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| Caolin |
Posted - 12 Aug 2013 : 18:21:34 I was surprised to find that my Kindle version of the Companions was missing this map everyone is talking about. Is there a link to an image of it somewhere? |
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| SirUrza |
Posted - 18 Aug 2013 : 17:50:23 Added it in, looks like it belonged there. :) |
| SirUrza |
Posted - 17 Aug 2013 : 23:34:43 quote: Originally posted by Brimstone
http://mikeschley.deviantart.com/art/Map-of-Faerun-392930278
Very nice, thankyou!
*cracks knuckles*
Now it's time to edit my ebook version to include the map. ;) |
| Plaguescarred |
Posted - 15 Aug 2013 : 23:55:05 James Wyatt confirmed that The Companions map was not the new 5E Realms map yet;
@Plaguescarred Kickass map in The Companions for a novel add on! Is that the new 5E Realms map? @aquelajames it is not the Realms post-Sundering. Not yet. @schley My mistake. Sorry folks! |
| Plaguescarred |
Posted - 15 Aug 2013 : 14:38:06 Artist Mike Schley told confirmed on Twitter that The Companions map was the new 5E Realms map;
@Plaguescarred Kickass map in The Companions for a novel add on! Is that the new 5E Realms map? @schley Thanks! Yup, albeit a bit of a simplified version. Hoping to work on a bigger & more detailed one in color soon. @Plaguescarred Why is Akanul still in there if Abeir and Toril are seperated again by the Sundering? Im confused. @schley It's ruins remain. @Plaguescarred Ha i see thanks! I hope you get to make a bigger one in color too Mike!! |
| Therise |
Posted - 14 Aug 2013 : 18:07:58 quote: Originally posted by Caolin
OK, maybe "forgotten" was too strong a word. But it seems that print isn't your default reading format any more. You have actually shifted books to decoration rather than entertainment. But I still find this who discussion fascinating.
I agree it's a fascinating shift, though I think people make (or don't make) the transition for a large variety of reasons.
With my hard-back books, they're definitely more than decoration, as I have quite a lot of reference and professional books that are hard-back that I use and read daily. But I prefer to have as little clutter as possible and also to make my environment beautiful (probably a girl thing).
When I transitioned away from VCR tapes to CDs and DvDs, it instantly opened up a lot of space for other nice things. Same with paperback books. I think the transition for me was easier because I really love (and work with) technology, and in college and graduate school things like photocopied research papers can very quickly pile up. When I shifted to PDFs and even further changed my DVDs and CDs into digital format, I felt like I could breathe in my office again.
And the same thing with my home. Research papers and paperbacks were everywhere while I was in college. But now, I have more room for art, really nice chairs, and I can put things on my tables again. Going digital required an adjustment over time, but it's been definitely worth it in many ways. 
And the sheer convenience of being able to quickly find things, added to the ability of keyword searching, has been brilliant.
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| Caolin |
Posted - 14 Aug 2013 : 17:48:11 quote: Originally posted by Therise
quote: Originally posted by Caolin
It's actually quite fascinating the sharp divide that exists on this topic. You either have bought into the new technology and have forgotten print. Or you love print and are dismissive of eBooks. I wish I were a sociology major because this would make a great thesis project.
I wouldn't say that I've forgotten print books. There's always a place for beautiful, leather-bound hard-back books in my home. But when it comes to paperbacks, I see those more as clutter.
OK, maybe "forgotten" was too strong a word. But it seems that print isn't your default reading format any more. You have actually shifted books to decoration rather than entertainment. But I still find this who discussion fascinating. |
| Therise |
Posted - 14 Aug 2013 : 17:26:49 quote: Originally posted by Caolin
It's actually quite fascinating the sharp divide that exists on this topic. You either have bought into the new technology and have forgotten print. Or you love print and are dismissive of eBooks. I wish I were a sociology major because this would make a great thesis project.
I wouldn't say that I've forgotten print books. There's always a place for beautiful, leather-bound hard-back books in my home. But when it comes to paperbacks, I see those more as clutter.
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| skychrome |
Posted - 14 Aug 2013 : 17:01:32 It's a shame the Companions eBook does not have the map. And honestly I do not see any good reason for that. Also it is not true that FR eBooks in general have no maps. Shadowbane eBook for instance has and if I made the effort to check some more, then there'd probably be more.
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| Bakra |
Posted - 14 Aug 2013 : 14:11:12 quote: Originally posted by Caolin
It's actually quite fascinating the sharp divide that exists on this topic. You either have bought into the new technology and have forgotten print. Or you love print and are dismissive of eBooks. I wish I were a sociology major because this would make a great thesis project.
Woah, hold on a second. I haven't forgotten print. When it comes to my collection I will lean towards e-book's. But my offspring's it will be print & e-book version (Specifically the interactive ones)
As for my wife, she reads and purchases both versions too. |
| Madpig |
Posted - 14 Aug 2013 : 08:05:53 For me buying ebooks is only easy way to go. I could order my books online, but that takes forever. Practically only RAS books are published in my country. And cost is staggering. One book costs around 29,90€ = 40$, cause they mainly publish hardcovers. And i think 40$ is way too much for one book. |
| Yoss |
Posted - 14 Aug 2013 : 07:35:15 Seems like every fifth or so thread I read here is a ebooks vs printed books debate. I've added my two cents a few times before, but I've grown to consider comvienince the biggest selling point for me now. I work nights, so Monday into Tuesday when a new book comes out, it saves me the trip of backtracking 15 miles to the store after I get out of work. I just go home and download it, and can start reading before the store is even open. |
| Caolin |
Posted - 13 Aug 2013 : 23:03:42 It's actually quite fascinating the sharp divide that exists on this topic. You either have bought into the new technology and have forgotten print. Or you love print and are dismissive of eBooks. I wish I were a sociology major because this would make a great thesis project. |
| BEAST |
Posted - 13 Aug 2013 : 22:40:07 I have a 17" screen, and that map is hard for me to read online. I'd rather check it out in hard copy.
I prefer hardcopies, with ebook backups for research purposes. Hardcover books just feel more substantial, and that is emotionally more satisfying.
E-books are more practical, but less fulfilling. Reads great; less filling!  |
| swifty |
Posted - 13 Aug 2013 : 22:15:54 quote: Originally posted by Therise
quote: Originally posted by swifty
Its beyond me why anyone would buy the eBook if the print version is available.
Once you've read a regular print book, it becomes clutter. Print books take up space, get yellowed pages with age, and have to be dusted if you keep them on a shelf. They also can't be searched quickly with a "find keyword" search if you're looking for a particular bit of content.
Thousands of E-books can be downloaded to a single, small device that can be taken anywhere. If you're on a trip away from home, or even on the train or bus, your entire library is available.
There are also conversion engines like Calibre that can easily convert from one industry standard to another. I might buy something that's only available on kindle but convert it for reading on my phone.
Additionally, many libraries now let you "check out" e-books for a limited period of time. I've done this often with Realms books, as well as others.
yellowed pages are a bad thing?the smell and look of old books is why I love them. |
| Caolin |
Posted - 13 Aug 2013 : 20:59:59 quote: Originally posted by Mirtek
quote: Originally posted by Therise Once you've read a regular print book, it becomes clutter.
No, decoration.
Anyway, it's pretty disappointing since one of their claims used to sweeten the ebook thing was how much easier it would be for them to put extras into the ebooks and now the ebooks actually have less than the print books? 
I've heard some scuttlebutt that this might have something to do with Salvatore. But one release isn't a trend. The Shadowbane books did a good job of including extra content and that was just scratching the surface of what is possible. We'll see how the next few novels go. Hopefully they'll get their act together. |
| Mirtek |
Posted - 13 Aug 2013 : 20:45:49 quote: Originally posted by Therise Once you've read a regular print book, it becomes clutter.
No, decoration.
Anyway, it's pretty disappointing since one of their claims used to sweeten the ebook thing was how much easier it would be for them to put extras into the ebooks and now the ebooks actually have less than the print books?  |
| Therise |
Posted - 13 Aug 2013 : 17:46:29 quote: Originally posted by swifty
Its beyond me why anyone would buy the eBook if the print version is available.
Once you've read a regular print book, it becomes clutter. Print books take up space, get yellowed pages with age, and have to be dusted if you keep them on a shelf. They also can't be searched quickly with a "find keyword" search if you're looking for a particular bit of content.
Thousands of E-books can be downloaded to a single, small device that can be taken anywhere. If you're on a trip away from home, or even on the train or bus, your entire library is available.
There are also conversion engines like Calibre that can easily convert from one industry standard to another. I might buy something that's only available on kindle but convert it for reading on my phone.
Additionally, many libraries now let you "check out" e-books for a limited period of time. I've done this often with Realms books, as well as others.
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| Caolin |
Posted - 13 Aug 2013 : 17:40:30 quote: Originally posted by Brimstone
http://mikeschley.deviantart.com/art/Map-of-Faerun-392930278
Thanks!
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| Brimstone |
Posted - 13 Aug 2013 : 16:20:39 http://mikeschley.deviantart.com/art/Map-of-Faerun-392930278 |
| Bakra |
Posted - 13 Aug 2013 : 15:47:28 quote: Originally posted by swifty
Its beyond me why anyone would buy the eBook if the print version is available.
Growing family = less space. Annnnnd I can't enlarge the text in a printed book. |
| SirUrza |
Posted - 13 Aug 2013 : 06:20:34 I'm not a fan of the disparity either.. particularly when they often charge more for the ebook when the hardcover is only available then lower the price when the paperback comes out. |
| Caolin |
Posted - 13 Aug 2013 : 04:30:34 quote: Originally posted by swifty
Its beyond me why anyone would buy the eBook if the print version is available.
Because I can't stand print books. I love....LOVE eBooks and I will never ever read another print book if I can help it. Why you may ask? Convenience. I can carry a full library of novels in my backpack or in my hand. I also have the full weight of the web right there when I need to look up a word definition or learn about a location or individual I haven't heard of. The nostalgia of books means nothing to me. It's the stories that matter and if I can get those stories in a much more convenient format all the better. |
| swifty |
Posted - 12 Aug 2013 : 22:08:32 Its beyond me why anyone would buy the eBook if the print version is available. |
| Caolin |
Posted - 12 Aug 2013 : 19:30:10 Considering I paid $9.50 for the eBook I assumed that I would be getting whatever was in the Hardcover. I think I might contact WoTC on this now that I think about it. |
| BEAST |
Posted - 12 Aug 2013 : 19:12:57 I don't know the reason why. But I do know that there has always been a disparity between the contents of the hardcover, paperback, and ebook editions of RAS's works. The first edition of The Legacy had a marvellous black and white side-profile cutaway pic of Mithral Hall (originally from the Forgotten Realms Atlas), but no other version ever has featured that. A lot of the "The Legend of Drizzt" hardcovers had special guest introductions and afterwards consisting of Q&A interview sessions, but none of the other versions have repeated these features.
Maybe the budget is simply really tight for ebooks, so all the extras are omitted?
I'd be curious to learn what kind of extra features are included in the ebook editions of the other authors. Are they similarly hamstrung by this apparently tight ebook budget? |