| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| SirUrza |
Posted - 02 Jan 2008 : 00:21:09
Good stuff. I've finish reading Ed, Elaine, and Bob's stories. Elaine's reminded me how much I like her characters and how much I'm going to miss them. Ed and Bob's stories were their typical goodness, Bob's story surprised me. |
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| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin |
Posted - 01 Feb 2008 : 23:50:57
Indeed, I'm enjoying it myself. I'm on Ed's story. |
| RodOdom |
Posted - 01 Feb 2008 : 22:44:13
I'm halfway through this collection, and it's shaping up to be the best FR anthology I've ever read. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 14 Jan 2008 : 06:04:20
http://ww2.wizards.com/Books/Wizards/Products/default.aspx?doc=216237400 |
| SiCK_Boy |
Posted - 14 Jan 2008 : 03:44:45
Could you post a link, because it's neither in the product listing page nor in the forgotten realms novels page (from the Book section of the wizards' website). |
| ElaineCunningham |
Posted - 14 Jan 2008 : 02:16:03
WotC has now posted info about the anthology. |
| SirUrza |
Posted - 13 Jan 2008 : 18:53:05
Wizard's Product library for 2008 is a mess, on some page 2008 shows up, on others it's only listing up to 2007. I have a feeling this is largely due to D&D Insider redesign.
For novel info I'd suggest o-love.net...
http://o-love.net/realms/fr_books_date.html
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| SiCK_Boy |
Posted - 13 Jan 2008 : 18:37:36
Is there a problem with WotC's "products" page? Because that novel doesn't show up in the list. I almost always used that list to see what was coming up, and was very surprised to learn of a new novel via Candlekeep's forum (combined with the Chapters' website). |
| Theophilus |
Posted - 10 Jan 2008 : 01:02:48
quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
I would like to point out that Byers's story is related to his current trilogy, The Haunted Lands.
True enough, so read Unclean. ;)
Thanks - I have read "Unclean" its the only novel from 2007 that I've read so far! |
| Renzokuken |
Posted - 10 Jan 2008 : 01:01:18
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
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Originally posted by Renzokuken
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
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Originally posted by Renzokuken
It would be nice to see a WotC novel on the bestseller lists other than RAS.
FWIW, anthologies seldom sell as well as novels, so the likelihood of REALMS OF WAR showing up on bestselling lists is . . . optimistic. I would be very pleased if it made the one of the "Media tie-in" sub-lists in LOCUS. These are lists Forgotten Realms novels frequently hit. Anthologies, not so much.
And really anthologies should sell the best. They are a great place to "taste test" the Realms and not put too much time into doing so by reading a 30-40 page short story. Is the only way to view thee LOCUS lists through the aforementioned magazine? Does B&N post their bestsellers anywhere for the public to see? I know currently on Amazon Realms of War is around the 12,000 mark for books. That seems to be fairly high since new WotC novels generally land at around the 18-25,000 mark on Amazon.
Here's a link to the December 2007 page on Locus Magazine Online:
https://www.locusmag.com/2007/Issue12_LocusBestsellers.html
If you can't access this page, go to the Locus home page (www.locusmag.com) and type "bestseller" into the search function. You may pull up notices about encripted pages, but be persistent and the pages will come up.
I haven't visited Locus for a while, and I noted a few changes to the lists. Game-related novels used to be included with Media Tie-ins; now the two are separate. And now that there's a separate catagory for game-related fiction, FR novels have both an advantage and a disadvantage. On the one hand, they have a better chance of appearing on the list; on the other, this underscores the wide-spread belief that game-related fiction belongs in a sub-sub-genre ghetto.
Ah, thank you very much for that website. Those sub-genres of books do seem a little odd. It certainly is a double-edged sword though. Well, let's hope Realms of War shows up! |
| SirUrza |
Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 20:11:21
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
I would like to point out that Byers's story is related to his current trilogy, The Haunted Lands.
True enough, so read Unclean. ;) |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin |
Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 16:22:29
quote:
Originally posted by Theophilus
Thanks SirUrza! I want to get this one for Mr Byer's story anyway!
I would like to point out that Byers's story is related to his current trilogy, The Haunted Lands. |
| ElaineCunningham |
Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 13:54:48
quote:
Originally posted by Renzokuken
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
quote:
Originally posted by Renzokuken
It would be nice to see a WotC novel on the bestseller lists other than RAS.
FWIW, anthologies seldom sell as well as novels, so the likelihood of REALMS OF WAR showing up on bestselling lists is . . . optimistic. I would be very pleased if it made the one of the "Media tie-in" sub-lists in LOCUS. These are lists Forgotten Realms novels frequently hit. Anthologies, not so much.
And really anthologies should sell the best. They are a great place to "taste test" the Realms and not put too much time into doing so by reading a 30-40 page short story. Is the only way to view thee LOCUS lists through the aforementioned magazine? Does B&N post their bestsellers anywhere for the public to see? I know currently on Amazon Realms of War is around the 12,000 mark for books. That seems to be fairly high since new WotC novels generally land at around the 18-25,000 mark on Amazon.
Here's a link to the December 2007 page on Locus Magazine Online:
https://www.locusmag.com/2007/Issue12_LocusBestsellers.html
If you can't access this page, go to the Locus home page (www.locusmag.com) and type "bestseller" into the search function. You may pull up notices about encripted pages, but be persistent and the pages will come up.
I haven't visited Locus for a while, and I noted a few changes to the lists. Game-related novels used to be included with Media Tie-ins; now the two are separate. And now that there's a separate catagory for game-related fiction, FR novels have both an advantage and a disadvantage. On the one hand, they have a better chance of appearing on the list; on the other, this underscores the wide-spread belief that game-related fiction belongs in a sub-sub-genre ghetto. |
| Theophilus |
Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 05:49:43
quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza
quote:
Originally posted by Theophilus
Just a question about this anthology - how many of the stories are related to Mr Kemp's series? i.e. do you have to have read that series to know whats going on in most of the stories?
Don't need to read the series at all. That's been my only objection about the last couple of Realms of books. They tie them into a trilogy for marketing purposes, but in most cases, it has little to do with anything going on in the trilogy.
On that note.. don't read Paul Kemp's story since it's the only one that IS tied in. :)
Thanks SirUrza! I want to get this one for Mr Byer's story anyway! |
| SirUrza |
Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 03:52:09
quote:
Originally posted by Theophilus
Just a question about this anthology - how many of the stories are related to Mr Kemp's series? i.e. do you have to have read that series to know whats going on in most of the stories?
Don't need to read the series at all. That's been my only objection about the last couple of Realms of books. They tie them into a trilogy for marketing purposes, but in most cases, it has little to do with anything going on in the trilogy.
On that note.. don't read Paul Kemp's story since it's the only one that IS tied in. :)
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| SirUrza |
Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 03:49:43
Side note, I didn't get it via a broken street date, for Waldenbooks, Wizards of the Coast books are RARELY listed on our street date sheets. Most of our books come in 1-2 weeks (all magazines come in thursday & friday and go out right away) before their amazon.com date. If it's on the street date list it gets held in the back, if it's not on the list, it goes out right away (in the case of Realms of War and other books.)
Of the Wizards books that have street dates, Margarette & Tracy, Bob Salvatore, and Ed's are the only Wizards novels that have shown up the list. Notably only Ed's hardcover, not his softs get listed. One of the Monster Manuals, 4 or 5, actually showed up on that list, other then that, I don't recall anything else.
For anyone with a Waldenbooks or a Borders Express, you might want to check them out for early books and magazines. ;) |
| Theophilus |
Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 02:36:02
Just a question about this anthology - how many of the stories are related to Mr Kemp's series? i.e. do you have to have read that series to know whats going on in most of the stories?
(I only ask because I've been reading the FR novels in publication date since last year and am still in 1994 on my reading list for FR novels [with a few exceptions, eg "Unclean"]!) |
| Renzokuken |
Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 02:14:30
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
quote:
Originally posted by Renzokuken
It would be nice to see a WotC novel on the bestseller lists other than RAS.
FWIW, anthologies seldom sell as well as novels, so the likelihood of REALMS OF WAR showing up on bestselling lists is . . . optimistic. I would be very pleased if it made the one of the "Media tie-in" sub-lists in LOCUS. These are lists Forgotten Realms novels frequently hit. Anthologies, not so much.
And really anthologies should sell the best. They are a great place to "taste test" the Realms and not put too much time into doing so by reading a 30-40 page short story. Is the only way to view thee LOCUS lists through the aforementioned magazine? Does B&N post their bestsellers anywhere for the public to see? I know currently on Amazon Realms of War is around the 12,000 mark for books. That seems to be fairly high since new WotC novels generally land at around the 18-25,000 mark on Amazon. |
| ElaineCunningham |
Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 01:55:16
quote:
Originally posted by Renzokuken
It would be nice to see a WotC novel on the bestseller lists other than RAS.
FWIW, anthologies seldom sell as well as novels, so the likelihood of REALMS OF WAR showing up on bestselling lists is . . . optimistic. I would be very pleased if it made the one of the "Media tie-in" sub-lists in LOCUS. These are lists Forgotten Realms novels frequently hit. Anthologies, not so much. |
| KnightErrantJR |
Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 01:10:38
Picked it up at my local Borders today at lunch. Hopefully I'll get back on track with my reading now . . . |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin |
Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 01:05:09
Well, I just picked up Realms of War today at Barnes and Noble. I will crack it open tonight, or tomorrow. |
| Renzokuken |
Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 00:41:37
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'd love to pick it up this week, but my local B&N never gets new WotC fiction until a week or two later, at the earliest. 
There's a Books-A-Million that's not nearly as convenient as B&N, but I've never liked that chain (not since I went into one and discovered I had a better selection of fantasy than they did!  ), and only go there when I have no choice.
My Barnes and Borders are even worse.... sometimes I don't see FR novels until a month later then the street dates! Unless, oddly, they are hardbacks..... or novels by Ed and RAS. :) But there's no surprise for the reason why those two authors have their put shelved before other authors.... :)
Yeah, Barnes and Nobles never has WotC novels near their release dates. However, the local Borders tend to get them later in the week. I really do need to go pick up Realms of War though. It would be nice to see a WotC novel on the bestseller lists other than RAS. |
| SheriffJoe |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 18:24:50
I ordered mine from Amazon this morning. So it is on the way! |
| Kuje |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 16:35:41
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'd love to pick it up this week, but my local B&N never gets new WotC fiction until a week or two later, at the earliest.
There's a Books-A-Million that's not nearly as convenient as B&N, but I've never liked that chain (not since I went into one and discovered I had a better selection of fantasy than they did! ), and only go there when I have no choice.
My Barnes and Borders are even worse.... sometimes I don't see FR novels until a month later then the street dates! Unless, oddly, they are hardbacks..... or novels by Ed and RAS. :) But there's no surprise for the reason why those two authors have their put shelved before other authors.... :) |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 15:33:45
quote:
Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
It isn't impossible or even unlikely to find a book on the shelves before its release date, but I'd say your chances are better now.
Seriously, I looked in several different bookstores over the weekend for this book. I hope to have it in my hands today. |
| ElaineCunningham |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 15:19:47
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
OK, NOW I plan to pick up this book. I had no luck searching for it last weekend, though.
It isn't impossible or even unlikely to find a book on the shelves before its release date, but I'd say your chances are better now.
Some booksellers put the books on the shelves when they receive them, regardless of street date--unless, of course, they are constrained from doing so, as in the case of the Harry Potter books. And some booksellers leave the boxes in the back until they get around to unpacking them, which is one reason why a (non-Christmas) book release in late November and early December is not ideal. I sometimes wonder what impact these early birds and the booksellers who order late and stock the shelves later have on sales of midlist books. |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 14:52:36
OK, NOW I plan to pick up this book. I had no luck searching for it last weekend, though. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 14:38:38
I prolly should do that... I may be going by there on Thursday, so I'll have to see about ordering it, if it's not yet in. |
| ElaineCunningham |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 13:58:03
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'd love to pick it up this week, but my local B&N never gets new WotC fiction until a week or two later, at the earliest.
There's a Books-A-Million that's not nearly as convenient as B&N, but I've never liked that chain (not since I went into one and discovered I had a better selection of fantasy than they did! ), and only go there when I have no choice.
Have you considered asking the B&N to preorder FR books for you? This is good for the Realms in several ways: preorder numbers may have some impact on print runs, booksellers who order books for specific customers may also order copies for the store, and sales in the first week or two of release increase the likelihood of a book showing up on genre bestseller lists. |
| Wooly Rupert |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 13:48:13
I'd love to pick it up this week, but my local B&N never gets new WotC fiction until a week or two later, at the earliest.
There's a Books-A-Million that's not nearly as convenient as B&N, but I've never liked that chain (not since I went into one and discovered I had a better selection of fantasy than they did! ), and only go there when I have no choice. |
| ElaineCunningham |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 13:29:11
Today is the street date for REALMS OF WAR. If you have not yet picked up a copy and intend to purchase the book, please consider doing so this week. Concentrated sales in the week of release are important if the book is to find a place on the genre bestseller lists (such as the Barnes & Noble and LOCUS lists reported monthly in LOCUS magazine.) Bestseller lists bring books to readers' attention and help drive sales.
Anthologies also are good advertisements for Forgotten Realms novels. I read several authors whose work I first encountered in an anthology. Books such as REALMS OF WAR provide a great way to spread the word about the Realms--and as a pleasant side effect, recruit more members to the Candlekeep forum. :) |
