I should try ebay.

quote:
I'm not sure what kind of campaign you're planning to run, but I ran a game once that involved the fall of a noble house where PCs were survivors (but too low level to maintain their House). The guilty House that attacked (meaning they lost) were wiped out. The PCs House was kept sort of suspended until the PCs could grow in power to claim a rightful place in Menzoberranzan's hierarchy. The PCs wen ton adventures and were supposed to return to re-establish themselves, but the campaign derailed and fell apart before we could get to that point.



Sounds like you had a fun game. As for my campaign, I just got the idea last night.
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The Arcanamach
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Posted - 12 Mar 2025 :  23:33:15  Show Profile Send The Arcanamach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okay I think you want the Menzoberranzan City of Spiders boxed set. Do you have a discord handle? If you send it to me (or contact me via discord, my handle is the same as the one here), I'll can help you out.

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EltonRobb
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Posted - 13 Mar 2025 :  00:04:29  Show Profile Send EltonRobb a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Arcanamach

Okay I think you want the Menzoberranzan City of Spiders boxed set. Do you have a discord handle? If you send it to me (or contact me via discord, my handle is the same as the one here), I'll can help you out.



Okay, I sent you a friend request on Discord.
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TBeholder
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Posted - 14 Mar 2025 :  10:12:50  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
D series / GDQ are in Greyhawk, and they are... truncated to the point of plot not making a freaking sense.
AD&D2 era FR sources FR sources are:
The Drow of the Underdark (Ed Greenwood) FOR2 #9326
Menzoberranzan (Ed Greenwood, Douglas Niles & R.A. Salvatore) #1083
Also underdark (thus with more drow content):
Ruins of Undermountain box (Ed Greenwood) #1060
The Ruins of Undermountain II: The Deep Levels box (Jean Rabe, Norm Ritchie & Donald Bingle) #1104
Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark (Eric L. Boyd) #11509
Dungeon Crawl Series: 6 books of different designers.

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EltonRobb
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Posted - 14 Mar 2025 :  16:14:40  Show Profile Send EltonRobb a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TBeholder

D series / GDQ are in Greyhawk, and they are... truncated to the point of plot not making a freaking sense.
AD&D2 era FR sources FR sources are:
The Drow of the Underdark (Ed Greenwood) FOR2 #9326
Menzoberranzan (Ed Greenwood, Douglas Niles & R.A. Salvatore) #1083
Also underdark (thus with more drow content):
Ruins of Undermountain box (Ed Greenwood) #1060
The Ruins of Undermountain II: The Deep Levels box (Jean Rabe, Norm Ritchie & Donald Bingle) #1104
Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark (Eric L. Boyd) #11509
Dungeon Crawl Series: 6 books of different designers.




That's quite helpful. Thank you very much!
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TomCosta
Forgotten Realms Designer

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Posted - 14 Mar 2025 :  16:51:02  Show Profile Send TomCosta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Also 3e Underdark book.
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EltonRobb
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Posted - 14 Mar 2025 :  17:09:09  Show Profile Send EltonRobb a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TomCosta

Also 3e Underdark book.



Thanks! I did manage to get a pdf of Underdark (3e), and a pdf of the 4e Menzoberranzan book two days ago. Probably not in as much detail as the 2e Menzoberranzan boxed set, but a place to begin.

You've been a great help, Tom!
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 15 Mar 2025 :  15:09:24  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EltonRobb

quote:
Originally posted by TomCosta

Also 3e Underdark book.



Thanks! I did manage to get a pdf of Underdark (3e), and a pdf of the 4e Menzoberranzan book two days ago. Probably not in as much detail as the 2e Menzoberranzan boxed set, but a place to begin.

You've been a great help, Tom!



You should be able to get legal pdfs of all of them via DriveThruRPG

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EltonRobb
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Posted - 15 Mar 2025 :  15:13:22  Show Profile Send EltonRobb a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
You should be able to get legal pdfs of all of them via DriveThruRPG



I did buy them through Drivethru.
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist

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Posted - 15 Mar 2025 :  17:30:33  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes for 5e drowic views (and god listings) might help a bit. To note, in the 5e list of drowic gods there is Malyk, and in canon lore this was a drow god of wild magic raised up with Talos' aid following the ToT. Talos then supposedly "consumed" Malyk and used him as an "alias" in an attempt to seize the portfolio of wild and destructive magic from Mystra. One would imagine that with Malyk officially being "back" (when he was "introduced" I believe he'd already been consumed... unless there was something in polyhedron) that the "consuming" of him was less than complete

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 17 Mar 2025 :  02:37:11  Show Profile Send The Arcanamach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For some reason I don't see a friend request from you. Not sure why. Discord handle should come up as The Arcanamach. If that doesn't work then thearcanamach?

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