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| The Defence Minister |
Posted - 25 Nov 2002 : 19:44:08
If you could put together a party of five from all the available characters in the BG1&2 computer games who would they be?
For me I'd have:
Yeslick
Mazzy
Kivan
Anoman
Tiax
What about you?
TDM
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| William of Waterdeep |
Posted - 12 Sep 2003 : 06:33:05
Myself-Male Human thief lvl 11 dueled to fighter22
Mazzy
Viconia
Nalia
Korgan
Jaheira
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| Echon |
Posted - 02 Dec 2002 : 19:15:55
quote:
Originally posted by Kitira Gildragon
**Echon: I'll give you that Viconia's good. If I wasn't trying to get a 20 rep, she would have been one of my first choices . It's kind of a pity... Maybe next time I'll just become a villain (did I spell that right?) and use her. Good choice, man, good choice.
Go got it! I always have more fun with the evil NPCs. The only evil NPC in both BG I & II that I do not like is Eldoth Kron, although I had to keep him at one point because I needed Skie.
Villain is spelled correctly.
-Echon |
| The Defence Minister |
Posted - 02 Dec 2002 : 17:43:12
OK then, I'll take this to the public vote!!!
TDM |
| Kitira Gildragon |
Posted - 02 Dec 2002 : 16:52:14
**Mumadar Ibn Huzal: 1)Go for it. I'll make sure to get rid of the TURKEY first.
**Echon: I'll give you that Viconia's good. If I wasn't trying to get a 20 rep, she would have been one of my first choices. It's kind of a pity... Maybe next time I'll just become a villain (did I spell that right?) and use her. Good choice, man, good choice. |
| Echon |
Posted - 02 Dec 2002 : 16:16:06
quote:
Originally posted by Kitira Gildragon
Branwen can charge into battle with platemail and do just as much damage as a warrior.
That is not true. Fighters have a better THAC0, more attacks per round and often a strength bonus.
I do agree with you on one point - Yeslick sucks (a lot of things that shall go unmentioned here.) But neither would I choose Branwen. I have played through BG I with every NPC and the only compensation about the two are their special abilities - though Branwen's tend to get useless at higher levels when she gets permanent magical weapons. Yeslick also suffers from the fact that he cannot join the party until Chapter 5. His free Dispel Magic is quite nice, though. The spell is omnipotent in BG I.
I always go for Viconia. She is exotic, effective and, compared to Yeslic's pathetic 7 and Branwen's 10, she is intelligent (14).
Besides, she helps keeping the reputation low.
-Echon |
| Mumadar Ibn Huzal |
Posted - 02 Dec 2002 : 15:24:55
Tsk, tsk, tsk... Kiti... now that's not nice behavior. It's only a computer game  Now if I want to be nasty, I just might introduce Yeslik into the Silver Marches game... He might find himself in a certain area of the High Forest with those wands of his... 
ps: did I mention his draconic turkey familiar yet... |
| Kitira Gildragon |
Posted - 02 Dec 2002 : 14:37:03
Why bother buying her? Just get a scroll from the church (Stone to Flesh) and do it? The money goes to a 'better' organisation. Besides, you use three wands of the heavens? So he can't actually _do_ anything without wands. What a flippin wuss. I think Branwen had 1 ever and she still could fight without alot of spells. Your guy is a pushover. One of the best parts of clerics is that they are not totaly dependant on spells (ie, mage) Branwen can charge into battle with platemail and do just as much damage as a warrior. The spells are really optional, and the undead turning is a help. You can't even use your little priest (who I use as my cook/butler/stableboy/floorcleaner) to his max potential. Instead, all he does is cast. TDM, I'm telling you now- This is your last chance. Quit ragging on Branwen cuz Imma turn into the GLOD&D and wreck you. Go find another character to dis, cuz your little wannabe Yeslick can't do nuttin. |
| The Defence Minister |
Posted - 29 Nov 2002 : 19:04:52
quote:
Originally posted by Kitira Gildragon
Now, if you'll refrain from insulting my characters...
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I'd rather continue
Yeslick is MAGNIFICANT. Stick three 'wands of the heavans' in his quickslots and charge him into batter firing them and he is undefeatable. And if he does take any damage he can heal himself up straight afterwards.
Also, getting him is more of a challenge. You have to fight you way through the mines rather than buy him of a dodgy Gnome
TDM
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| Mumadar Ibn Huzal |
Posted - 29 Nov 2002 : 09:09:06
quote:
Originally posted by The Defence Minister
So which exact characters do you think are best in each field?
TDM
IIRC the only game NPCs I used were Kivan (elf ranger) and Minsk, though often I would get rid of Minsc as his hamster does take up inventory space Other then that I used a custom build party. |
| Kitira Gildragon |
Posted - 28 Nov 2002 : 22:46:36
Hah! Like hell he does. Branwen doesn't have to be a fighter to wipe the floor with your guts- she has 2 advantages over him.1) she's solid cleric and doesn't have to dual class in order to kick arse. 2) She's a woman. She could make Yeslick scrub the floors with his tongue and make him beg to do it again. I know I would do much MUCH worse and love every minute of it. Now, if you'll refrain from insulting my characters...
BTW- Using Minsc and Garrick in BG1, (both at level 5) I managed to pick off Sarevok w/o him attacking. *smug* Snipah! |
| The Defence Minister |
Posted - 28 Nov 2002 : 22:17:50
Those early spells are great in D&D RPGs but crap in the PC games.
As you get to level 3 they start getting better with the Flame Arrow and Fireball.
And yes, Horrid Wilting KICKS ARSE.
PS: Yeslick's clerical abilities wipe the floor with Branwen plus he's a fantastic fighter as well. No wonder he's my favourite chracter
TDM |
| Kitira Gildragon |
Posted - 28 Nov 2002 : 20:17:50
quote:
Originally posted by The Defence Minister
I hate Branwen for her accent
TDM
To TDM: thou hast insulted me! Draw steel, foolish one.Hehehehe. Branwen was awesome, so you'll just have to deal with it. Trust me, the accent might have been annoying, but she save m'arse in Candlekeep. Xzar is a moron, and the only good thing montaron does is scream. Khalid runs like a little pansy.. (hmmm, that's why I always get him killed by the witch in Beregost)
TDM has a point- alot of the spells are horrible. I've actually (when I first started, so don't laugh) knocked my own people unconsious in the Nashkel Mine with color spray. the only spell i always use is magic missle. In BG2, I'm a huge fan of the Horrid Wilting.  it normally kills all other mages in the area w/ a 1 hit kill... always fun for a ranger like m'self. |
| The Defence Minister |
Posted - 27 Nov 2002 : 19:42:54
Yeah like the four damage Chromatic Orb does is any good (without a hope in hell of paralising anyone below level 3).
Blindness is useless because anyone who is going to live long enough for it to matter gets a save.
What good is making someone your ally when you want to kill them. Besides, there are lots of magic items which can do Dire Charm.
TDM |
| Echon |
Posted - 27 Nov 2002 : 19:33:21
quote:
Originally posted by The Defence Minister
They are all crap. They are only effective to the lower level enemies who are easy to defeat.
Apart from Magic Missiles, I only like Wizards level 10 or above.
TDM
That is only true for sleep and colour spray. The others do not depend on level.
-Echon |
| The Defence Minister |
Posted - 27 Nov 2002 : 19:28:21
quote:
Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal
BG1 + expansion to me was more a game for min-maxing then roleplaying, and that's what I've tried to set out to do... a long time ago
For me the most effective party was the main character as a paladin (loads of special attributes) and two or three characters very proficient with the longbow (rangers or fighters), a cleric for some curing and protective spells and a wizard or rogue/wizard for a little magical firepower or protection (dispel magic & magic missile mostly)
So which exact characters do you think are best in each field?
TDM |
| Mumadar Ibn Huzal |
Posted - 27 Nov 2002 : 18:50:40
BG1 + expansion to me was more a game for min-maxing then roleplaying, and that's what I've tried to set out to do... a long time ago
For me the most effective party was the main character as a paladin (loads of special attributes) and two or three characters very proficient with the longbow (rangers or fighters), a cleric for some curing and protective spells and a wizard or rogue/wizard for a little magical firepower or protection (dispel magic & magic missile mostly) |
| The Defence Minister |
Posted - 27 Nov 2002 : 18:44:03
quote:
Originally posted by Echon
quote:
Originally posted by The Defence Minister
I my self am a Bard and Tiax is half a Thief so all and all I have enough rogues. Until they attain a decent level Wizards just get in the way .
TDM
I think you are underestimating spells such as Blindness, Charm Person, Sleep, Chromatic Orb and Colour Spray just a wee bit.
-Echon
They are all crap. They are only effective to the lower level enemies who are easy to defeat.
Apart from Magic Missiles, I only like Wizards level 10 or above.
TDM |
| Echon |
Posted - 27 Nov 2002 : 17:24:28
By the way, I will never forgive BioWare for their cruel treatment of Xzar and Montaron in Shadows of Amn. I usually do the quest just to kill the Harper assassin.
-Echon |
| Echon |
Posted - 27 Nov 2002 : 17:21:13
quote:
Originally posted by The Defence Minister
I meant to do one containing your favs from both games, sorry if I didn't make this clear.
TDM
Well, in that case it would have to be:
Echon (dual-class Fighter/Mage)
Viconia (great romance by the way)
Edwin (best mage ever)
Corgan
Sarevok
Montaron
The reason for this combination is not only battle provess but personalities as well.
Viconia: who can withstand her charms?
Edwin: the Edwin(a)-and-the-Nether-Scoll-case is just hilarious
Corgan: his calm and relaxed attitude towards brutal blodshedding is great
Sarevok: a very interesting person. very intelligent. it is clear that he contains many conflicts
Montaron: an evil halfling. enough said.
-Echon |
| Echon |
Posted - 27 Nov 2002 : 17:13:33
quote:
Originally posted by The Defence Minister
I my self am a Bard and Tiax is half a Thief so all and all I have enough rogues. Until they attain a decent level Wizards just get in the way .
TDM
I think you are underestimating spells such as Blindness, Charm Person, Sleep, Chromatic Orb and Colour Spray just a wee bit.
-Echon |
| The Defence Minister |
Posted - 26 Nov 2002 : 17:38:53
I hate Branwen for her accent
TDM |
| Kitira Gildragon |
Posted - 26 Nov 2002 : 17:13:41
For me:
Lady Kiti D'Aleshan(Me, as a wild mage)
Mazzy
Branwen
Minsc
Keldorn(well, when he didn't have that "holier-than-thou" attitude)
Haerdalis
Jahiera and Aerie would be in my party if I was playing my normal ranger character and I didn't have Branwen, but they start bickering and Aerie's a pushover (it's just fun to listen to Haerdalis... um, speak with her )
Note: if you're gonna do a mage combo, do a mage thief. You'll expect them to be weak, but you can cast invisibility and do a backstab even if you can't hide in shadows. Not only that, but they gain the higher hit points of the thief. |
| The Defence Minister |
Posted - 26 Nov 2002 : 16:53:46
quote:
Originally posted by Echon
BG I:
Me: Elven Fighter/Thief (Drizzt's Mithril +4, Twinkle +5, Shield +1, Helm & Cloak of Balduran)
Kagain: Dwarven Fighter (Full Plate, Battle Axe +2, Ring of Pro. +2, Shield +2)
Shar-Teel: Human Female Fighter (Full Plate, Two-handed +3, Heavy Cross. +3)
Viconia: Drow Elf Female Cleric (Full Plate, Gauntlets of Ogre Power, Warhammer +2, Shield +1, Ring of Holiness, Cloak of Pro. +2)
Edwin: Human Conjurer (Ring of Wizardry)
Xzar: Human Necromancer (Robe of the Evil Archmagi, Ring of Wizardry)
BG II: (too many magical items to bother to mention them)
Me: Human Fighter 13 / Mage
Corgan: Dwarven Berskerker
Viconia: Drow Elf Female Cleric
Edwin: Human Conjurer
Sarevok: Human Fighter 18 / Thief
-Echon
I meant to do one containing your favs from both games, sorry if I didn't make this clear.
TDM |
| The Defence Minister |
Posted - 26 Nov 2002 : 16:52:01
quote:
Originally posted by Echon
quote:
Originally posted by The Defence Minister
If you could put together a party of five from all the available characters in the BG1&2 computer games who would they be?
For me I'd have:
Yeslick
Mazzy
Kivan
Anoman
Tiax
What about you?
TDM
You don't like wizards or rogues, do you?
I my self am a Bard and Tiax is half a Thief so all and all I have enough rogues. Until they attain a decent level Wizards just get in the way .
TDM |
| Echon |
Posted - 26 Nov 2002 : 09:05:05
BG I:
Me: Elven Fighter/Thief (Drizzt's Mithril +4, Twinkle +5, Shield +1, Helm & Cloak of Balduran)
Kagain: Dwarven Fighter (Full Plate, Battle Axe +2, Ring of Pro. +2, Shield +2)
Shar-Teel: Human Female Fighter (Full Plate, Two-handed +3, Heavy Cross. +3)
Viconia: Drow Elf Female Cleric (Full Plate, Gauntlets of Ogre Power, Warhammer +2, Shield +1, Ring of Holiness, Cloak of Pro. +2)
Edwin: Human Conjurer (Ring of Wizardry)
Xzar: Human Necromancer (Robe of the Evil Archmagi, Ring of Wizardry)
BG II: (too many magical items to bother to mention them)
Me: Human Fighter 13 / Mage
Corgan: Dwarven Berskerker
Viconia: Drow Elf Female Cleric
Edwin: Human Conjurer
Sarevok: Human Fighter 18 / Thief
-Echon |
| Echon |
Posted - 26 Nov 2002 : 08:57:20
quote:
Originally posted by The Defence Minister
If you could put together a party of five from all the available characters in the BG1&2 computer games who would they be?
For me I'd have:
Yeslick
Mazzy
Kivan
Anoman
Tiax
What about you?
TDM
You don't like wizards or rogues, do you? |
