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SomeDude Posted - 22 Dec 2005 : 05:39:31
Thanks to all for any help in advance. I'm confused as to why RoFsays on page 82 that "Calishite Wizards and Sorcerers favor the school of evocation" while the FR campaign setting says on page 155 that "Calishites avoid evocation magic." Do I go with RoF because it's the more recent book or am I missing something somewhere? Please help, I am considering specializing my mage but this is making the choice of selected school/prohibited school very difficult.

On a side note, would I be proficient with the Jambiya(RoF) rather than the dagger?
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Bocklin Posted - 29 Dec 2005 : 08:55:34
Ok, follow up post on the "Jambyia for a Wizard" issue.

RoF strangely categorize the Jambyia as a martial weapon, but it remains weaker than a Kukri (RoF was a borderline product between 3.0 and 3.5, so the designer probably had in mind that the Kukri was still an Exotic Weapon).

With 1d3 slashing and 18-20/x2, I would feel comfortable enough as a DM to allow it as a simple weapon and to let a Calishite Wizard be proficient in it rather than in the dagger. It would be the only simple weapon with such a wide threat range, but the 1d3 is low enough to keep it balanced I think. And anyway, as a Wizard you will probably very rarely "confirm" a potential critical.

I hope your DM let you use it because it is a very flavory choice and is certainly not overpowered.

Bocklin
msatran Posted - 29 Dec 2005 : 04:27:05
Traditionally, what you and I consider 3.5 magic is BS as far as Calishites are traditionally concerned.

Consider the Bloodline of Fire feat strongly, but also remember the feats from Races of Faerun: Calishite Elementalist (Air), and Calishite Elementalist (Fire)

The two strongest traditions in Calimshan are air magic and fire magic. Do Calishites have a tendancy to be flashy and showy? Yes, they do, but it doesn't manifest in the way they cast spells so much as their choices of magical items.

Example: Your northern barbarian PC might pay for a pair of heavy fur boots. They cost 3 gold. But your CALISHITE will pay for a heavy pair of fur boots with laces that tie themselves and send a warning signal when the knots loosen.

Magic is to be used to better everyday life. THAT is the Calishite way.
Bocklin Posted - 28 Dec 2005 : 12:35:29
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Originally posted by SomeDude
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Any thoughts on the weapon?



I am not sure, I don't have the books handy, but IIRC the Jambyia is similar to the Kukri isn't it? (i.e. 1d4; 18-20/x2; slashing).

You'd have to check what the RoF says, but I would tend to make the Jambyia a martial weapon (like the Kukri) rather than a simple weapon. But what does RoF says?

If it was ranked as "simple weapon" by RoF and I were your DM, I'd allow you to substitute your proficiency with the dagger with that of the Jambyia.

After all, there is a good argument to say that you should be more comfortable using a nice, curved, Calimshite blade rather than one of these strange, unfine, block of metal that "those people from the north" call "dagger". But I'd make the simple Vs martial weapon element decisive.

Bocklin
SomeDude Posted - 27 Dec 2005 : 04:09:04
Thank you all for your input. I was leaning toward favoring evocation because of the mention of Genie blood giving sorcerers the magical abilities as well as the above mention feats but I was thinking someone might have more insite then I do. It seems I was right on both accounts. Thanks again.

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Any thoughts on the weapon?
Bocklin Posted - 26 Dec 2005 : 08:36:08
Another way to look at it: the FRCS sentence you mention is just a short flavor text that is contradicted in the same book by the fact that the Feat "Bloodline of Fire" (a tipically Calishite regional Feat; reprinted and revised in PGtF) gives a bonus on Evocation spells.

Additionally, RoF has another Feat "Genie Lore", that also gives you a bonus on certain Evocation spells, while the "Calishite Elementalist" (also from RoF) shows you a glimpse of what an important spellcasting tradition in Calimshan is.

So it seems that we have an overwhelming vote for "Calishites favor the Evocation school". ;-)

Bocklin
KnightErrantJR Posted - 26 Dec 2005 : 07:07:51
I would say that Calishites favor evocation, since bloodline of fire enchances fire spells, for example, and Calishites can be a bit . . . flashy. I agree, Calishites likely avoid summoning spells, since outsiders really did a number on the region in ages past.
TylerXKJ Posted - 26 Dec 2005 : 07:02:23
I got the wickedess case of deja-vu when i read your question. The FRCS thing is probably a slight error. To my knowledge calshites disdain conjuration magic, specifically the summoning and calling types, due to their rough history with genies and other conjured creatures. Or maybe they favored evocation because of it. Either way I think the whole point is calshites aren't fond of mages summoning genies into their midst.

I think you could get away with some acid arrows if the situation called for it still.

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