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Galuf the Dwarf
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Posted - 15 Jan 2025 :  02:25:35  Show Profile Send Galuf the Dwarf a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I've been figuring with the relative success of my previous 'Anti-Arcane Spellcaster' thread that this would be on the horizon. Anyway...

1) Dwarven Defender character, likely with Fighter or Paladin as base class. Likely Shield Dwarf, Gold Dwarf or (if Fighter or Paladin of Tyranny) Gray Dwarf, depending on region and alignment.

2) Barbarian, likely staying strictly in said class. Race doesn't matter as much but could be Human, Half-Orc, Shield Dwarf or (depending on region) Wood Elf or Wild Elf.

3) Cleric with the Fate or (if using my homebrew domains) Fear domain, and some levels in Rogue. Optionally, a Druid utilizing an Animal Companion or Wild Shapes that help with detection.

4) Rogue, likely with max ranks in Listen, Search and Spot. Disable Device may likely also be useful (namely if enemies utilize traps).

5) Sorcerer or Wizard (namely a Diviner) with numerous spells that aid in detecting stealthy opponents (particularly from the Divination school of magic).


That's what I can think of off the top of my head.

Galuf's Baldur's Gate NPC stats: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8823
Galuf's 3.5 Ed. Cleric Domains: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14036
Galuf's Homebrew 4th Edition Races: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13787
Galuf's Homebrew Specialty Priest PrCs: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14353
Galuf's Forgotten Realms Heralds and Allies thread: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8766

Edited by - Galuf the Dwarf on 15 Jan 2025 02:26:11

Delnyn
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Posted - 15 Jan 2025 :  08:53:02  Show Profile Send Delnyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cleric with levels as Divine Oracle. The foresight spell is also extremely useful.
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Galuf the Dwarf
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Posted - 16 Jan 2025 :  03:01:41  Show Profile Send Galuf the Dwarf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Delnyn

Cleric with levels as Divine Oracle. The foresight spell is also extremely useful.



Yeah, should've thought of that. I swear my head's been just a hint foggy since I've been recovering from COVID.

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Galuf's 3.5 Ed. Cleric Domains: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14036
Galuf's Homebrew 4th Edition Races: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13787
Galuf's Homebrew Specialty Priest PrCs: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14353
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Galuf the Dwarf
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Posted - 19 Jan 2025 :  02:46:11  Show Profile Send Galuf the Dwarf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So for a little more context, here's what I was thinking with this party for possible campaign arcs:
1) Escort mission to protect a certain NPC (likely with valuable information or such) from assassins, namely from a group like the Zhentarim, the Iron Throne, an evil-aligned church/cult, etc.

2) The party is the actual target of the assassin(s), due to them jeopardizing a plan by their employer.

3) The assassin(s) is/are the target of the party, who is wanted for the murder of an important NPC (whether it's a canon NPC or one made specifically for the campaign). That, or they get wind of the plans of said assassin(s) and intend to stop t hem before the killer(s) complete their mission.

Galuf's Baldur's Gate NPC stats: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8823
Galuf's 3.5 Ed. Cleric Domains: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14036
Galuf's Homebrew 4th Edition Races: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13787
Galuf's Homebrew Specialty Priest PrCs: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14353
Galuf's Forgotten Realms Heralds and Allies thread: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8766
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Delnyn
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Posted - 19 Jan 2025 :  05:12:15  Show Profile Send Delnyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For non epic, I suggest devoted Defender. For epic campaigns, I suggest Guardian Paramount.
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Galuf the Dwarf
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Posted - 19 Jan 2025 :  16:03:16  Show Profile Send Galuf the Dwarf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Delnyn

For non epic, I suggest devoted Defender. For epic campaigns, I suggest Guardian Paramount.



Devoted Defender I am familiar with thanks to Sword and Fist. Guardian Paramount, I recently heard of thanks to LordofBones and his 3.5 Edition deity revamps. Where he said it is from, though, is evading me.

Galuf's Baldur's Gate NPC stats: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8823
Galuf's 3.5 Ed. Cleric Domains: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14036
Galuf's Homebrew 4th Edition Races: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13787
Galuf's Homebrew Specialty Priest PrCs: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14353
Galuf's Forgotten Realms Heralds and Allies thread: forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8766
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Delnyn
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Posted - 19 Jan 2025 :  17:18:40  Show Profile Send Delnyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Guardian Paramount is from Epic Level Handbook.
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