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Seravin
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Posted - 09 Jan 2025 :  20:42:02  Show Profile Send Seravin a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
While we know that Finder gave Alias her false memories of being an sell-sword adventurer; the sisters like Jade, Cat, Zhara also had some memories and skills (as a thief or mage or priestess) when they awoke. Do we think Phalse gave them their backstory and memories, or was it Tymora/another god?

Cat could recall her hometown of Ordulin but nothing else, and she knew how to cast spells when the Zhents captured her and gave her a minor spellbook. She was primarily motivated to get back her memory from Flattery which obviously didn't exist.


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Posted - 10 Jan 2025 :  01:44:39  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would assume Phalse did it.

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TomCosta
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Agreed.
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sleyvas
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I really need to go back and reread these old books with the foresight that I have now. I bet there's a billion twists I could throw on things

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Seravin
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Thanks all - my argument against it being Phalse would be that unlike Finder, Phalse would not know a lot of Realms lore and history that would make up the base knowledge needed for someone born in say Ordulin, Sembia - BUT - on reflection, if Phalse copied some base memories from the Alias clone and left most of it blank, then it works. Cat didn't know nearly anything other than where she was from (vs Alias having a full selection of adventures and Shadowdale that she remembered) - and Jade seemingly had no memories but didn't care which Olive loved about her. For Zhara we really don't get much of her memories/back story, so it could be she's like Jade/Cat with limited memories - in which case only Alias had a really fleshed out history beyond the amensia of the past year before her "birth" which was blank.
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quote:
Originally posted by Seravin

Thanks all - my argument against it being Phalse would be that unlike Finder, Phalse would not know a lot of Realms lore and history that would make up the base knowledge needed for someone born in say Ordulin, Sembia - BUT - on reflection, if Phalse copied some base memories from the Alias clone and left most of it blank, then it works. Cat didn't know nearly anything other than where she was from (vs Alias having a full selection of adventures and Shadowdale that she remembered) - and Jade seemingly had no memories but didn't care which Olive loved about her. For Zhara we really don't get much of her memories/back story, so it could be she's like Jade/Cat with limited memories - in which case only Alias had a really fleshed out history beyond the amensia of the past year before her "birth" which was blank.



That works. Phalse could have also skimmed some memories from the members of the Fire Knives, too, and used those.

I figure that since Phalse was expanding on the idea of the vessels being assassins that could be aimed at particular targets, he likely would want them to have at least enough memories and knowledge to be able to do what was expected.

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