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Feanor Posted - 23 Aug 2005 : 15:30:06
I've found this piece of information on wikipedia : A paladin by the name of Miltiades, was condemned by Tyr to exist as an undead knight for his resorting to dishonorable assassination tactics to kill his enemy, Zarl. Unlike the death knights mentioned above, though, Miltiades retained his sense of good, and fought by the sides of good heroes, helping to defeat the forces of Bane. He was eventually restored to life by Tyr, after helping the heroes destroy a pool of darkness and a pool of twilight.


Can anyone tell me why this Zarl was so much hated by Miltiades that he resorted to such tricks to kill him ?
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Warrax Posted - 04 Sep 2007 : 00:11:16
Heh, "Pools of Darkness" was the first FR book I ever read; Pools of Radiance was the second. Then I read like a dozen others before I finally got my hands on Pools of Twilight, lol.
Misericordia Posted - 24 Aug 2005 : 17:02:57
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

quote:
Originally posted by Misericordia

hhhhmmmm, I remember something (but I'm not so sure).

Tyr raised the knight to fight Bane's power near Phlan, so he can be granted eternal peace.




The last parts not quite accurate Tyr raised Miltiades as a form of undead to help in Pools of Darkness he was returned to life at the conclusion of Pool of Twilight ie hes no longer "Undead" post PoT



True! Too many years since last reading...
Feanor Posted - 24 Aug 2005 : 15:19:35
quote:
Originally posted by Misericordia

hhhhmmmm, I remember something (but I'm not so sure).
Miltiades was a paladin of Tyr in a city called Turell (or something like Turell), and was so brave that other tyrians gave him a magical helm, th Holy shield of Tyr and a runic sword to fight evils.
Turell stood near Phlan, and Miltiades was stewart and guardian of the city.
Zarl was a warrior-mage who besieged the city for over a year; during the siege Miltiades fought bravely and seek a face-to-face with Zarl, who refused every time.
When the city was near to fall Miltiades seek to take Zarl with stealth in his camp, and in the battle Zarl was killed, but also Miltiades fall to his enemy's men.
After the death of Miltiades Turell was leveled by Zarl's men.
Zarl's spirit remained near Miltiade's tomb, and the paladin was cursed by his god having refused the rest granted to heroes slain in battle.
Tyr raised the knight to fight Bane's power near Phlan, so he can be granted eternal peace.

Hope this will help!



It does ! Long live Candlekeep !
warlockco Posted - 24 Aug 2005 : 08:37:24
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

quote:
Originally posted by Realmslore

In addition to the Heroes of Phlan trilogy, Miltiades is also featured in the Double Diamond Triangle Saga.



Didn't know that.
But we have been told to regard that series as a bad drug induced hallucination.



Which one? The first certainly qualifies as that, to me.



The later, but thinking back, the former could qualify too.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 24 Aug 2005 : 05:51:49
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

quote:
Originally posted by Realmslore

In addition to the Heroes of Phlan trilogy, Miltiades is also featured in the Double Diamond Triangle Saga.



Didn't know that.
But we have been told to regard that series as a bad drug induced hallucination.



Which one? The first certainly qualifies as that, to me.
Dargoth Posted - 24 Aug 2005 : 04:44:51
quote:
Originally posted by Misericordia

hhhhmmmm, I remember something (but I'm not so sure).
Miltiades was a paladin of Tyr in a city called Turell (or something like Turell), and was so brave that other tyrians gave him a magical helm, th Holy shield of Tyr and a runic sword to fight evils.
Turell stood near Phlan, and Miltiades was stewart and guardian of the city.
Zarl was a warrior-mage who besieged the city for over a year; during the siege Miltiades fought bravely and seek a face-to-face with Zarl, who refused every time.
When the city was near to fall Miltiades seek to take Zarl with stealth in his camp, and in the battle Zarl was killed, but also Miltiades fall to his enemy's men.
After the death of Miltiades Turell was leveled by Zarl's men.
Zarl's spirit remained near Miltiade's tomb, and the paladin was cursed by his god having refused the rest granted to heroes slain in battle.
Tyr raised the knight to fight Bane's power near Phlan, so he can be granted eternal peace.

Hope this will help!



The last parts not quite accurate Tyr raised Miltiades as a form of undead to help in Pools of Darkness he was returned to life at the conclusion of Pool of Twilight ie hes no longer "Undead" post PoT
warlockco Posted - 24 Aug 2005 : 04:28:46
quote:
Originally posted by Realmslore

In addition to the Heroes of Phlan trilogy, Miltiades is also featured in the Double Diamond Triangle Saga.



Didn't know that.
But we have been told to regard that series as a bad drug induced hallucination.
Brian R. James Posted - 24 Aug 2005 : 04:09:37
In addition to the Heroes of Phlan trilogy, Miltiades is also featured in the Double Diamond Triangle Saga.
Misericordia Posted - 23 Aug 2005 : 19:01:45
hhhhmmmm, I remember something (but I'm not so sure).
Miltiades was a paladin of Tyr in a city called Turell (or something like Turell), and was so brave that other tyrians gave him a magical helm, th Holy shield of Tyr and a runic sword to fight evils.
Turell stood near Phlan, and Miltiades was stewart and guardian of the city.
Zarl was a warrior-mage who besieged the city for over a year; during the siege Miltiades fought bravely and seek a face-to-face with Zarl, who refused every time.
When the city was near to fall Miltiades seek to take Zarl with stealth in his camp, and in the battle Zarl was killed, but also Miltiades fall to his enemy's men.
After the death of Miltiades Turell was leveled by Zarl's men.
Zarl's spirit remained near Miltiade's tomb, and the paladin was cursed by his god having refused the rest granted to heroes slain in battle.
Tyr raised the knight to fight Bane's power near Phlan, so he can be granted eternal peace.

Hope this will help!
Kuje Posted - 23 Aug 2005 : 18:42:27
It's been awhile, IE years!, since I read and reread those novels but I recall that Zarl was a king or something.... Take that with a grain of salt though because as I said, it's been years. :)
Wooly Rupert Posted - 23 Aug 2005 : 17:15:42
I think he's from the Heroes of Phlan trilogy, which I didn't really like. I've never even bothered to pick up the third book.
Feanor Posted - 23 Aug 2005 : 16:00:41
quote:
Originally posted by Melfius

Zarl owed Miltiades money?



Good one, Melfius ! But I'm serious (and since I don't have access to most books - because I live in Romania : there are no AD&D books here, amazon does not ship here and to order from abroad something around 5-10$ does not worth the effort -, I have to rely on Candlekeep )
Melfius Posted - 23 Aug 2005 : 15:37:39
Zarl owed Miltiades money?

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