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Mace Hammerhand Posted - 01 Jul 2006 : 21:21:20
for more drawings I can present to my players. I just recently got FR 12 Horde Campaign, and I really love the color plates inside. If WOTC were to create handouts that would show the typical clothing of specific regions and armor as well, so that a DM could show them to players without having to cover stats etc that would really really REALLY be a plus.

Maybe a WOTC designer sees this and picks up the idea!
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GothicDan Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 20:43:27
*Whimper.*
Mace Hammerhand Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 20:09:02
*smacks GD on the head*
GothicDan Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 19:23:33
I've never read the Empires trilogy.

Anyone, I just realized how off topic that was in general. Apologies.
Mace Hammerhand Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 19:10:43
quote:
Originally posted by GothicDan

I wish for them never to mention Kara-Tur, Maztica, etc. again.

If there was anything I wish WotC would have retconned, that's it.



And lose such grand stories as the Empires trilogy? Um...no
GothicDan Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 17:08:54
I wish for them never to mention Kara-Tur, Maztica, etc. again.

If there was anything I wish WotC would have retconned, that's it.
Mazrim_Taim Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 16:10:42
I really loved the art at the beginning of the deity trilogy in second edition. The drawings of what each Faith's clerics wear is one of the many reason that those three books are some of my favorites of all time as far as sourcebooks go.

I'd love to see more of the same, but along the lines of what other folk in the Realms wear. Basically what Mace wants.
Kalin Agrivar Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 14:52:55
I wish they would do one larger sourse book (A la Dragonlance Campaign Setting 3.0) for Maztica, Zakhara, Kara-Tur and the Hordelands. I don't expect a series of accessories, moduals or what ever, just one, thick book to introduce the settings, update the cannon and forge a stronger link of these continents to Faerun. The books could also be spun like the Oriental Adventures and be a "cultural" series of books. And who knows, they may even sell well.

I would also have a heart attack if someone ever did anything for the sub-continent of Malantra, mentioned briefly in Kara-Tur, which is actually the India-like region of Aber-Toril
Kajehase Posted - 12 Jul 2006 : 21:01:08
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

I can't draw or paint even if my life depended on it :(



Ditto. My stick figures are hardly recognizable.



Which still makes them better than mine.
Wooly Rupert Posted - 12 Jul 2006 : 20:12:03
quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

I can't draw or paint even if my life depended on it :(



Ditto. My stick figures are hardly recognizable.
Mace Hammerhand Posted - 12 Jul 2006 : 19:33:26
I can't draw or paint even if my life depended on it :(
Xysma Posted - 12 Jul 2006 : 19:02:17
quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

Thanks Xysma :)

I am looking for 'fashion' books so to speak, not individual faces. I'd like to show my players what the typical serf/comoner in any region wears...



Oops, I was just replying to Wooly's post, without fully reading your original. That's a great idea, maybe that's something we could work on here. Each region seems to have it's own flavor, most of which are generally agreed upon. For instance, the Moonshaes are generally considered to have a Celtic feel for the ffolk and more viking-like for the Northmen, Cormyr is usually thought of as Arthurian, Mulhorand-Egyptian, Calimahan-Arabian, etc. What if we tried to gather a general concensus of the scribes for each region, then did some real world research to come up with the appropriate clothing for each region. I'd definitely be willing to help if you are interested in doing this.
The Hooded One Posted - 12 Jul 2006 : 18:24:17
Steven, that was the "Osprey" line, after the British publisher that did dozens of "military uniform" books, starting with Napoleonic, all with paintings of warriors.
love,
THO
Dhomal Posted - 12 Jul 2006 : 04:38:39
quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

Thanks Xysma :)

I am looking for 'fashion' books so to speak, not individual faces. I'd like to show my players what the typical serf/comoner in any region wears...



Hello-

Mace - not sure how available this sort of thing will be for you - but -

One source of fashion looks from the real world - which may or may not help y ou - might be found in a 'costuming' section at a library/bookstore. We have it shelved in with drama/stagecraft books - and sometimes they can be quite complete!

Another possible source would be in the clip art section - as the Dover (*publisher name*) line has a lot of things that are not 'traditional' clip art - that may be of help.

Beyond that - try checking for any online/post-available Costuming catalogs, or Renaisance Faire, er - fare, that could prove useful - and have the one-up as being likely in color.

Dhomal
Mace Hammerhand Posted - 11 Jul 2006 : 21:59:27
Thanks Xysma :)

I am looking for 'fashion' books so to speak, not individual faces. I'd like to show my players what the typical serf/comoner in any region wears...
Xysma Posted - 11 Jul 2006 : 21:16:15
By the way, I love the fat elf in the sorcerers section.
Xysma Posted - 11 Jul 2006 : 21:14:52
PC Portraits now on the wizards website:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/arch/pc
Wooly Rupert Posted - 03 Jul 2006 : 03:44:29
quote:
Originally posted by Dhomal



Perhaps a semi-compromise would be to adopt Dungeon's idea of including headshop pictures of major NPCs along with the adventure. That way - over time - you could accumulate many illustrations, and use them at will. Even better if it was a little more than a headshot too.

Dhomal



They ran similar pics in Dragon, a while back. Just head shots, but all following a common them... I believe they later put these on the website somewhere, and I believe they also put them on the free CD that came with an issue of Dragon several years ago -- 'twas the sampler CD that also had an automatic dungeon generator on it, and some other stuff. I can't check the CD right now, though; I'm at my girlfriend's dad's house, and the CD is approximately 560 miles away, in my apartment.

The intent of the pics was, as I recall, for use on character sheets for people like me, who always fail their Drawing checks.
Dhomal Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 04:12:00
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

You might've seen more books like FR12....if FR12 had sold in any way more than minimal numbers.

The book's look and feel was based off an old miniatures book line that provided details for painting historical miniatures. I'm blanking on the series title, but the original suggestion came from old wargamers at TSR like Steve Winter.

Steven
Who was there at the time



Hello-

I believe that the line of books you are referring to is the 'Osprey' books. Man - there is some detail! I admit - I have little to no interest in the uniforms of the US mounted units used in the War of 1812. BUT _ if I did - These would be the books I would go to to get that information! They have been out for a long time. Actually - i just saw an ad for a new series they will be doing starting in September - where (IIRC) they tell some historical story A'la Graphic-Novel style.

In any case - certainly something like this would help a lot - but admitedly - would not probably be at the top of their list of products to produce.

Perhaps a semi-compromise would be to adopt Dungeon's idea of including headshop pictures of major NPCs along with the adventure. That way - over time - you could accumulate many illustrations, and use them at will. Even better if it was a little more than a headshot too.

Dhomal
Wooly Rupert Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 02:46:35
FRA had some color images, but most of them were covers of other TSR products.

Gold & Glory (FR15, I believe) had color plates, and I know Sea of Fallen Stars did, too. Most of them, though, I didn't care for the artwork. The artwork in those products was not all that hot, especially compared to some of the cover art TSR had, or the line drawings of Valerie Valusek. But, I've ranted about artwork enough times...
Kuje Posted - 02 Jul 2006 : 00:25:49
Well,

There's the pictures in the deity trilogy for the clergy outfits. The images, granted they are cover images, in Heroes/Villians Lorebooks. The images in Gold & Glory. Feels like I'm missing others....
Mace Hammerhand Posted - 01 Jul 2006 : 23:56:19
It looks a little like the Elite Series...books that deal with various military history stuff

I just mean picturebooks so to speak, not FR12 in its general outlook, I'm not interested in the wargaming aspect, just pretty pictures to show my players
Steven Schend Posted - 01 Jul 2006 : 22:54:02
quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand

for more drawings I can present to my players. I just recently got FR 12 Horde Campaign, and I really love the color plates inside. If WOTC were to create handouts that would show the typical clothing of specific regions and armor as well, so that a DM could show them to players without having to cover stats etc that would really really REALLY be a plus.

Maybe a WOTC designer sees this and picks up the idea!



You might've seen more books like FR12....if FR12 had sold in any way more than minimal numbers.

The book's look and feel was based off an old miniatures book line that provided details for painting historical miniatures. I'm blanking on the series title, but the original suggestion came from old wargamers at TSR like Steve Winter.

Steven
Who was there at the time

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