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varyar
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Posted - 24 Nov 2024 :  19:53:45  Show Profile  Visit varyar's Homepage Send varyar a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hey all. I'm curious if any books, be they FR or Greyhawk or generic, ever said what the name Lolth means. (Or Araushnee, for that matter!)

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Posted - 24 Nov 2024 :  20:51:09  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have not seen anything, however that might be because the name does not have a meaning. I do understand that many names do have meaning. I do not believe all names have a meaning. In fact I have met people who's family name was what was written down (Invented) at Ellis Island immigrant station.

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varyar
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Posted - 24 Nov 2024 :  21:02:56  Show Profile  Visit varyar's Homepage Send varyar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's most likely the case here, but I was curious and thought I'd see if anybody knew :)

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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 27 Nov 2024 :  19:43:45  Show Profile Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-Given that it's not her "original" name (retroactive though), that's actually an interesting thing to think about. Why did she choose "Lolth" for her new name.

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varyar
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Posted - 27 Nov 2024 :  22:09:49  Show Profile  Visit varyar's Homepage Send varyar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In my headcanon (as of yesterday), "Lolth" means "Mistress" in an archaic Abyssal dialect.

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The Sage
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Posted - 27 Nov 2024 :  23:22:09  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I once tinkered with two possibilities for the origin of her name.

The first suggested it was actually a more “modern” [and poor] translation of her forgotten original name of Lilith - suggesting that it would then incorporate some of the themes associated with that name from Mesopotamian mythology into my version of Lolth in the Realms.

The other… is actually more of a thought experiment than actual lore I’ve established beyond a few notes in a notebook. Loosely, Lolth is a later rendering of what some in ancient times would call “lost” … suggesting Lolth’s origins are forgotten and that she may be a “lost” deity from another dead material plane/reality. Thus, the Lost deity became Lolth after later mistaken translations and curious pronunciations in various demihuman dialects. Lost to Lolth, for example.

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