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Senbar Flay Posted - 15 May 2004 : 01:22:24
I have read of the insane archmage but havent' been able to find anything on him other than having something to do with Undermountain. Why is he special is he powerful and what is the Grandstaff.
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cpthero2 Posted - 30 Sep 2018 : 16:00:15
Master Rupert,

Anyone huh...how about...Sune? We could give Halaster that makeover he's been needing for, well, about 3600 years. Trim that hair up, get him a dental cleaning (any bets on how many times he's brushed and flossed in the last 3600 years?), and some new threads. I mean, we could have him on Toril's Transformations as one of the most radical makeover's ever in Realms history! Who's to say the man just doesn't need to clean up, fix his likely low self-esteem and just be the god of aesthetics for a bit to fix that bad attitude he's had since that Raurin thing a few years ago......?

Best regards,


quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Anyone would be better than Cyric...

Even with madness involved, I don't see someone putting in literal centuries into developing their own playground, just to toss it all aside and do something very, very different. He's happy where he is and hasn't shown even the slightest indication that he wants to be a deity.

Plus, he's connected to Undermountain -- he actually had more issues when removed from Undermountain.

He's mad, yes -- but there's a method to his madness. And he's gotten a lot better since Mystra aided him. He's still not 100% sane, but he's saner than he was.

cpthero2 Posted - 30 Sep 2018 : 15:47:23
Senior Scribe Hymn,

That is definitely correct. In the new, A Grand History of the Realms, p66 identifies Lord Hilather as the now mad mage Halaster.

Best regards,



quote:
Originally posted by Hymn

I have a question regarding his, clouded origin. As I was searching for info on the Imaskar Empire on Realms - L archive I run across this.

"I would suggest noting the birth of Hilather, last apprentice of the Imaskari wizards."

Now Hilather is, if I am correct, Halaster's true name. I also know that (from various sources) that at Gencons, Ed have hinted at Halaster coming from Imaskar. He have at least not denide the fact.

So is he from the ancient empire, or is it just a wild rumor?

(This isn't perhaps the right place for it since this is supposed to be the canon corner of the library. Sorry for any inconvinence, just thought I add this now that the topic was up, more or less )

Wooly Rupert Posted - 30 Sep 2018 : 15:28:38
Anyone would be better than Cyric...

Even with madness involved, I don't see someone putting in literal centuries into developing their own playground, just to toss it all aside and do something very, very different. He's happy where he is and hasn't shown even the slightest indication that he wants to be a deity.

Plus, he's connected to Undermountain -- he actually had more issues when removed from Undermountain.

He's mad, yes -- but there's a method to his madness. And he's gotten a lot better since Mystra aided him. He's still not 100% sane, but he's saner than he was.
cpthero2 Posted - 30 Sep 2018 : 14:22:33
Master Rupert,

Heck, "perfectly content" seems like something that could get changed with a mad person pretty quick. Perhaps, he has some interest in replacing Cyric as the Mad God? I think Halaster could do a pretty good job!

Best regards,




quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Cardinal Deimos

A perfect heir to Karsus if ever there was one. 'Halaster's Divine Ascendancy spell' anyone?



I don't see Halaster doing that... He's perfectly content to limit his activities to Undermountain -- he doesn't even go into Skullport, much less anywhere else in the world. So him deciding to become a god seems unlikely to me.

George Krashos Posted - 17 May 2004 : 03:41:32
The FR lore-making/mending rule is quite simple: nothing is ever "wrong", there just might be more than one "right" answer.

-- George Krashos
Hymn Posted - 16 May 2004 : 21:38:21
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend
"It's not a bug--it's a feature!"

Quote of Halaster as he pounced on a 2-foot-wide fly and made it his dinner as reported by the Company of the Three-Clawed Griffon on Undermoutain's Level Four

Also the mantra Ed, Eric, George, and I use when untangling Realms history. :)

Steven



lol, so I can imagine.
Steven Schend Posted - 16 May 2004 : 20:49:48
quote:
Originally posted by Hymn

Yeah poor Ed, WotC must give him hell. on a side not is that I also found this in Power and Phanteons:

"It is belived that the Theurgist Adept Thayd, last survivng apprentice of the Imaskari wizards opened a gate, prior to his execution in - 1081 DR."

Hmm, "two" last surviving apprentice(s). Ah, isn't realms lore just wonderfull



"It's not a bug--it's a feature!"

Quote of Halaster as he pounced on a 2-foot-wide fly and made it his dinner as reported by the Company of the Three-Clawed Griffon on Undermoutain's Level Four

Also the mantra Ed, Eric, George, and I use when untangling Realms history. :)

Steven
Hymn Posted - 16 May 2004 : 15:17:00
Yeah poor Ed, WotC must give him hell. on a side not is that I also found this in Power and Phanteons:

"It is belived that the Theurgist Adept Thayd, last survivng apprentice of the Imaskari wizards opened a gate, prior to his execution in - 1081 DR."

Hmm, "two" last surviving apprentice(s). Ah, isn't realms lore just wonderfull
Bookwyrm Posted - 16 May 2004 : 13:27:07
"Conflicting" is what WotC does, not Mr. Greenwood.
Hymn Posted - 16 May 2004 : 13:01:17
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos


Ruins of Undeermountain seems to imply that he has ties with Netheril. The Stardock module obliquely makes connections with him and Imaskar/Raurin. Eric Boyd, Steven Schend (and I) have always operated on the premise that he's Imaskari (but likely was in stasis for a long period after that nation's fall IMHO) and Eric has done some hitherto unrevealed writing that adds further detail to Hilather/Halaster's back-story. When and where it will turn up is anyone's guess ...

-- George Krashos




Hmm, interesting. Just what one might expect in the ever conflicting world of the Realms
Purple Dragon Knight Posted - 16 May 2004 : 10:27:30
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Ruins of Undeermountain seems to imply that he has ties with Netheril. The Stardock module obliquely makes connections with him and Imaskar/Raurin. Eric Boyd, Steven Schend (and I) have always operated on the premise that he's Imaskari (but likely was in stasis for a long period after that nation's fall IMHO) and Eric has done some hitherto unrevealed writing that adds further detail to Hilather/Halaster's back-story. When and where it will turn up is anyone's guess ...

-- George Krashos


Hmmm... I really hope that Eric's writings will get published somewhere, someday... that would make for a fascinating read!
George Krashos Posted - 16 May 2004 : 04:27:08
Ruins of Undeermountain seems to imply that he has ties with Netheril. The Stardock module obliquely makes connections with him and Imaskar/Raurin. Eric Boyd, Steven Schend (and I) have always operated on the premise that he's Imaskari (but likely was in stasis for a long period after that nation's fall IMHO) and Eric has done some hitherto unrevealed writing that adds further detail to Hilather/Halaster's back-story. When and where it will turn up is anyone's guess ...

-- George Krashos
Hymn Posted - 16 May 2004 : 00:13:35
I have a question regarding his, clouded origin. As I was searching for info on the Imaskar Empire on Realms - L archive I run across this.

"I would suggest noting the birth of Hilather, last apprentice of the Imaskari wizards."

Now Hilather is, if I am correct, Halaster's true name. I also know that (from various sources) that at Gencons, Ed have hinted at Halaster coming from Imaskar. He have at least not denide the fact.

So is he from the ancient empire, or is it just a wild rumor?

(This isn't perhaps the right place for it since this is supposed to be the canon corner of the library. Sorry for any inconvinence, just thought I add this now that the topic was up, more or less )
Wooly Rupert Posted - 15 May 2004 : 17:26:42
quote:
Originally posted by Cardinal Deimos

A perfect heir to Karsus if ever there was one. 'Halaster's Divine Ascendancy spell' anyone?



I don't see Halaster doing that... He's perfectly content to limit his activities to Undermountain -- he doesn't even go into Skullport, much less anywhere else in the world. So him deciding to become a god seems unlikely to me.
The Cardinal Posted - 15 May 2004 : 08:57:01
A perfect heir to Karsus if ever there was one. 'Halaster's Divine Ascendancy spell' anyone?
Wooly Rupert Posted - 15 May 2004 : 07:35:21
Ah, I just found something else that could prove useful to you:

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=fr/fx20010509c

It should also be notated that since Elminster in Hell, Halaster isn't quite so insane.

Ed has given this info on ol' Hallie:

quote:
1. Halaster has been around for a LONG time, and for almost all of that time he’s been an enigma. Steven Schend and I pretty well agreed that he was only insane as long as he was in Undermountain, and it seems that ‘the new’ Mystra has freed him from the worst magical effects of its thrall, returning him to sanity. She did NOT make him a Chosen, but instead made a ‘separate peace’ with him, giving him the status of a free-willed agent (from time to time she’ll ask him to do something for her, with new spells or augmented powers as his reward or price, but she will do absolutely nothing to coerce him into service, nor look upon him unfavorably if he refuses).
Whether he’ll become a threat to the wider Realms, or a ‘good guy,’ depends on him. Right at the moment, I personally have no plans for a Halaster novel, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the good folks at WotC are pondering this topic for some scribe’s pen. He is a perfect main character for a pull-out-the-stops spellhurling novel, after all. :}
Wooly Rupert Posted - 15 May 2004 : 07:22:59
According to pages 294-5 of the Epic Level Handbook, Halaster is a 25th-level Wizard and 5th-level Archmage.
DDH_101 Posted - 15 May 2004 : 06:11:54
Haven't found anything on him? His info his everywhere! In fact, I suggest you to download the free Villian's Lorebook in the WotC site where he has an entry there. It's 2e but tehre's some useful info on him.

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