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| Osieu |
Posted - 15 Jun 2004 : 06:25:40
Would anyone plz tell me what exactly did Shar do in Time of Trouble?
I've checked the 2E book and found that she once pretended to be Selune. Some said the details of this event are in the DND comic, but I cant get the books here. Can anyone tell me more about it please? Thank you very much! |
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| cpthero2 |
Posted - 30 Sep 2018 : 20:05:10
Seeker Zzdtri,
Here is a great reference on that, with citations.
http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Shar
Best regards,
quote:
Originally posted by Zzdtri
I'd like to know more about what gods of elven pantheon did during ToT. Any resources on that. Who is the authority on that anyway?
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| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 18 Jun 2004 : 15:05:37
quote:
Originally posted by Sarelle
I would imagine a lot of them would have, but as mentioned in the link above, Labelas certainly travelled a bit.
Indeed. And he didn't prove to be the best traveling companion... |
| Sarelle |
Posted - 18 Jun 2004 : 11:00:59
I would imagine a lot of them would have, but as mentioned in the link above, Labelas certainly travelled a bit. |
| Darkheyr |
Posted - 18 Jun 2004 : 10:10:48
As far as I know, all of the Seldarine resided on Evermeet during the ToT. |
| Sarta |
Posted - 16 Jun 2004 : 10:11:14
He mentioned this recently in his thread in the novel section. He basically explained that he had done an article in Dragon magazine about how a DM can fix problems with his or her campaign such as rules changes, introducting new rules, or getting rid of troublesome things from a campaign. His suggestion was a world-shaking event, such as a god war. When the change was made from 1st edition to 2nd edition, TSR decided to follow Ed's advice to explain the rules changes.
Sarta |
| Kuje |
Posted - 16 Jun 2004 : 07:35:00
quote:
Originally posted by Zzdtri
I meant who actually thought up the Time of Troubles. If it's one of the authors that are on this forum, I'd ask that person.
Ed did in one of his older Dragon articles, but TSR expanded on it and thus we got the Time of Troubles. |
| Sarta |
Posted - 16 Jun 2004 : 07:34:27
Faiths and Avatars and Forgotten Realms Adventures are both pretty good sources for Times of Trouble information. Faiths and Avatars is pretty nice because it also goes over the shakedown of the Cyrinishad mess. Quite a few churches and deities were changed around 1368.
Sarta |
| Zzdtri |
Posted - 16 Jun 2004 : 07:12:01
quote:
Authority in what regards? Do you mean which tomes provided the information on where all the gods were during the ToT?
I meant who actually thought up the Time of Troubles. If it's one of the authors that are on this forum, I'd ask that person.
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| SiriusBlack |
Posted - 16 Jun 2004 : 04:59:24
quote:
Originally posted by Zzdtri
I'd like to know more about what gods of elven pantheon did during ToT. Any resources on that. Who is the authority on that anyway?
Authority in what regards? Do you mean which tomes provided the information on where all the gods were during the ToT? |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 16 Jun 2004 : 00:40:46
quote:
Originally posted by Zzdtri
I'd like to know more about what gods of elven pantheon did during ToT. Any resources on that. Who is the authority on that anyway?
Well, the link given above does cover some of the elven deities... |
| DDH_101 |
Posted - 15 Jun 2004 : 23:30:11
I am not sure about this but the elven gods mainly involved themselves in teaching the Elven High Mages the arcane arts and also helping them fight the drow... |
| Zzdtri |
Posted - 15 Jun 2004 : 22:31:52
I'd like to know more about what gods of elven pantheon did during ToT. Any resources on that. Who is the authority on that anyway?
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| SiriusBlack |
Posted - 15 Jun 2004 : 14:27:06
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
As for the first mention of Shar slaying Ibrandul... I believe it was the Ruins of Undermountain boxed set. The Monstrous Compendium entry for ibrandlin speaks of Ibrandul and how Shar slew him.
That rings some sorta vague bell. Thanks for providing that information.
Maybe there will be another piece of connected lore in the Waterdeep gaming product next year: Slayer of Ibrandul Prestige Class. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 15 Jun 2004 : 08:21:30
The comic was the Advanced Dungeons & Dragons title. I don't recall the issue numbers, but the story arc was entitled "Phases of the Moon."
Briefly: Selūne was posing as Luna, a bartender in Waterdeep's Dock Ward. She'd been doing this for a while, before the Time of Troubles happened.
When the ToT happened, Shar came to Waterdeep. She posed as the avatar of Selūne. Luna fought Shar at first, but was captured and brainwashed by her. Eventually, her friends freed her and revealed that "Selūne" was an impostor. They battled again, and this time, the real Selūne won.
As for the first mention of Shar slaying Ibrandul... I believe it was the Ruins of Undermountain boxed set. The Monstrous Compendium entry for ibrandlin speaks of Ibrandul and how Shar slew him. |
| SiriusBlack |
Posted - 15 Jun 2004 : 06:59:48
quote:
Originally posted by kuje31
Not sure. In Faiths & Avatars she already had his alias and portfolio, so maybe the 2e box set?....
I'll check if I get the time. The first time I really paid attention to this fact was in the Tazi novel that was part of the Sembia series. |
| Kuje |
Posted - 15 Jun 2004 : 06:57:01
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Thanks for the link. I knew there was a page, but couldn't recall where to find it.
Here's a question, what product/novel first established her killing of Ibrandul?
Not sure. In Faiths & Avatars she already had his alias and portfolio, so maybe the 2e box set?.... |
| SiriusBlack |
Posted - 15 Jun 2004 : 06:52:47
quote:
Originally posted by kuje31
She did both. :)
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Castle/2566/deitylocations.htm
Selūne and Shar: Shar and Selūne fought another round of their age-old battle as mortals in Waterdeep. Shar also secretly slew Ibrandul beneath Waterdeep and stole his portfolio.
Thanks for the link. I knew there was a page, but couldn't recall where to find it.
Here's a question, what product/novel first established her killing of Ibrandul? |
| Osieu |
Posted - 15 Jun 2004 : 06:43:56
Thank you!
I've heard of that Shar somehow "corrupted" Selune's followers in Waterdeep, and that she's finally beaten by Selune and heroes in the comic. I'm actually more interested in what happened in the comics, which I can't get... |
| Kuje |
Posted - 15 Jun 2004 : 06:40:50
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Didn't Shar also kill the God, Ibrandul during The Time of Troubles?
She did both. :)
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Castle/2566/deitylocations.htm
Selūne and Shar: Shar and Selūne fought another round of their age-old battle as mortals in Waterdeep. Shar also secretly slew Ibrandul beneath Waterdeep and stole his portfolio. |
| SiriusBlack |
Posted - 15 Jun 2004 : 06:30:28
Didn't Shar also kill the God, Ibrandul during The Time of Troubles? |
| Kuje |
Posted - 15 Jun 2004 : 06:30:12
She battled Selune in Waterdeep at one point..... That was how Sharess got out from under Shar's thumb as well. |
