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| Barastir |
Posted - 19 Jun 2013 : 22:00:15
In the Volo's Guide to the North the legend of the Moondark Mountains, an ancient elven cluster of magic-rich citadels, whose inhabitants apparently left the world through Spelljamming. Have any newer lore been published that confirms those tales, and that says of which elven realms those citadels were part? And I've also noted that the name of the temple of Solonor the Archer God in Evereska is "Moondark Hill". Is there any connections between those places that you know about?
EDIT: clarifications |
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| cpthero2 |
Posted - 06 Oct 2018 : 22:38:58
Master Krashos,
Thank you kindly good sir!
Best regards,
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Originally posted by George Krashos
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Originally posted by cpthero2
Master Krashos,
Is there a link to that Moondark Mountains article?
Best regards,
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Ed wrote up information on the Moondark Mountains in one of his “Forging the Realms” web articles.
— George Krashos
You'll find it here:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4xxJUcFFKFXS1VESjl6cFUwMUk&usp=sharing
-- George Krashos
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| George Krashos |
Posted - 06 Oct 2018 : 19:12:54
quote:
Originally posted by cpthero2
Master Krashos,
Is there a link to that Moondark Mountains article?
Best regards,
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
Ed wrote up information on the Moondark Mountains in one of his “Forging the Realms” web articles.
— George Krashos
You'll find it here:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4xxJUcFFKFXS1VESjl6cFUwMUk&usp=sharing
-- George Krashos |
| cpthero2 |
Posted - 06 Oct 2018 : 14:34:43
Master Krashos,
Is there a link to that Moondark Mountains article?
Best regards,
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
Ed wrote up information on the Moondark Mountains in one of his “Forging the Realms” web articles.
— George Krashos
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| George Krashos |
Posted - 29 Aug 2018 : 14:46:46
Ed wrote up information on the Moondark Mountains in one of his “Forging the Realms” web articles.
— George Krashos |
| sleyvas |
Posted - 29 Aug 2018 : 12:14:36
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Originally posted by Cards77
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
Nope, not that I know of.
-- George Krashos
There is now: Talaerlo Moondark is buried beneath "Moondark Hill" in Evereska.
To quote Ed:
Tales also differ as to how Talaerlo Moondark died, but his widow Belaerrauna took his remains (said in some accounts to have been "dragonblasted") to Evereska and buried him beneath Moondark Hill.
She dwelled quietly in Evereska for some years thereafter before being snatched aloft one moonlit night by a great dragon and never seen again.
Some new article or something?? |
| Barastir |
Posted - 29 Aug 2018 : 12:06:34
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Originally posted by George Krashos
(...) Too many different ideas, all not fully-formed. (...)
-- George Krashos
Can you please share some of these ideas? Maybe we can work on them together... |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 27 Aug 2018 : 02:44:29
Hehe, you know as much as I do about the Moondark Mountains and elves. Never went there in any significant details in my North musings, but I can see how I might fit them in going forward. Too many different ideas, all not fully-formed. It's a crazy Realms in my head, that's for sure.
-- George Krashos |
| Cards77 |
Posted - 26 Aug 2018 : 12:28:46
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
quote:
Originally posted by Cards77
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
Nope, not that I know of.
-- George Krashos
There is now: Talaerlo Moondark is buried beneath "Moondark Hill" in Evereska.
To quote Ed:
Tales also differ as to how Talaerlo Moondark died, but his widow Belaerrauna took his remains (said in some accounts to have been "dragonblasted") to Evereska and buried him beneath Moondark Hill.
She dwelled quietly in Evereska for some years thereafter before being snatched aloft one moonlit night by a great dragon and never seen again.
 When I posted that, Ed's Forging the Realms article was months away from being published.
-- George Krashos
I know  Wasn't a jab at you in any way. I just happened to have it open in front of me and thought I would provide.
I'm still very interested in any details on Moondark either published or not.
I'm preparing to take a solo character there in his search for the sister stone to his kiira.
Please drop me a line if you would?  |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 26 Aug 2018 : 05:02:32
quote:
Originally posted by Cards77
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
Nope, not that I know of.
-- George Krashos
There is now: Talaerlo Moondark is buried beneath "Moondark Hill" in Evereska.
To quote Ed:
Tales also differ as to how Talaerlo Moondark died, but his widow Belaerrauna took his remains (said in some accounts to have been "dragonblasted") to Evereska and buried him beneath Moondark Hill.
She dwelled quietly in Evereska for some years thereafter before being snatched aloft one moonlit night by a great dragon and never seen again.
When I posted that, Ed's Forging the Realms article was months away from being published.
-- George Krashos |
| Cards77 |
Posted - 26 Aug 2018 : 02:30:59
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
Nope, not that I know of.
-- George Krashos
There is now: Talaerlo Moondark is buried beneath "Moondark Hill" in Evereska.
To quote Ed:
Tales also differ as to how Talaerlo Moondark died, but his widow Belaerrauna took his remains (said in some accounts to have been "dragonblasted") to Evereska and buried him beneath Moondark Hill.
She dwelled quietly in Evereska for some years thereafter before being snatched aloft one moonlit night by a great dragon and never seen again.
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| sleyvas |
Posted - 07 Feb 2018 : 01:50:32
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Originally posted by George Krashos
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Originally posted by Lord Karsus
-I think I'm the only fan of the Deep Imaskari (pre-4e anyway).
I'm a fan, just not a fan of the massive Far Realm influence on Imaskar.
-- George Krashos
I do like the concept though that many Imaskari were warlocks though. Maybe that gave them the idea that pact magic and divine magic were similar concepts, and that warlock patrons and gods were also similar. I agree though, I'd rather fiendish pacts for them over far realms ones. In fact, though I can never find it, so I can't recall where it came from, I know in some of the early lore it said that the Imaskari had dealings with devils and a lot of their magic and magic items carried curses. |
| Barastir |
Posted - 06 Feb 2018 : 10:59:32
Never noticed it, gotta check it out. Thank you very, very much!quote:
Originally posted by MayNovember
Under Greycloak hills is a portal to Ravenloft (...)
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| Barastir |
Posted - 06 Feb 2018 : 10:58:36
Got it, thanks!
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Originally posted by MayNovember
Also all the Forging Realms series (If you want to see Moondark Mystery) can be found in Delwa's google drive (...)
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| Lord Karsus |
Posted - 04 Feb 2018 : 02:27:09
-Darkvision was a weeeiiiird novel. Wasn't so much Far Realms as...I dunno, but that might've been the writing on the wall concerning the "slightly out of place" stuff that was coming. |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 03 Feb 2018 : 23:21:08
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Karsus
-I think I'm the only fan of the Deep Imaskari (pre-4e anyway).
I'm a fan, just not a fan of the massive Far Realm influence on Imaskar.
-- George Krashos |
| Lord Karsus |
Posted - 03 Feb 2018 : 20:26:22
-I think I'm the only fan of the Deep Imaskari (pre-4e anyway). |
| Markustay |
Posted - 02 Feb 2018 : 08:10:47
Deep Netheril?  |
| MayNovember |
Posted - 31 Jan 2018 : 14:27:02
Also all the Forging Realms series (If you want to see Moondark Mystery) can be found in Delwa's google drive : https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4xxJUcFFKFXS1VESjl6cFUwMUk&usp=sharing |
| MayNovember |
Posted - 31 Jan 2018 : 13:44:34
Under Greycloak hills is a portal to Ravenloft - It's spoken of in the 2E Ravenloft Campaign set. That is what the elves guard. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 14 Sep 2017 : 13:57:04
They may not be guarding as much as containing. |
| TBeholder |
Posted - 14 Sep 2017 : 11:13:49
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Originally posted by dazzlerdal
Elves couldnt be guarding any of those things though and im pretty sure what is under there is really really really really old
Elves at very least guard those tombs.
From anything that may come from below, among the other possibilities.
Though maybe used an opportunity to hide a few nastier artefacts around, too. If they had to store something useful and wholesome, they'd probably do it inside the nearby mythal. |
| sleyvas |
Posted - 14 Sep 2017 : 02:13:48
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
There isn't a connection. Ed has told me what's under the Greycloak Hills and it's not ancient elves.
-- George Krashos
Its the infamous Grey Cloak!!!!! Dun Duh Dun!!!
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| Gary Dallison |
Posted - 13 Sep 2017 : 17:57:30
Elves couldnt be guarding any of those things though and im pretty sure what is under there is really really really really old |
| TBeholder |
Posted - 13 Sep 2017 : 16:12:19
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Originally posted by dazzlerdal
I wish I could "persuade" you or Ed to give me the knowledge of what is under the Greycloak Hills.
[...]
Any clues on where we might find information to puzzle out what is under there?
In short, outskirts of a smouldering war zone in Underdark.
Immediately (per Return of the Archwizards) to the East is the Sharn Wall - Phaerimm themselves can't walk out (until RotA), but...
Uncomfortably close at North-West are Greypeak Mts. More or less on top of former Ammarindar, and after the dwarves were gone those tunnels are still inhabited and contested.
Below these mountains: a known beholder hive.
West of the mountains: Ched Nasad (middledark - drow, after its fall also shadow half-dragons).
East of the mountains: ruins of Mines of Dekanter, where "Beast Lord" (an illitilich) musters an army (mostly goblins and gargoyles) to conquer the nearby caverns, and also fights Harpers, presumably because they interfere with its attempts to gather more thralls.
North of the mountains: Yathclol (middledark - chitines). Farther North: ruins of Hellgate Keep (upperdark/surface). North of that: orc caverns of Nether Mts.
Both minions of Phaerimm and fiends (and tieflings) of Hellgate Keep repeatedly wander far enough to have border skirmishes with Ched Nasad...
Yeah, looks like a fun place. |
| Gary Dallison |
Posted - 13 Sep 2017 : 08:33:25
I wish I could "persuade" you or Ed to give me the knowledge of what is under the Greycloak Hills.
Now when is the next GenCon (and a bumper paycheck so I can afford to go) so I can begin planning my scheme to kidnap and hypnotise people into divulging all the realmslore they keep locked in their head.
If it isn't ancient elves then that rules out Vyshaan (although that's already been done).
Any clues on where we might find information to puzzle out what is under there? |
| George Krashos |
Posted - 13 Sep 2017 : 05:20:52
There isn't a connection. Ed has told me what's under the Greycloak Hills and it's not ancient elves.
-- George Krashos |
| Markustay |
Posted - 13 Sep 2017 : 00:21:00
Hypothesis:
Not directly related, but when I was (re)doing the map of Evereska for Eric Boyd it made me start to think about something that always troubled me about the place in the back of my mind. I don't really like thinking about elves (they're not my 'cup of tea'), so the only time something nags at me like that is when its geography related, and in this case, we have a group of elves living in mountains. Taint natural, I tell ya!
Now, as I've just said, I never put any thought into it - it was more like a 'an itch I couldn't scratch', but now you've mentioned spelljamming elves, and a lightbulb went off in my head. I think those 'mountains' are of the same nature as the Star Mounts... they are not of this world. Those elves are sitting on top of something, perhaps guarding it (and they may have even 'arrived' with it).
And its called 'Moondark' Hill. It doesn't really get any better than that.  |
| TBeholder |
Posted - 12 Sep 2017 : 21:59:56
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Originally posted by Barastir
Are there any news about this issue?
The only big news since then was "The Moondark Mystery" article in Forging the Realms series (lost, but see here).
Short version: that's where Moondark himself was buried, but it happened so long ago that the local elves forgot this.
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Besides, could the Moondark Mountains be the ruins linked to the Dracorage Mythal?
Amusing, but unlikely. I mean, what would be the sequence of events? |
| Brimstone |
Posted - 12 Sep 2017 : 16:55:07
What page is that on btw? |
| sleyvas |
Posted - 08 Sep 2017 : 13:01:07
I'm inclined to go another path. One of the things I've posited is that the "elves" on the surface of the moon are actually the "ellefolk" or a group of the fey that escaped the "Plane of Shadow", but not the ones that were entrapped in Ravenloft and took on the racial name of "Arak" after the person that helped them escape. These moondark mountains might be where these "ellefolk" tried to establish a surface world community before retreating back to the moon. It would explain their spelljamming links quite easily (though that's not hard to do with regular elves either). |
